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At a rally for conservative voters in Washington last week, Donald Trump vowed to stop the “attacks” on Judeo-Christian values. “We’re saying Merry Christmas again,” he told the crowd. The juxtaposition of the terms “Judeo-Christian” and “Merry Christmas” has raised questions for some Jewish Americans, who don’t typically center their values on the celebration of Christmas.

"Judeo-Christian" and "Merry Christmas" in the same breath. Gotta love it. https://t.co/DOs4dxHGHK(@wycovian) October 15, 2017

As a rabbi, I’ll
A) note that “Judeo-Christian” isn’t a thing &
B) ask Trump to defend my values by welcoming stranger & caring for poor. https://t.co/no8fVnGn4Q

— Rav Danya Ruttenberg (@TheRaDR) October 16, 2017

The term Judeo-Christian has a long and loaded history in the US. Once used in defense of multiculturalism, some fear its new meaning, propagated by the far right, is meant to exclude Muslims and diminish the status of the Jewish community.

The origins of “Judeo-Christian”
The term “Judeo-Christian” emerged and gained cultural currency during World War II, says Douglas Hartmann, a sociology professor at the University of Minnesota, who analyzed the changing uses and meanings of the term in a 2005 paper. Scholars and campaigners of that era used to term to highlight the shared values between Christians and Jewish Americans, as liberal Jewish and Christian leaders sought to condemn the Nazi ideology growing in Europe and fascist sympathizers in the US, who mobilized around Christian identity. It was “a way to expand the parameters of inclusion for American citizenship and national identity,” Hartmann says. The US was a Christian nation, these liberal leaders argued, but it was also a nation for Jews and other religious minorities who were the bedrock of US democracy.

That definition began eroding by the 1980s, when Christian conservatives began narrowing their terms of morality to marriage, traditional gender roles, and law and order. At the same time, they countered civil rights movements that called for gender, racial, and sexual equality. By the 1990s, political conservatives were most likely to positively use the term Judeo-Christian, while liberals were far more likely to be critical of the term, according to Hartmann.

As Christian conservatives have moved further to the right, so has the term Judeo-Christian. Over the past decade, “it’s not only about the culture and morality, but is an appeal to a white dominant audience,” Hartmann explains. 9/11 turned the experiment of America’s core culture into a question of what (and who) put it in jeopardy, specifically Muslim Americans.

Judeo-Christian values” are at the heart of Steve Bannon’s ideology (the Trump administration’s former chief strategist, now back at the helm of Breitbart News). Bannon, who defines Judeo-Christian values in both moral and tacitly racial terms, believes exalting them will restore America’s economy and foster social cohesion.

Trump supporters “are driven—not by material, economic interests—so much as a sense of their culture, their visions of the traditional core and culture of America is under threat; by immigrants, or racial minorities, or people of different religious beliefs,” Hartmann says.

In the US, overt appeals to white race are still somewhat taboo. But by using the term “Judeo-Christian values,” Trump’s message is: “we’re just trying to protect white culture,” Hartmann says.

https://qz.com/1104073/jewish-ameri...-term-judeo-christian-thanks-to-donald-trump/
 
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as an outsider I think the term “Judeo-Christian” is better fitted than “Protestant” to describe American values of today... any thoughts?
 
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"Judeo-Christian" and "Merry Christmas" in the same breath. Gotta love it. https://t.co/DOs4dxHGHK(@wycovian) October 15, 2017

Honestly, if we took everything this clown says to heart, we'd have died of a heart attack a year and a half ago.
The whole idea behind this is simply to bring back the popularity of wishing someone a "Merry Christmas," instead of the orientation that the well-wishing saying has taken in the past 30-odd years which is "Happy Holidays." The reason for the latter was that with the US' melting pot of races and religious affiliations, you never know who you might be wishing a Merry Christmas to and so the former was a safer bet.

The idea behind including a "Judeo" alliance is simply a political strategy to maintain the American-Jewish support and (as well as his extended family's - Kuschners) and nothing more. The speech was crafted for him by someone who made sure it included that, for that reason.

As Christian conservatives have moved further to the right, so has the term Judeo-Christian. Over the past decade, “it’s not only about the culture and morality, but is an appeal to a white dominant audience,” Hartmann explains. 9/11 turned the experiment of America’s core culture into a question of what (and who) put it in jeopardy, specifically Muslim Americans.

Mmmm.....nah. As a Muslim American, I don't think there is much veracity to this. It had nothing to do with Muslim Americans, but rather the simplicity of political correctness. Just as the clown in chief said himself in that clip.
 
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Hmm article from October 17, 2017...searching google history for stories again eh?

I think this has more to do with liberal secularists making it politically incorrect to mention religion in anything. Certainly not a bad road to go down but it becomes such a focus it irks some religious people.
 
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At a rally for conservative voters in Washington last week, Donald Trump vowed to stop the “attacks” on Judeo-Christian values. “We’re saying Merry Christmas again,” he told the crowd. The juxtaposition of the terms “Judeo-Christian” and “Merry Christmas” has raised questions for some Jewish Americans, who don’t typically center their values on the celebration of Christmas.

