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It's official - India is not ready for war

By Siddharth Srivastava

NEW DELHI - In the first official admission that India is not ready for war, particularly with Pakistan, Defense Minister A K Antony has blamed government red tape for delays in modernizing the military.

"Even though our government has earmarked huge budgets [for the military], this is not being fully reflected in our modernization efforts. Allocation of money has never been a problem. The issue


has rather been the timely and judicious utilization of the money allocated," he said at a recent seminar in New Delhi.

"We need to cut down on unnecessary procedural delays, bottlenecks and red tape in our procurement mechanism," he added.

Antony said though the government had created the Defense Procurement Procedure (DPP), more changes in procedures were required to "optimize transparency, fairness and to ensure speedy procurement".

The DPP was unveiled by the government in 2008 in hopes of speeding up the acquisition of armaments, systems and platforms while ensuring greater transparency in the procurement process.

The government on Monday indicated it was reviewing the provisions of the DPP to remove bottlenecks and usher in greater private participation in the defense production sector, reported the Hindu newspaper.

"DPP had been revised for the fourth time in 2008 and it still requires further refining," said Sashi Kant Sharma, the director of General Acquisitions at the Defense Ministry.

India's defense expenditure for 2008-2009 dipped below 2% of gross domestic product for the first time in decades, an amount less than the global average of around 2.5%, and which lags behind America's 4.1% and Pakistan's 3.5%.

Officials have told Asia Times Online that India did not launch a military strike against Pakistan following the Pakistan-linked Mumbai terror attacks last November because army commanders told New Delhi the country lacked enough artillery to defend its territory. (See Indian army 'backed out' of Pakistan attack , Asia Times Online, January 20 2009.)

Sources have told ATol that the Defense Ministry's existing budgets are exhausted and that it is unhappy with delays in military procurement. The ministry has been pushing this year for at least a 30% hike in its budget to nearly 450 billion rupees (US$9.2 billion) for the armed forces.

In 2007-8 about 28 billion rupees was spent on weapons acquisitions out of a budget of nearly 33 billion rupees. While in 2008-2009, a capital outlay of nearly 37.5 billion rupees was revised down to 30.5 billion rupees due to delays in the aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, Eurocopter and BrahMos contracts.

The parliamentary standing committee on defense said in its 2008 report that 13 billion rupees remained unspent in 2005-06, 30 billion rupees in 2003-04 and 90 billion rupees in 2002-03. These were funds which were supposed to modernize India's armed forces.

In total, 210 billion rupees has remained unspent in the five years (2003-7), as deals were scrapped or delayed due to controversy and kickback allegations. The slippages led to a year-end surrender of funds in 2007.

However, change is in the air following the Mumbai attack. The India-Pakistan tensions which followed have put a sense of urgency in India's military upgrading efforts, and US$50 billion is expected to be spent on modernization over the next five years.

Last week, Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major, the new chief of the air staff, said the Indian Air Force would utilize annual budgets and spend the full amount it has been allocated.

There is now hope that India's military will modernize as the government loosens the purse strings. India's wish list includes fighter jets, helicopters, nuclear submarines, radars, warships, reconnaissance aircraft and long-delayed Howitzer field guns, among others.

Over 300 foreign defense firms and many Indian ones are looking to impress at the Aero India-2009 air show in Bangalore from February 11-15.

Leading companies from Germany, France, Britain, Russia, the United States, Italy, Belgium, Israel and Australia are participating. Major aviation and weapons systems firms attending include Boeing, Sikorsky, EADS, BAE Systems MiG-Sukhoi, Embraer, Bombardier and SAAB.

Last month the army made a fast-track order of 4,100 French-origin Milan-2T anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), as the indigenous Nag missile is yet to be operational. The 6 billion rupee order for the Milan ATGMs has been on hold for a while, like other military orders.

Since Mumbai officials say there is an emerging consensus among the political leadership, the bureaucracy and military commanders that New Delhi cannot be "caught napping" again, given the heightened tensions between India and Pakistan.

Although a drawn-out war between the neighbors has been more or less ruled out due to expected intervention by Western powers, particularly the US, India needs to be prepared for a short war with Pakistan.

"Surgical strikes [against Pakistan] are definitely feasible," India's army chief General Deepak Kapoor was quoted as saying this week. "But whether you wish to take that decision or not is a separate issue," he said.

India has a long way to go to put its near obsolete military arsenal in order, as no defense contracts have escaped the usual cycle of corruption allegations, political brinkmanship and investigations.

One example is the Bofors gun corruption scandal of the 1980s, when several Indian politicians, including then-prime minister Rajiv Gandhi, were accused of receiving kickbacks from Bofors AB for winning a bid to supply India's 155 mm field howitzer.

