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By Manoj Joshi

In the past week, the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore and the Asia-Pacific Roundtable in Kuala Lumpur have focused on the future geopolitics of the Asia Pacific.

Not surprisingly, the key discussions have centered on the rising tensions between Asia’s has-been power, Japan, and rising power China. This is a rivalry poisoned by history, and it is threatening the peace of a region which is the engine of the world’s economic growth.

In the past five years, China has been flexing its muscles in the South and East China Seas raising the hackles of its neighbours. Not only is Beijing undertaking a massive military build up, but the Communist Party of China under the leadership, of Xi Jinping, is taking an active role in promoting a proactive national security posture.

A consequence of this has been the US decision to ‘rebalance’ itself towards Asia to reassure key allies like South Korea, Japan and the Philippines. But perhaps more dramatic, and in its own way worrisome, has been the ‘return’ of Japan to the high-stakes table.

This has been evident in the platform of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the foundations of whose policy is an economic revival of Japan based on the ‘three arrows’ of Abenomics: A bold monetary policy with a view of easing monetary conditions to encourage an inflation rate of 2 per cent; a flexible fiscal policy which includes an economic stimulus package and fiscal consolidation; and finally a growth strategy dependent on promoting private investment, targeting new markets and working out new trade agreements, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Equally significant has been Japan’s new diplomacy which has sought to, first and foremost, strengthen the US-Japan alliance. A subset of this is the push to work out a modus vivendi with South Korea which retains historical suspicions of Japan.

The second pillar of Japanese diplomacy involves promoting links with the ASEAN, Australia and India. The third is to deepen ties with EU and Russia and finally, take a more active role in global issues such as climate change, millennium development goals etc.

But the most dramatic changes are likely to show up in Tokyo’s security policy, which is based on deep reform of its security infrastructure. In December 2013 Japan set up a National Security Council and within weeks, came up with a new National Security Strategy which sees Japan as a ‘proactive contributor to peace based on the principle of international cooperation’.

This means redefining what self-defence is all about and enhancing the Japanese contribution to it, through stronger ties with the US, strengthening the Japanese military and sharpening its technological edge. The Abe government wants to re-interpret self-defence to mean the ability of Japanese forces to come to the aid of allies, even if Japan itself is not attacked. This is opposed by China, South Korea and by some in Japan.

They are afraid that it could put Japan back on the path of militarisation that led to the catastrophe of World War II. India has been the beneficiary of China-Japan tensions. Prior to the anti-Japanese demonstrations in China in 2005, Tokyo largely ignored New Delhi. China was the foremost recipient of Japanese Overseas Development Assistance (ODA) in the 1980 and 1990s. By 2000, Japan had provided China with some $25 billion in soft loans and grants which went a long way in developing China’s infrastructure. In the 1958-2000 period, Japan’s ODA to India was around $7 billion.

Since then, India has become its largest recipient for successive years and since 2000, it has got some $30 billion worth of ODA. In addition, Japan’s private sector, long leery of India has begun hedging its Chinese bets by investing in India. Among the Japanese projects are long-range ones like the Delhi-Mumbai freight corridor along which there are plans to build new cities and economic zones.

India could also benefit from Tokyo’s shifting stance on exports relating to defence equipment. In April, Japan tweaked its export policy by coming up with a new set of ‘Three Principles’ on defence equipment transfer. But, already, it has offered New Delhi the ShinMaywa US 2 amphibian aircraft for use by the Coast Guard and other non-military agencies.

The rise, if you want to call it that, of another Asian power on the flanks of China, one which also has difficulties with Beijing, is to India’s advantage. New Delhi is not unaware of the geopolitical benefits. For this reason, Abe was the chief guest at the Republic Day parade this year. India and Japan began bilateral naval exercises in 2012, and during the Abe visit, it was announced that Japan would join this year’s Malabar Exercise involving India and the US again.

In his speech at the Shangri-La dialogue, Abe had hailed Modi’s election as Prime Minister and said that when the Indian PM visited Japan, the two sides would confirm that “Japan-India cooperation, as well as trilateral cooperation including our two countries, will make the ‘confluence of the two seas’, that is the Pacific and Indian Oceans, peaceful and more prosperous.” These are public declarations, deliberately couched in generalities, but containing within a host of geopolitical possibilities.



REFERENCE: EURASIA REVIEW
 
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No real tension between Japan and China just Chinese government using made up things to avoid the real tension between India and China for you know India now occupying vast land of China southwestward.
Or we can see no tension for Chinese government is ready


to give up our territory.
 
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No real tension between Japan and China just Chinese government using made up things to avoid the real tension between India and China for you know India now occupying vast land of China southwestward.

