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its right time to leave failed State Banana republic

Lolz, did you consider the factors like covid and post covid global supply chain disruptions, oil prices post covid, global inflation ? M sure not
Pakistan was barely holding on by a thread in 2009-2011
 
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Remind me if TLP is the same party whose former head Khadim Hussain Rizvi had said that Wahhabis are swine and why respect their Adhan when he finished his jalsa and the adhan began soon after?

Did you say they are true religious party? But whose religion are they representing anyway? For them everyone is a swine besides their own people?

There is no such thing as a true religious political party. Any student of politics will let you know that nothing can twist a religion more than politics. I genuinely thank Allah almighty that our country is not dominated by a single religious ideology otherwise Pakistan would have sunk long time ago. Only thing keeping Mullahs out of power are their own bigoted differences. Most Religious political groups were formed by our own Military establishment as pressure groups against main stream political parties.
 
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I wish stop sending remittance to Pakistan

After careful consideration next Monday I will send a small contribution and that would be my last for education of my cousin and may be some help to my uncle who is being treated for surgery

At end of my parent's connection to Pakistan every thing will be sold in Pakistan and moved overseas

Unless elections occur

Elites in Pakistan will have to ask money from IMF or Donald Lu

There is zero plan to own land in Gwadar after Saturday's fiasco
 
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Its really sad affair to look at ..how a Nuke power with world 5th biggest population is behaving so slavish.

I and my Lil brother make daily Plans on how we want to move back to our nation with our kids. We have so long discussions daily on why we should give our Young years to these ppl when we have strenght, health and money to do something for our ppl and nation . We want to go back next year and buy some oncultivated land in thal OR cholisten and try to make IT usefull. I Am An amateur but i am learning about aqua and hydrophonics and ways to cultivate Ginger etc. But these news are Just demotivating.

This is our entire history.

It's just that we finally got an honest guy whose primary goal was not to amass personal wealth and enjoy privileges, so the reality finally came into focus for many Pakistanis.
 
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What a loser attitude, good riddance and don't look back.

It is a realist attitude. Only a moron would hedge its bets on a political solution in this country. It has become very clear that Army doesn't want a single powerful unit to hold this country together. They prefer ethno facist bigots like Ali Wazir and Pashteen so that they can use all ethnic group against each other for political maneuvering. Army Elites have that danda up their holes where they cant tolerate anyone more powerful than themselves.

In short our Elections are nothing but a fascade. You can bet by next election Imran Khan will be in jail on some flimsy grounds paving way for PMLN and PPP circus once again.
 
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You don't cheer when most productive members of your society leave for greener pastures
South East Asia grew because it is now in a position to retain its brightest while we are facing a massive brain drain

The entire game is ruthless meritocracy. The unforgiving attraction and retention of top talent.

There are ZERO such measures by the Pak govt/army/etc. They simply believe what they're getting is fine. The reason is that they value loyalty, not competence.

It is a realist attitude. Only a moron would hedge its bets on a political situation in this country. It has become very clear that Army doesn't want a single powerful unit to hold this country together. They prefer ethno facist bigots like Ali Wazir and Pashteen so that they can use all ethnic group against each other for political maneuvering. Army Elites have that danda up their holes where they cant tolerate anyone more powerful than themselves.

Finally, we are all waking up.
 
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The entire game is ruthless meritocracy. The unforgiving attraction and retention of top talent.

There are ZERO such measures by the Pak govt/army/etc. They simply believe what they're getting is fine. The reason is that they value loyalty, not competence.



Finally, we are all waking up.
Even in fields like IT where national boundaries dont matter people leave Pakistan
Why is that?
 
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Even in fields like IT where national boundaries dont matter people leave Pakistan
Why is that?

We all know the obvious reasons --- lack of law & order and the usual third world problems.

But there's a slightly less obvious reason: the culture. By culture, I don't mean heritage or traditions. I mean sociological factors: the strange relationship between effort and reward, the absurd definitions of excellence (mediocre = excellent), the power dynamics, etc.