This scandal severely affected the army's artillery modernization plan, with no powerful guns being introduced since the 1986 purchase of 410 Bofors 155mm/39-caliber howitzers.

The army has been looking to import 400 such artillery guns from abroad and manufacture another 1,100 domestically, without success.

Several experts' reports, including at least one by the independent Comptroller and Auditor (CAG), have highlighted the inadequacies in India's main battle tank (MBT) fleet - the main strike force of any army. Almost all of India's MBT fleet are of Russian origin.

The CAG report focused on India's deficiency vis-a-vis Pakistan, as the more immediate threat, but also deficiencies with regard to China are too glaring to even be addressed. It clearly pointed at tank, upgrades and technology transfer issues with Russia.

Last year, Kapoor also said that Russia had been delaying technology transfer on the T-90s, which has in turn pushed back production in India. India purchased 310 of these tanks in 2001 and in 2007, and signed a contract for another 347.

Pakistan has a crack fleet of about 1,300 Chinese and Ukrainian tanks.

Experts have also highlighted India's inadequacies in missile attack capability when compared to Pakistan's China- and North Korea-backed program. India's efforts to test a nuclear-enabled BrahMos cruise missile failed last month. ’ Among India's ballistic missiles, only the short-range (150-350 kilometers) Prithvi is battle-ready. Though India has successfully tested the longer range (700-2,000 kilometer) Agni missiles, they are yet to be fully operational and are still being tested.

Siddharth Srivastava is a New Delhi-based journalist. He can be reached at sidsri@yahoo.com.
 
The 'sources' according to this article are wrong. I can point out atleast one aspect, i havent bothered to read the entire article.

The MoD has returned unspent money allocated during the budget. The article says MoD has already exhausted money for this year.
 
The 'sources' according to this article are wrong. I can point out atleast one aspect, i havent bothered to read the entire article.

The MoD has returned unspent money allocated during the budget. The article says MoD has already exhausted money for this year.

Do you really want war that badly?
Why can't you say: "Thank god we weren't ready for war, because war would be disastrous for both countries" or "Pheww, luckily we didn't wage any war because war is no good".

Ohwell, it's in your nature, you need to see a good slap on India's armed forces by Pakistan to realize that going to war is no option at all.
 
The Army did not have enough equipment for an all out war. IA still has to start the field Arty modernization. Frankly, compared to PA, IA is still better off in terms of Arty but it is still not sufficient from their perspective.
The Airforce and Navy have been all out, all prepared.

The answer has been said by the CoAS, the military(overall) was ready, it was however a decision which has to be taken by the GoI, not the Indian Army. Whether it was a good decision taken by GoI or a bad one, remains to be seen.
 
The Army did not have enough equipment for an all out war. IA still has to start the field Arty modernization. Frankly, compared to PA, IA is still better off in terms of Arty but it is still not sufficient from their perspective.
The Airforce and Navy have been all out, all prepared.

The answer has been said by the CoAS, the military(overall) was ready, it was however a decision which has to be taken by the GoI, not the Indian Army. Whether it was a good decision taken by GoI or a bad one, remains to be seen.

Pakistan still was not attacked by India.
My conclusion is, India wasn't prepared for any retaliation from Pakistan thus meaning their armed forces weren't ready to bear the brunt.
 
The Army did not have enough equipment for an all out war. IA still has to start the field Arty modernization. Frankly, compared to PA, IA is still better off in terms of Arty but it is still not sufficient from their perspective.
The Airforce and Navy have been all out, all prepared.

The answer has been said by the CoAS, the military(overall) was ready, it was however a decision which has to be taken by the GoI, not the Indian Army. Whether it was a good decision taken by GoI or a bad one, remains to be seen.

Sir the question is that do u really want a war? and why? don't u think a peaceful way out of this mess is better for Pakistan & India both! :what: :frown:
 
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Sir the question is that do u really want a war? and why? dotn u think a peaceful way out of this mess is better for Pakistan & India both! :what: :frown:

What's more important to him is that Indian armed forces are ready and well equipped to take out Pakistan when the time is there.
The preparedness of the IA to attack Pakistan is the only thing that matters to most Indians I think.
If war really happened, and the outcome not very bright for both Pakistan and India, I would assume alot of Indians would think of preventing war at first hand instead of thinking about the preparedness and the strike rate of their armed forces.
 
Surprisingly this news has not been reported by any other news agency. Given the independence of Indian media, this report of lack of preparedness would have surfaced first in India rather than Hong Kong. Which leads me to doubt the credibilty of this report.

