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An Indian Army engineer, who was posted in Siachen and Kargil, has worked towards developing a jet pack—a device that would allow soldiers to fly using backpack rockets. According to the designers, the device could possibly save Army personnel from disasters like the recent avalanche at Siachen.

According to Major Lakshyajeet Singh Chauhan, who is serving the Electronics and Mechanical Engineers (EME) wing of the Indian Army for nine years, the jetpack can help soldiers skip climbing treacherous mountain terrains, and flee avalanches or landslides. It can also be used in counter insurgency, recovery and security operations, even at very high altitudes, according to the former M Tech student at IIT-Madras. Recently, the project has also been proposed to be taken up under the ‘Imprint India’ initiative supported by the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD).

Speaking to The Sunday Standard, Chauhan pointed out that in general avalanche and crevice prone zones are 0.7 to 1 km in length. Using these jet packs, soldiers can cross these areas in a matter of seconds, as the optimum travelling speed is 60 km per hour or 17 metres per second.

“During the Kargil war, maximum casualties were reported when the Indian Army tried to climb the final 300-500 metres of the peak. Since the visibility is poor, with these devices, the soldiers could have jumped off to a safer location,” he said. The device also has immense potential in multi-terrain hopping. While crossing mountains, two soldiers wearing this can fly in a matter of few seconds and build a rope way between cliffs.

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This is a good idea.. But i would rather look at one small aspect.. Which direction jet exhaust is.. Of course direction of force indicates it has to point downwards... Now imagine the soldier jumping over a avalanche zone.. the question to ask is how much high above the surface.. Bcz that single factor may determine if loose surface may get triggered and a whole avalanche starting .. by the strong exhaust direction..

Anyway the USA bell rocket belt, some information is here Bell Rocket Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Source: Bell Rocket Belt experimental one-man back-pack flying system

Skytamer carries some more details...

..Can they have offensive use also..??
Not sure about offensive capabilities but some other uses includes amphibious landings, recon, forest fires and rescues..
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See for example
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Bell Rocket Belt experimental one-man back-pack flying system

This shows max altitude of 18m for Bell and 30 m for RB2000

Now thrust is 1.33Kn to 1.42 Kn..

so this aspect should be researched to find whats the safe minimum height for such thrust without increasing the risk of a trigger for avalanche..

@Abingdonboy @MilSpec @anant_s @Vauban @Taygibay
What you feel about this...

Or we can have directional nozzle like VTOL type for jet exhausts?
 
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Why cantb we use ground penetraring radar?
 
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This is a good idea.. But i would rather look at one small aspect.. Which direction jet exhaust is.. Of course direction of force indicates it has to point downwards... Now imagine the soldier jumping over a avalanche zone.. the question to ask is how much high above the surface.. Bcz that single factor may determine if loose surface may get triggered and a whole avalanche starting .. by the strong exhaust direction..

Anyway the USA bell rocket belt, some information is here Bell Rocket Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
View attachment 293784

Rocket_Belt_general_view.png

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Source: Bell Rocket Belt experimental one-man back-pack flying system

Skytamer carries some more details...


Not sure about offensive capabilities but some other uses includes amphibious landings, recon, forest fires and rescues..
jet_belt_uses_555pxl.jpg


See for example
View attachment 293787
Bell Rocket Belt experimental one-man back-pack flying system

This shows max altitude of 18m for Bell and 30 m for RB2000

Now thrust is 1.33Kn to 1.42 Kn..

so this aspect should be researched to find whats the safe minimum height for such thrust without increasing the risk of a trigger for avalanche..

@Abingdonboy @MilSpec @anant_s @Vauban @Taygibay
What you feel about this...

Or we can have directional nozzle like VTOL type for jet exhausts?

Would be a Skeet shooting exercise for the enemy, Instead I think it's time to start developing our own powered exoskeleton and autonomous load carriers.
 
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Would be a Skeet shooting exercise for the enemy, Instead I think it's time to start developing our own powered exoskeleton and autonomous load carriers.

May be something like this on the lines of DARPA Web Warrior? It is basically a mesh like powered suit which assists movement over tough terrains along with a load of 100 lbs with the help of actuators placed in joints. The best part? Can be worn under uniform and battery draw is just 100 W

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What is the timeframe of avalanche hitting us in siachen?

Can we rescue our men in that time frame?

Whats is point temperature in siachen?

Can electronics surivive that temperature?

Do we have capability to manufacture that kinda of electronics in research lab of iisc?

If above questions have satisfactory answers then why cant we set up a wireless sensory network in siachen which can give us prediction of avalanche and we can rescue our men.

And even if our men geta caught into avalanche can we make use of ground penetrating radar to locate them.
 
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What is the timeframe of avalanche hitting us in siachen?

Can we rescue our men in that time frame?

Whats is point temperature in siachen?

Can electronics surivive that temperature?

Do we have capability to manufacture that kinda of electronics in research lab of iisc?

If above questions have satisfactory answers then why cant we set up a wireless sensory network in siachen which can give us prediction of avalanche and we can rescue our men.

And even if our men geta caught into avalanche can we make use of ground penetrating radar to locate them.
I am not sure sure if IA uses avalance float packs.that would be of some help.
 
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This is a good idea.. But i would rather look at one small aspect.. Which direction jet exhaust is.. Of course direction of force indicates it has to point downwards... Now imagine the soldier jumping over a avalanche zone.. the question to ask is how much high above the surface.. Bcz that single factor may determine if loose surface may get triggered and a whole avalanche starting .. by the strong exhaust direction..

Anyway the USA bell rocket belt, some information is here Bell Rocket Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
View attachment 293784

Rocket_Belt_general_view.png

View attachment 293786

Source: Bell Rocket Belt experimental one-man back-pack flying system

Skytamer carries some more details...


Not sure about offensive capabilities but some other uses includes amphibious landings, recon, forest fires and rescues..
jet_belt_uses_555pxl.jpg


See for example
View attachment 293787
Bell Rocket Belt experimental one-man back-pack flying system

This shows max altitude of 18m for Bell and 30 m for RB2000

Now thrust is 1.33Kn to 1.42 Kn..

so this aspect should be researched to find whats the safe minimum height for such thrust without increasing the risk of a trigger for avalanche..

@Abingdonboy @MilSpec @anant_s @Vauban @Taygibay
What you feel about this...

Or we can have directional nozzle like VTOL type for jet exhausts?
It's never going to be viable, another unrealistic pipe dream project IMO.
Why cantb we use ground penetraring radar?

Why do you think they aren't?
 
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Not worth it! Check the max load. You need weapons and equipment pack on that flying soldier.
A collective "jetpack" for whole units already exists : it's called a helicopter!

:p: Tay.

Gyrocopter, why not small Zeplin
 
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