"Judeo-Christian" and "Merry Christmas" in the same breath. Gotta love it. https://t.co/DOs4dxHGHK(@wycovian) October 15, 2017

As a rabbi, I’ll
A) note that “Judeo-Christian” isn’t a thing &
B) ask Trump to defend my values by welcoming stranger & caring for poor. https://t.co/no8fVnGn4Q

— Rav Danya Ruttenberg (@TheRaDR) October 16, 2017

The term Judeo-Christian has a long and loaded history in the US. Once used in defense of multiculturalism, some fear its new meaning, propagated by the far right, is meant to exclude Muslims and diminish the status of the Jewish community.

The origins of “Judeo-Christian”
The term “Judeo-Christian” emerged and gained cultural currency during World War II, says Douglas Hartmann, a sociology professor at the University of Minnesota, who analyzed the changing uses and meanings of the term in a 2005 paper. Scholars and campaigners of that era used to term to highlight the shared values between Christians and Jewish Americans, as liberal Jewish and Christian leaders sought to condemn the Nazi ideology growing in Europe and fascist sympathizers in the US, who mobilized around Christian identity. It was “a way to expand the parameters of inclusion for American citizenship and national identity,” Hartmann says. The US was a Christian nation, these liberal leaders argued, but it was also a nation for Jews and other religious minorities who were the bedrock of US democracy.

That definition began eroding by the 1980s, when Christian conservatives began narrowing their terms of morality to marriage, traditional gender roles, and law and order. At the same time, they countered civil rights movements that called for gender, racial, and sexual equality. By the 1990s, political conservatives were most likely to positively use the term Judeo-Christian, while liberals were far more likely to be critical of the term, according to Hartmann.

As Christian conservatives have moved further to the right, so has the term Judeo-Christian. Over the past decade, “it’s not only about the culture and morality, but is an appeal to a white dominant audience,” Hartmann explains. 9/11 turned the experiment of America’s core culture into a question of what (and who) put it in jeopardy, specifically Muslim Americans.

Judeo-Christian values” are at the heart of Steve Bannon’s ideology (the Trump administration’s former chief strategist, now back at the helm of Breitbart News). Bannon, who defines Judeo-Christian values in both moral and tacitly racial terms, believes exalting them will restore America’s economy and foster social cohesion.

Trump supporters “are driven—not by material, economic interests—so much as a sense of their culture, their visions of the traditional core and culture of America is under threat; by immigrants, or racial minorities, or people of different religious beliefs,” Hartmann says.

In the US, overt appeals to white race are still somewhat taboo. But by using the term “Judeo-Christian values,” Trump’s message is: “we’re just trying to protect white culture,” Hartmann says.

https://qz.com/1104073/jewish-ameri...-term-judeo-christian-thanks-to-donald-trump/
There is no such thing as Judeo -Christian.

The closest Judeo Christian are the Abysinian church which adhere to the tenants of the old testament unlike the rest e.g. circumcision/not eating pork. This notion was concoted by the evangelists and lunatics who want to bring the orthodox jews into the christian faith so that they can hasten the coming of the messiah.
 
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There is no such thing as Judeo -Christian.

The closest Judeo Christian are the Abysinian church which adhere to the tenants of the old testament unlike the rest e.g. circumcision/not eating pork. This notion was concoted by the evangelists and lunatics who want to bring the orthodox jews into the christian faith so that they can hasten the coming of the messiah.

What the??

Read this please..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian
 
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When alt. Right uses the term judeo Christian they are using it in a secular sense... as many profess white supremacy and hence are retorting to older times.... more like roman times... they accept jews and Christians in cultural sense... and as part of a civilization... since many have forsaken any religion this is merely their way way of accepting values that include these two religions... The main call of action is for the future where they expect religion especially these two to continue playing a lesser role over time... so, in a way these terms will be abrogated except for its cultural nuance ... the alt. Right deals in a much greater spectrum... where they'd accept gays and all other formerly liberal pecking points and incorporate them in their larger political narrative.
 
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Yes I read it. But I am stating the obvious - Abysinnia christianity is the continuation of the judaism faith which they were adherant to previously for them it is not a segregation of the past but rather a continuation. Just like Islam says it is the continuation of the abrahamic faith.
But the verbiage used in North America for Judeo-christian is a different connotation and god help us all from those lunatics.
 
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Lets talk real here

Jews , stated they are Chosen one , above all "races". Their priests stated they are more worthy then others
When Mr. Jesus came , they did not appreciate his alternative views
Jews took pride in their ancient arts / treasures of war / mystical powers but they lost to Romans
Clear divide here
  • Jews , views Jesus as a imposter
  • Their constant banishment from country to country was due to their actions committed on Jesus and also the fact they openly stated they were superior beings vs other races which resulted in a massive backlash


Jews and Christians are two different identities and the most prominent one being that Jews the real ones don't recognize Mr Jesus
 
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If some folks get hung up on it, how about "Abrahamic"? That's even brings Islam into the fold :cheers:
 
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