Yet,I believe the report misguides the reader. You see the possibility of a full scale Indo-Pak conflict is totally ruled out. International powers would begin sweating in their pants the day such a conflict began. Given the size of IA and PA and their relative deployment, I guess India would have managed to have achieved its limited objective that would be "Strike selective targets, satisfy dosmetic anguish, and prepare for a short skirmish". World's 2nd largest army would have enough artillery. But considering their less than satisfactory preparedness, IAF and IN would have played a pivotal role. But we all hope there is no war.
 
This Clearly shows that India wants to have one final Countdown with Pakistan and that's why they are spending Billions in Order to have a Clear Cut Edge over Pakistan and every time they plan something against Pakistan they are stuck with their own Problems.

Last Time after parliament attack India wanted to Attack Pakistan and now again after Mumbai incident situation is same.

They take Military Hardware in the Name of "Countering China" but in reality they are targeting Pakistan.
 
What's more important to him is that Indian armed forces are ready and well equipped to take out Pakistan when the time is there.
The preparedness of the IA to attack Pakistan is the only thing that matters to most Indians I think.

If war really happened, and the outcome not very bright for both Pakistan and India, I would assume alot of Indians would think of preventing war at first hand instead of thinking about the preparedness and the strike rate of their armed forces.

Ofcourse Prevention is better than Cure, but prevention doesnt mean that you should not be prepared to defend the nation. Thats not a correct logic brother. India should continue modernisation and strengthening their defence system. Coz only if there is a sense of security an economy can grow.
 
Taking into account Pak's response and attitude a war is definitely going to happen in next few years especially the increasing deterioration of PAK by Taliban and extremists.
 
Ofcourse Prevention is better than Cure, but prevention doesnt mean that you should not be prepared to defend the nation. Thats not a correct logic brother. India should continue modernisation and strengthening their defence system. Coz only if there is a sense of security an economy can grow.

Yes it makes sense if you quote only that part of my post, but the whole picture is quite a different story.
Ofcourse India should continue strengthening her armed forces, however, sometimes I feel that alot of Indians are so obsessed of their countries capabilities over Pakistan that they are quite comfortable if war might happen between both nations.
I think that's dangerous thinking, and before alot of Indians find out that it's no good to go onto the path of warmongering, it might be too late, but then again, it's never too late to realize.
 
Taking into account Pak's response and attitude a war is definitely going to happen in next few years especially the increasing deterioration of PAK by Taliban and extremists.

What exactly is Pak's response and "attitude" in contrary to India's?
Can you please elaborate on that?
What about India's response and "attitude" so far, keeping in mind ofcourse, the countless of threats and big talk from Indian politicians?
I think the agressive and warmongering stance from the GoI might lead to war, I mean, violating Pakistan's airspace was simply a sign for the future, right?
 
Surprisingly this news has not been reported by any other news agency. Given the independence of Indian media, this report of lack of preparedness would have surfaced first in India rather than Hong Kong. Which leads me to doubt the credibilty of this report.

Yet,I believe the report misguides the reader. You see the possibility of a full scale Indo-Pak conflict is totally ruled out. International powers would begin sweating in their pants the day such a conflict began. Given the size of IA and PA and their relative deployment, I guess India would have managed to have achieved its limited objective that would be "Strike selective targets, satisfy dosmetic anguish, and prepare for a short skirmish". World's 2nd largest army would have enough artillery. But considering their less than satisfactory preparedness, IAF and IN would have played a pivotal role. But we all hope there is no war.

Wat+dude right u would attack e will sit right.Ans 4 guys holding revolvers are not as effective as 2 guys arming aug rifle is not all ways the quantity its quality in ARMY we beat u in every contest in QUALITY.U use t72,vijayantas as ur backbone of armoud corps,ur army is not fully equiped with insas most use tht old ww2 g2 assault rifle(dont know tht rifles name)ur arty can it match our boffors M1a3 Howitzers or firtina or panthers etc u dont even have a moving arty,can ur tanks match our T 80uds(modified to t 84 versian same turrets and several other features)our al zarrars or alkhalids.Our cobras with ur hinds lol man yes we do lack in navy but again we are going through a modernisation plane would be complete in 2014 and airforce still we can make a really good deterent even with our almost 100 F 16s more F16c/d 52 are coming and others are being upgraded to the same standards mirages v rose or mirage iii rose are good if not awesome and our JF 17s dude they can easily out match ur old mirage 2000s even our J7pg are extensively upgraded with BVR or griffo radars or can u out match us with ur non operational dud missiles with our Babur hataf or ghori etc think again...
YEH KHALLA JEE KA GHAR NAHIN HAI JANAM..YOU COME WITH UR DECISION AND GO WITH OURS CHALO ABB JAO DUDU(milk) piyo aur soo jao:no:
 

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