Stop spreading ur distorted version,the area that u say we 'occupy' are buddhists who are not amused by the state of tibetan culture across the border.They speak hindi and are among most patriotic indian communities.There are no dissidents or secession movements in arunachal pradesh.
 
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Stop spreading ur distorted version,the area that u say we 'occupy' are buddhists who are not amused by the state of tibetan culture across the border.They speak hindi and are among most patriotic indian communities.There are no dissidents or secession movements in arunachal pradesh.
Why do you mention the Tibetan culture and what the locals speak which have nothing to do with our land sovereignty.
 
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No real tension between Japan and China just Chinese government using made up things to avoid the real tension between India and China for you know India now occupying vast land of China southwestward.
Or we can see no tension for Chinese government is ready to give up our territory.

See, if your government tells you that, it is rather unfortunate.

We certainly are not 'occupied', we are Indians by choice. Neither your dispute of my state Sikkim nor our neighbouring state Arunachal has anything but imperialistic designs. Neither of our states were 'occupied'. We voluntarily joined and Arunachal was NEFA, always a part of India.

At no levels are we ready to give up our own people and state to someone else. No matter what the cost is.

Let us re-look at how we can develop our ties with more maturity, rather than nationalistic jingoism.

This is not some donation we are talking about.

So please, be realistic.
 
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See, if your government tells you that, it is rather unfortunate.

We certainly are not 'occupied', we are Indians by choice. Neither your dispute of my state Sikkim nor our neighbouring state Arunachal has anything but imperialistic designs. Neither of our states were 'occupied'. We voluntarily joined and Arunachal was NEFA, always a part of India.

At no levels are we ready to give up our own people and state to someone else. No matter what the cost is.

Let us re-look at how we can develop our ties with more maturity, rather than nationalistic jingoism.

This is not some donation we are talking about.

So please, be realistic.
Our government tells us things the opposite of what I said.

And enemies no need to tell each other things the opposite.
 
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Our government tells us things the opposite of what I said.

And enemies no need to tell each other things the opposite.

Then you must understand; this is coming from someone who is from the region that you say is disputed. There is another member here who will clear your doubt @Kesang.

Perhaps that will convince you.
 
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Then you must understand; this is coming from someone who is from the region that you say is disputed. There is another member here who will clear your doubt @Kesang.

Perhaps that will convince you.

I think that there is any need of convincing that guy @Tractor because even other Chinese members consider him bit insane.
 
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Arunachal is purely Indian coz the people feel Indian. Our MoS HMO is from Arunachal and speaks good Hindi. So the language thing is not true. There is no so called movement for freedom in Arunachal. Ever thot why?
 
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I think that there is any need of convincing that guy @Tractor because even other Chinese members consider him bit insane.
What are you suddenly jump out to say something?You are from Arunachal and why you choose your current avatar like that?
 
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By Manoj Joshi

In the past week, the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore and the Asia-Pacific Roundtable in Kuala Lumpur have focused on the future geopolitics of the Asia Pacific.

Not surprisingly, the key discussions have centered on the rising tensions between Asia’s has-been power, Japan, and rising power China. This is a rivalry poisoned by history, and it is threatening the peace of a region which is the engine of the world’s economic growth.

In the past five years, China has been flexing its muscles in the South and East China Seas raising the hackles of its neighbours. Not only is Beijing undertaking a massive military build up, but the Communist Party of China under the leadership, of Xi Jinping, is taking an active role in promoting a proactive national security posture.

A consequence of this has been the US decision to ‘rebalance’ itself towards Asia to reassure key allies like South Korea, Japan and the Philippines. But perhaps more dramatic, and in its own way worrisome, has been the ‘return’ of Japan to the high-stakes table.

This has been evident in the platform of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the foundations of whose policy is an economic revival of Japan based on the ‘three arrows’ of Abenomics: A bold monetary policy with a view of easing monetary conditions to encourage an inflation rate of 2 per cent; a flexible fiscal policy which includes an economic stimulus package and fiscal consolidation; and finally a growth strategy dependent on promoting private investment, targeting new markets and working out new trade agreements, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Equally significant has been Japan’s new diplomacy which has sought to, first and foremost, strengthen the US-Japan alliance. A subset of this is the push to work out a modus vivendi with South Korea which retains historical suspicions of Japan.

The second pillar of Japanese diplomacy involves promoting links with the ASEAN, Australia and India. The third is to deepen ties with EU and Russia and finally, take a more active role in global issues such as climate change, millennium development goals etc.

But the most dramatic changes are likely to show up in Tokyo’s security policy, which is based on deep reform of its security infrastructure. In December 2013 Japan set up a National Security Council and within weeks, came up with a new National Security Strategy which sees Japan as a ‘proactive contributor to peace based on the principle of international cooperation’.

