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J-31 for Turkish Airforce

the current 5th gen stealth fighter J-XX is under development````and it has two versions
1: domestic ones, for PLAN only so far``
2: export version, the weapon bays cannt accommodate WVRM, it has to be stationed on wings

compared to the current J-20s, J-XX's requirement for maintainability, survivability, stealthness and battle awareness is very strict````WS-19 will be ready around 2022 (mass production version)````

As far as I know, there are European and Middle Estern countries had visited SAC regarding this project```but I cant tell the names`````
 
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Well do you see NATO screaming about S-400 purchase? We tried to buy stuff from US and they didn't even sell simple drones, heck they didnt even sell few automatic rifles (nice that because of their secret arms embargo, now we produce our own rifles and drones). NATO understood our stance and agreed with us.

If we can't get 5th gen multirole fighter from US, there is only J-31 left on the table, NATO will understand that. US? they will get crazy and i would love to see that:lol: . US talks about full blown economic and military embargo on Turkey, don't expect us to think forward US interests. We would rather go for Turkish interests to make US mad.

China will be happy to remove USA's bridge towards Caucasus and Middleeast as Turkey will be dependent on China in air fleet, just like Russia enjoys ditching US power projection in Turkey by selling S-400s, building Nuclear power plants. (China will also build one nuclear power plant in Turkey's thrace)

J31 would open a new Pandora box of controversies and would divert resources from tfx


U will get some f35 if not 100 as planned prior
U already make several parts of f35

Instead of going for an immature j31 use your knowhow resources to expedite tfx development

Honestly I m even confused why turkey is making fuss over s400 which is a proven failure in Syria

Perhaps they want this fissco to get more from USA if they comply
 
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Russian S400 Air Defense System was a slap in the face for the US
and Chinese FC-31 5th gen Fighter Jet is with the Turkish Electronic,Avionic and Weapon Systems would be a slap in the face for the US
 
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Maybe I am wrong
PAF is very powerful,show no interest in FC31,focus on more advanced platforms
Wish you good luck

Pakistan has learned from the JF-17 Thunder experience that it will not buy or produce a joint-venture aircraft with China which the Chinese military won't induct for their own armed forces.
 
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Pakistan has learned from the JF-17 Thunder experience that it will not buy or produce a joint-venture aircraft with China which the Chinese military won't induct for their own armed forces.
Still wish Pakistan good luck

FC31 highly likely will not inducted by Chinese military force
 
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Pakistan has learned from the JF-17 Thunder experience that it will not buy or produce a joint-venture aircraft with China which the Chinese military won't induct for their own armed forces.
What PAF needs is not the same as that of PLAAF/PLANAF.
Pakistan can choose the development model of JF-17, or that of F-35 what USA and its allies take.
 
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https://www.haberturk.com/son-dakika-trump-skandal-f-35-kararini-imzaladi-2101369

F-35 era for Turkey is over. Let's see if our retarded government will realize the mistake, and go for J-31.

Answer to that is ofcourse closing down Incirlik. Stopping of production that makes critical parts for the F-35. Starting talks for alternative jetfighter like the J-31 so they realize they make exactly the same mistake about patriot systems. There is not even 1 person in the congress that has the brain to understand that this is just making the problems bigger and biggers.
 
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Answer to that is ofcourse closing down Incirlik. Stopping of production that makes critical parts for the F-35. Starting talks for alternative jetfighter like the J-31 so they realize they make exactly the same mistake about patriot systems. There is not even 1 person in the congress that has the brain to understand that this is just making the problems bigger and biggers.

Unfortunately, I think their congress is very well aware of what they are doing. A strong and powerful Turkey is not in their interest (especially not after the Turkish-Israel crisis). Erdogan might be delusional at times, but he is right on this one. This is nothing less than an attempt to no allow Turkey to become too powerful. Economic attacks, F-35 blockade, YPG are just tools to achieve that.
 
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Unfortunately, I think their congress is very well aware of what they are doing. A strong and powerful Turkey is not in their interest (especially not after the Turkish-Israel crisis). Erdogan might be delusional at times, but he is right on this one. This is nothing less than an attempt to no allow Turkey to become too powerful. Economic attacks, F-35 blockade, YPG are just tools to achieve that.

So in fact they already accepted the loss of Turkey as an ally to the east block.
 
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