J-31 possibly being tested & evaluated in Pakistan

[Ultima Thule]

jF-17 blk 3 will be a match to F-16 blk-52.

But Better than blk-52 in the term of Avionics @BATMAN

 

[帅的一匹]

If PAF buys J31 Azam is dead or delayed.
jF-17 blk 3 will be a match to F-16 blk-52.
It's best for PAF to stick with jF-17 blk3 until Azam concludes.

Turkey buy 100 F35, and TFX is still alive.

How about partnering up with another country? Any of the major GCC countries come to mind.

And if the Saudis don't agree, you can threaten to take the project to the Iranians.



The CAC and SAC are major rivals.

A better design would be a single engine design based on the J-20's new engine, which CAC can develop rather quickly. If Project Azm is an independent Pakistani design, then these two jets will complement each other rather than compete.



This project will take a decade just to get the feasibility studies done and the paper design right, if Pakistan intends to do it alone.

CAC and SAC are susidiaries of AVIC, they all serve national interetsts and follow goverment order.

 

[BATMAN]

But Better than blk-52 in the term of Avionics @BATMAN

and less kill switch!

Turkey buy 100 F35, and TFX is still alive.

There's a big time gap between F-35 and TFX.
When Turkey committed to F-35, they didn't committed to TFX.
Even today TFX is only in conceptual phase, while AZAM has a clear road map!

On J31... is twin engine. If PAF went for J31 it will mark a huge war doctrine shift. of which i don't see any signs or logic.

 

[randomradio]

CAC and SAC are susidiaries of AVIC, they all serve national interetsts and follow goverment order.

Mig and Sukhoi are also under UAC, but both are highly competitive.

In such systems, there is always one winner and one loser. And the loser typically loses a lot of bureaucratic power. For example, the directors of CAC have gained far more power than SAC due to the J-20 project, while SAC is still stuck with the J-11s. That's why they used their own funds to make the J-31, which no one is really interested in. Future projects will see more CAC input than SAC. The same with Lock Mart in the US with the F-22 and F-35, Boeing and Northrop are always in whining mode. You see Boeing peddling the Growler over the F-35 constantly now.

When it comes to SOEs, the competition between them can be quite intense. You should see how anti-competitive HAL in India is.

 

[Trango Towers]

and less kill switch!



There's a big time gap between F-35 and TFX.
When Turkey committed to F-35, they didn't committed to TFX.
Even today TFX is only in conceptual phase, while AZAM has a clear road map!

On J31... is twin engine. If PAF went for J31 it will mark a huge war doctrine shift. of which i don't see any signs or logic.

Two points.

1. Turkey has an industrial base, good economy and good tech
2. Turkey has options. Access to western fighters and if the west refuse they can buy Russian.


Paksitan has enemies galore and no choices. So it's venture into jf17 which was almost cancelled by Zardari has shown tremendous success and potential. So design develop be independent and market is the future. PAF has realised this and is working to that end.

 

[Incog_nito]

I think PAF might still wait 3-4 years to see J-31 flying in PAF colors and even I am not sure that Chinese will give Pakistan a license to produce J-31 in Pakistan.

 

[帅的一匹]

I'm not sure about FC31, but PAF might be interested in L15 advanced trainer.

 

[Readerdefence]

Hi

I think PAF might still wait 3-4 years to see J-31 flying in PAF colors and even I am not sure that Chinese will give Pakistan a license to produce J-31 in Pakistan.

Hi my friend you are right with the 3-4 or may be 5 years of time line as most of the anti j31 members are not keeping a point in mind & that is next in line ACC are need to be fully operational let’s say 2-4 time line and coz of the weight and other paraphernalia j20 can’t be able to fly out from those ACCs
So the best bet in stealth mode operational aircraft from ACC is j31 and they have time to make it to the Chinese naval standards with this time bar
Thank you

 

[Incog_nito]

I'm not sure about FC31, but PAF might be interested in L15 advanced trainer.

I wish to bring FA-50 from Korea.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Fantastic platform , PAF should act Modern characteristics and Stealth. It hides all weapons it contains in internal bay a hidden Phantom Plane

• 40 Plane Order would solidify PAF modernization attempt having a classified tech in our grasp which can play a tactical role
• 2+ Squadrons would be a great way to examine the active role the plane can play

Phantom Hunter MODE

 

[Ultima Thule]

I wish to bring FA-50 from Korea.

Not possible, too much technology from USA (restrictions) it is light weight attacker, CAS/advanced trainer, we are getting away from US @IM Ozair

Fantastic platform , PAF should act Modern characteristics and Stealth. It hides all weapons it contains in internal bay a hidden Phantom Plane

• 40 Plane Order would solidify PAF modernization attempt having a classified tech in our grasp which can play a tactical role
• 2+ Squadrons would be a great way to examine the active role the plane can play

Phantom Hunter MODE

V2 is far more better that V1 @AZADPAKISTAN2009

 

[Army research]

and less kill switch!



There's a big time gap between F-35 and TFX.
When Turkey committed to F-35, they didn't committed to TFX.
Even today TFX is only in conceptual phase, while AZAM has a clear road map!

On J31... is twin engine. If PAF went for J31 it will mark a huge war doctrine shift. of which i don't see any signs or logic.

AZM is dual engine ,
Kudos

 

[Rafi]

Thank you brother, you and the Turks are our true allies. Nuff said.

 

[MastanKhan]

Fantastic platform , PAF should act Modern characteristics and Stealth. It hides all weapons it contains in internal bay a hidden Phantom Plane

• 40 Plane Order would solidify PAF modernization attempt having a classified tech in our grasp which can play a tactical role
• 2+ Squadrons would be a great way to examine the active role the plane can play

Phantom Hunter MODE

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Hi,

See---there is still some common sense left in you---if you dig deeper into yourself---.

 

[Ultima Thule]

AZM is dual engine ,
Kudos

how do you know, its a dual engine or single engine and its shape whether is Canard delta wing, or tailed cropped delta wing @Army research