This means redefining what self-defence is all about and enhancing the Japanese contribution to it, through stronger ties with the US, strengthening the Japanese military and sharpening its technological edge. The Abe government wants to re-interpret self-defence to mean the ability of Japanese forces to come to the aid of allies, even if Japan itself is not attacked. This is opposed by China, South Korea and by some in Japan.

They are afraid that it could put Japan back on the path of militarisation that led to the catastrophe of World War II. India has been the beneficiary of China-Japan tensions. Prior to the anti-Japanese demonstrations in China in 2005, Tokyo largely ignored New Delhi. China was the foremost recipient of Japanese Overseas Development Assistance (ODA) in the 1980 and 1990s. By 2000, Japan had provided China with some $25 billion in soft loans and grants which went a long way in developing China’s infrastructure. In the 1958-2000 period, Japan’s ODA to India was around $7 billion.

Since then, India has become its largest recipient for successive years and since 2000, it has got some $30 billion worth of ODA. In addition, Japan’s private sector, long leery of India has begun hedging its Chinese bets by investing in India. Among the Japanese projects are long-range ones like the Delhi-Mumbai freight corridor along which there are plans to build new cities and economic zones.

India could also benefit from Tokyo’s shifting stance on exports relating to defence equipment. In April, Japan tweaked its export policy by coming up with a new set of ‘Three Principles’ on defence equipment transfer. But, already, it has offered New Delhi the ShinMaywa US 2 amphibian aircraft for use by the Coast Guard and other non-military agencies.

The rise, if you want to call it that, of another Asian power on the flanks of China, one which also has difficulties with Beijing, is to India’s advantage. New Delhi is not unaware of the geopolitical benefits. For this reason, Abe was the chief guest at the Republic Day parade this year. India and Japan began bilateral naval exercises in 2012, and during the Abe visit, it was announced that Japan would join this year’s Malabar Exercise involving India and the US again.

In his speech at the Shangri-La dialogue, Abe had hailed Modi’s election as Prime Minister and said that when the Indian PM visited Japan, the two sides would confirm that “Japan-India cooperation, as well as trilateral cooperation including our two countries, will make the ‘confluence of the two seas’, that is the Pacific and Indian Oceans, peaceful and more prosperous.” These are public declarations, deliberately couched in generalities, but containing within a host of geopolitical possibilities.



REFERENCE: EURASIA REVIEW



Japan needs to move out of shadows of WW II .

unfortunately I get a feeling that Japanese establishment has willfully allowed itself to be tethered to shame of WWII .

while Germany has moved on , Japan seems to be too sorry and ashamed for its role in WWII and it continues to remain apologetic even after 6 decades.

Country like China continue to target and blame Japan for WW II excesses . and wish to pay back Japan to avenge its humiliation .

Japan needs to shrug off baggage of WW II as it is affecting its defense preparedness .
 
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See, if your government tells you that, it is rather unfortunate.

We certainly are not 'occupied', we are Indians by choice. Neither your dispute of my state Sikkim nor our neighbouring state Arunachal has anything but imperialistic designs. Neither of our states were 'occupied'. We voluntarily joined and Arunachal was NEFA, always a part of India.

At no levels are we ready to give up our own people and state to someone else. No matter what the cost is.

Let us re-look at how we can develop our ties with more maturity, rather than nationalistic jingoism.

This is not some donation we are talking about.

So please, be realistic.

Our Government tells us nothing. Get over yourself, most Chinese don't even know there is a dispute with India, as far as we are concerned that part of history ended with 62. Our victory. End of Story. If there are tensions here and there it's more or less fabricated, or at least misunderstood.

China has no designs on India, it is India that doesn't want to negotiate, or at least hesitant.


Japan needs to move out of shadows of WW II .

unfortunately I get a feeling that Japanese establishment has willfully allowed itself to be tethered to shame of WWII .

while Germany has moved on , Japan seems to be too sorry and ashamed for its role in WWII and it continues to remain apologetic even after 6 decades.

Country like China continue to target and blame Japan for WW II excesses . and wish to pay back Japan to avenge its humiliation .

Japan needs to shrug off baggage of WW II as it is affecting its defense preparedness .

Whether Japan has moved on or not is irrelevant. If you consider China to not be a rational actor in this what of South Korea? A developed nation.

As to avenge the humiliation, yea that's not true, why that is not true, you can go find out by yourself. But there's definitive proof that revenge is not on the menu.




Now as to this story, Japan isn't rising, it's the same. It's just diverting cash from China to India. If you really think about it, the political effect is minimal, China has money now, and we want to keep things in house, India is still in its early stages, obviously Japanese money would go there, as are Chinese money.

