JF17 will be equal to F16 after upgrades

[JanWar]

This doesnt sound very good

 

[Thorough Pro]

How important is TWR in a machines war fighting capability? If the war meant racing against each other, then maybe, but it's more than that.

Not a chance in hell.

The JF17 is too lightweight and has poor TWR in its current design and engine capacity. Averaging just 0.95 TWR.
The small size means the radar the thunder carrys is smaller in size than the F16
Finally the thunder does not have the vast range of superior western weapons package.

The only chinease fighter that can go toe to toe will be the J10C

Average TWR of block 52 is 1.3 giving much better str agility and power.

DONT get me wrong adding AESA will improve Thunder BUT block 52 can still kick its arse due to limitations and smaller size and inferior engines and jammers and weapons

 

[CriticalThought]

I'm fraid not

Not with cheap chinease electronics
poor chinease radars
unproven weapons
and small size limiting power range and load

You clearly have no idea of the crucial link between size and power of the engines influencing the size and efficiency of radars be it MSA PESA OR AESA

The chinease build The JF17 the J10 & THE Flankers J11 & J16

They have inducted 300 J10 & over 200 Flankers with plans to build 200 more J11 & J16s

DO YOU KNOW how many JF17 they have inducted = zero

AND that ZERO will not change ..

WHY ..........because of the severe limitations I have mentioned..

Of course National pride is important and you bigging uop the JF17 is natural

But make no mistake its THE F16/52 that will danmage the Indians NOT the JF17 which all Indians hope you continue to induct and spend your very limited resources on

You guys have a death wish. We are happy to oblige.

BTW, the engine on JF-17 is almost exactly the same as on your Mig-29. So your Mig-29s are completely useless?

Block 3 or some later block is going to get an engine upgrade.

And finally, the Chinese have developed an air cooled AESA radar and so our entire fleet of JF-17s will be AESA equipped Insha Allah.

By the way, if Chinese stuff is so cheap and useless, then why r u guys so concerned? Forget the Rafales and fly your SU-30s ang M2Ks into Beijing and end it forever!!! But the reality is that you won't contemplate action against China until the Rafale is safely in India.

 

[Basel]

I'm fraid not

Not with cheap chinease electronics
poor chinease radars
unproven weapons
and small size limiting power range and load

You clearly have no idea of the crucial link between size and power of the engines influencing the size and efficiency of radars be it MSA PESA OR AESA

The chinease build The JF17 the J10 & THE Flankers J11 & J16

They have inducted 300 J10 & over 200 Flankers with plans to build 200 more J11 & J16s

DO YOU KNOW how many JF17 they have inducted = zero

AND that ZERO will not change ..

WHY ..........because of the severe limitations I have mentioned..

Of course National pride is important and you bigging uop the JF17 is natural

But make no mistake its THE F16/52 that will danmage the Indians NOT the JF17 which all Indians hope you continue to induct and spend your very limited resources on

Do you know what EW JFT have?? Chinese AESA radars are pitched against Western AESA radar so if you think PAF will compromise on low tech then you are mistaken, I hope all in Indian military underestimate JFT because it will be in favor of PAF, JFT was built to fill backbone aircraft category but now it is getting continuous updates to do what F-16 can not do in PAF, and that makes clear statement of it's capabilities.

 

[Nexus]

No it won't. 3rd generation aircrafts like JF-17 or LCA can't match F-16.

F-16, Su-27,30, M-2000 are game changers.

 

[Thorough Pro]

You just pissed 1.3 billion Indians by calling LCA as 3rd generation A/C.
For us generations mean nothing, we are focussed on capabilities and that's what matters.

No it won't. 3rd generation aircrafts like JF-17 or LCA can't match F-16.

F-16, Su-27,30, M-2000 are game changers.

 

[khanasifm]

No it won't. 3rd generation aircrafts like JF-17 or LCA can't match F-16.

F-16, Su-27,30, M-2000 are game changers.

Which one do you fly and how many hours do you have on the type ?

V/r

 

[Hamza913]

No it won't. No it won't. No it won't. No it won't. No it won't. No it won't.No it won't. No it won't. No it won't. No it won't.

And if it is going to be equal to F-16 please give PAF a shout. Cancel buying anymore F-16s as that is waste of money.

Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will. Yes it will.

The PAF has tried to get more F-16's because the newer models are very good and we can only make so many JF-17 's at a time. The newer F-16 models are also better than the current JF-17 models, but with block 3 that should change.

 

[Hamza913]

No it won't. 3rd generation aircrafts like JF-17 or LCA can't match F-16.

F-16, Su-27,30, M-2000 are game changers.

LCA and JF-17 are 4th gen.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Good news, if true.

It would be good to see the JF-17s as good as those F-16s.

 

[The Accountant]

No it won't. 3rd generation aircrafts like JF-17 or LCA can't match F-16.

F-16, Su-27,30, M-2000 are game changers.

Do you know the definition of 4th generation ? By which method are you calling thunders as 3rd generation ... With blk 3 thunder is going to entered in 4.5 generation ...

You can live in your dream world

 

[TopCat]

Pakistan should get rid of existing F-16 and sell them in black market..

 

[SHAH820]

No it won't. 3rd generation aircrafts like JF-17 or LCA can't match F-16.

F-16, Su-27,30, M-2000 are game changers.

LCA tejas can be a 3rd gen jet due to dozen of problem but JFT is an 4th gen and with block 3 it will going to counted as 4.5 th gen

 

[GURU DUTT]

LCA tejas can be a 3rd gen jet due to dozen of problem but JFT is an 4th gen and with block 3 it will going to counted as 4.5 th gen

1.LCA is a point defmce fighter not a front line fighter like F16s so please corect your facts

2. as of now unlike JF17 LCA is tested with Python5 VWR (true HOBS capabilty) and Derby & Derby ER BVR and DASH3 HMDS + ELTA 2032MMR (which 4.5 gen JF17 can only dream to have in its BLK3 version) while work is already underway to put a next gen GaA based AESA EL 2052 on it on MK1A with intigrated forward looking IRST & OBOGS and IFR probe along with 500-800 lesser weight and F16 Version V inspired light and wide landing gear along with 100 terabyte central DATABUS for entire EW+ECM+ internal Jammers & combined avionics suite

3. LCA as of now in 6-8Km flight altitutde and 3.5 tonne weapons load has a tested combat radius of 350-400Km which increases or decreases as per air temprature/moisture level and altitude and waepons load


4.LCA has as of now tested less than 1/3 RCS value as that of M2K in clean configuration due to its compact design and all carbon composite skin with genrous use of RAM coating on edges of its Y duct and to that its unique mayavee next gen EW+ECM + Jammer suite made in collabration with Israel

poisnt is all those who think LCA will be a pushover ar free to feel so at there own risk but still there is much more but lets forget all that point is LCA is last of worries for PAF so please dont bring ot oin comparrison with F16 bring Indian upgraded M2K or upgraded Mig29s .... SIR