Anybody with a functioning brain who wants to excel simply NEEDS to leave.
 
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how overseas pakistani are feeling and thinking right now?
As if something died inside...Completely disappointed. Everyone I talk to say the same. Most all think of removing their investments from Pakistan. But they are Pakistani by birth after all and they also suffer from short term memory loss they will simmer down and forget too. Who doesn't like biryanis and qeeme wala naan.
 
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What a loser attitude, good riddance and don't look back.

Chutyo ki nagri me rehna he Q ? Ho qoam apny Haq Kay lye Awaz he ni utha Sakti jab usky Sath ziadti ho rahe ho pir b gharo me bet Kay mobile se chipky bety ho us qoam Ka hisa kehlaane pe b mjhy sharm ATI Hy. Hamne Kashmir or Palestine azaad krna tha khud azaad Hona to bhool he gye thy. Ye turkey Ka PM/President hota to Raat ko hatay jany Kay baad b aaj sbha pir se bahal hota apni post pe. Bhai looser attitude ni. We keep repeating ourselves and make same mistakes. This makes us idiots and we are so. 71, 85, 92 yahe hota Raha Hy. 99 b. Ab b yahe Hua. Pir b chutya qoam so rahe. Bhai saada se bat Hy.
Jis mulk Ka PM SS ho, President Fazlurehman ho . Me na us mulk Ka shehri Hun na us qoam Ka hisa. Or ye elect hue ho Mohsin dawar and co plus us qatil Kay vote se. Aisy mulk Ka shehri hone se to behtr Hy me struggle Kru USA jaun wahan choty moty election jeet Kay aky TM pe hukmraani Kru or tmhary hukmraano pe b. Ab isko looser attitude kaho ya practicality. Apki marzi.
 
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how overseas pakistani are feeling and thinking right now?

At my home we have a feeling of a funeral

Pata nahi Jazba Hub Ul Watani Mer giyee , or I am just Shocked at Backstab


Alhamdulilah Allah has given us every thing we can ask for
> Achhi Job
> Accha Ghar
> Car
> Izzat
>Mehnat se kamai Bank Balance (0% bribe all , weekly pay checks )

Kisi cheeze ki Kami nahi hai Sub kuch diya Allah ni diya

Allah ne Imran Khan ko 3.5 sal tak Izzat di , hamare Heads Dunyain main buland kiye !!! Oic ne hum per bharosa kiya . Hamari Qoun per Yaqeen kiya !!! Trust kiya

Pakistan ko Badalta Dekha !!! Apni Ankhoon se Dekha
Ye Dekha ke Aek Insan 20 Sal Mehnat ker kai , Hamare Pakistan ko Izzat De sakta hai

but...

Seeing Pakistani Supreme court Dalals , in action develop custom law at will , killed the idealogy of a free Pakistan.


K ki Bache Supreme Court Ke Dallalon ni Soda ker diya


Aysa laga , Supreme court ke Dallalon ne apni Maa beech di, Donald Lu ko

Kabhi kisi Dallal ko Apni Maa Bechte pehle kabhi nahi dekha

5 Dalal . Aek nahi 5 Dalal
 
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What a loser attitude, good riddance and don't look back.

Maryam apny bacho Ka Soch rahe , Zardari or Bilawal b Soch rahy. Molana b bety ko launch kr chuka.. to me q na sochu apnay bare me or apni family or ayenda naslo Kay lye ? Mjhy mere bety SS, bilawal or Molana jaisy logo Kay mahkoom ni chahahye. To mery Pas 2 rasty Hy. Ya to inko change Kru ya niklu yahan SE. Inko change to IK in 22 Saal ki jadujehd or fame b ni or sake na qoam ko educate or sake. Mery Pas to na wo fame Hy na itni lambi jadujehd Kay lye 22 Saal. So Bhai I choose to quit. Just like IK choose to quit.
 
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