Japan won't get much stronger than this, at best they can increase their budget as a percentage of GDP. they need about double the percentage to spent the exact same amount as us, and in 10 years three times as much in terms of percentage.

India won't even need an ally, as I said there is no possible war here, what do you need an ally for.
 
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@Tractor

first of all,we don't even have any "Sino-Indian Border" to start with.but even if we think Tibet as part of China,which it is for now,there is no dispute among us that can't be solved through dialogue.

@Genesis
about partner/ally,Japan is assisting in our development,they invested massively in infra and industry.they're not assisting us for "Arms Build Up" or something,nor we're forming any regional grouping.Indo-Japan relationship is strictly bilateral and not aimed towards any country.

but I feel Indo-Japan cooperation has a lot of possibility,including defence related if Japan shreds its pacifist constitution and embrace a proactive one.
 
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Whether Japan has moved on or not is irrelevant. If you consider China to not be a rational actor in this what of South Korea? A developed nation.

As to avenge the humiliation, yea that's not true, why that is not true, you can go find out by yourself. But there's definitive proof that revenge is not on the menu.




Now as to this story, Japan isn't rising, it's the same. It's just diverting cash from China to India. If you really think about it, the political effect is minimal, China has money now, and we want to keep things in house, India is still in its early stages, obviously Japanese money would go there, as are Chinese money.

Japan won't get much stronger than this, at best they can increase their budget as a percentage of GDP. they need about double the percentage to spent the exact same amount as us, and in 10 years three times as much in terms of percentage.

India won't even need an ally, as I said there is no possible war here, what do you need an ally for.


Did I say that Japan is rising ?
Did I say that India needs ally ?


whether Japan has moved or not it's relevant ..because if it let itself bogged down by shame of WW II excesses ...it will not be able to stand up against its aggressive neighbor like China .


China may have money now . But China is still a developing nation while Japan is already a developed nation hoping to rejuvenate its sagging economy .
You may not be enthused to avenge humiliation on Nanjing ...but I am sure many Chinese do !


It will still take many years for China to reach Japanese standards of living ....just as it will take many decades for India .

For country of Japan's size and population to be one of the Top 5 economies in the world is in feat in itself . Let us not belittle that out of sheer chauvinism & so let us not the lose the perspective as to who stands where today .


whether Japan will get stronger than that it is today or not ..only time will tell .

For now Mr Abe is doing his best to kick start Japanese economy ...
 
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Did I say that Japan is rising ?
Did I say that India needs ally ?


whether Japan has moved or not it's relevant ..because if it let itself bogged down by shame of WW II excesses ...it will not be able to stand up against its aggressive neighbor like China .


China may have money now . But China is still a developing nation while Japan is already a developed nation hoping to rejuvenate its sagging economy .
You may not be enthused to avenge humiliation on Nanjing ...but I am sure many Chinese do !


It will still take many years for China to reach Japanese standards of living ....just as it will take many decades for India .

For country of Japan's size and population to be one of the Top 5 economies in the world is in feat in itself . Let us not belittle that out of sheer chauvinism & so let us not the lose the perspective as to who stands where today .


whether Japan will get stronger than that it is today or not ..only time will tell .

For now Mr Abe is doing his best to kick start Japanese economy ...

The Japan rising and ally thing was clearly targeted at the article not you. You can see by the first sentence and the space in between.

Japan is visiting war criminals, actual war criminals judged by the US.

For China, the commander in chief of Japanese occupying forces was made a high level advisor in the nationalist armies, and some of the Japanese army was kept by the Nationalists as their own.

Until about the 80s China and Japan was on very good terms, in fact, a lot of Chinese were shocked to learn Japan did those things, as the official position of the Chinese government had been Japan is a good friend.

Even today, the relationship is actually quite good, what's bad about this relationship is Japan's refusal to see that we are twice their economy and soon to be three times. That's the problem. The war is over, we got over it.


Japanese standard of living is better, but not as much as you think because of the per capita difference, a lot of Chinese are actually living quite well compared to their Japanese counter parts. Not talking the rich.

The average chinese, I say about 600-800 million have their own homes of decent sizes, and some quite huge in the lower end of this scale ironically, have cars, insurances, good wage, low living cost, and also ironically low social pressure.

For all the talk of slave labor, Chinese actually don't work that hard, lol. They probably work long hours, but my aunts met with me for lunch during work hours, without so much as a note. Same applies to other workers. The ethics is quite not great.


Japan is 10th on the population scale btw, all but the US is a developing nation, so not a great accomplishment being third in GDP. They may become fourth nominally after India in about a decade or so?
 
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