Italy bans halal slaughter

[padamchen]

to all question YES.

In UK?

Cheers, Doc

 

[SQ8]

This is what I predict. The smart have already seen the green shoots.

China and India will increasingly converge more than they will diverge. Radical Islam and American trade hehemony will.be key areas.

Pakistan's honeymoon with China is over. No way will they have as long a relationship as they did with the Americans. I put a lot of this to racial perceptions with respect to how the brown man sees the white versus the yellow.

Pakistan will increasingly get drawn into the Russian sphere. Russia has always wanted and coveted warm water access. Now they will arm and buy their way to the same.

The Americans will not be unseated just yet. A long way to go. But they recognise that there are multiple poles developing in the east.

@Chinese-Dragon @Oscar @vostok @Indus Pakistan

Cheers, Doc

I wouldn’t see the distance go that far as some Chinese expats here have really taken to local culture while others have been isolating themselves in colonies.
Russia is happy with Iran but they arent the emotional nutjobs or wily players all around as the Russians want. Pakistan is a friend of convenience because they and Pakistan have a common goal; get America out of Afghanistan and the area(adding Pakistan’s goal of being the only entry point for America into Asia- arent that stupid ya know)
As for the US, it wants Iran- always has, always will. Turks and the Iranians are the perfect containment from keeping Russia out of the middle east.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Halal meat when prepared properly tastes nicer. Just saying.

 

[Tiberius]

Halal meat when prepared properly tastes nicer. Just saying.

You propably love the huge amount of hormones the animal sets free under the extreme pain.

Hannibal Lecter...is this you?

 

[Azadkashmir]

halal meat is less likely to disease. The Muslim is excuse to ban meat but then next plan will be eat gmo meat. they use Muslim bad guy to implement slave laws.

 

[dBSPL]

Is kosher meat banned too?

The meat produced according to the Jewish faith can be consumed in compulsory cases. Because the principles are very close .

 

[HannibalBarca]

halal meat is less likely to disease. The Muslim is excuse to ban meat but then next plan will be eat gmo meat. they use Muslim bad guy to implement slave laws.

It's only a way to give the people a bone to chew on...instead of letting the citizen shift their "anger" toward Italian core problem... Like a falling economy... Where the their current gov..;can't seems to find a way out...

Is kosher meat banned too?

The meat produced according to the Jewish faith can be consumed in compulsory cases. Because the principles are very close .

Neither Halal or Kosher are banned in Italy... It's just a click bait title/article...nothing more...nothing less...

 

[Tiberius]

halal meat is less likely to disease. The Muslim is excuse to ban meat but then next plan will be eat gmo meat. they use Muslim bad guy to implement slave laws.

yeah we all know about the high hygienic standards of halal meat...slaughtered at some dirty backyards with zero hygienic standards.

Dude...

Is kosher meat banned too?

The meat produced according to the Jewish faith can be consumed in compulsory cases. Because the principles are very close .

The proposed law banns both. Kosher and halal practices.

 

[dBSPL]

yeah we all know about the high hygienic standards of halal meat...slaughtered at some dirty backyards with zero hygienic standards.

Dude...




The proposed law banns both. Kosher and halal practices.

This is not a valid excuse. The ministry of health can introduce legal obligations and increase the frequency of audits. In many parts of the world have halal meat cut integrated facilities with advanced hygienic standards.

It is not a conscientious approach to prevent the consumption of meat by Muslims and Jewish communities or to force them unsuitable by their beliefs.

 

[HannibalBarca]

This is not a valid excuse. The ministry of health can introduce legal obligations and increase the frequency of audits. In many parts of the world have halal meat cut integrated facilities with advanced hygienic standards.

Do you believe him?
Nowadays every Halal meat butcher... HAVE NO RIGHT TO SELL MEAT THAT AREN'T OUT OF THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE( that are giving permit by the ITALIAN GOV)...

The backyard slaughter was 30-40 years ago...When HALAL slaughter houses weren't present...

His comment is even more "insulting" to Italy...By making it look like that country is a third world class African country... Where permits/control don't exist...

 

[Tiberius]

This is not a valid excuse. The ministry of health can introduce legal obligations and increase the frequency of audits. In many parts of the world have halal meat cut integrated facilities with advanced hygienic standards.

It is not a conscientious approach to prevent the consumption of meat by Muslims and Jewish communities or to force them unsuitable by their beliefs.

Its simply not accepted by italian people. Our country, our rules. Can you accept that?

Our party was voted into power because the italian people want change. End political correc t bullshit.

We are a free country. Evryone who doesnt like Italy is free to move out. There are countless countries in the world that suit evryone.

 

[Azadkashmir]

yeah we all know about the high hygienic standards of halal meat...slaughtered at some dirty backyards with zero hygienic standards.

Dude...




The proposed law banns both. Kosher and halal practices.

are you serious ? you talking about poor parts of the country but hey if times are hard enjoy. i bet their are plenty of Italians who have slaughtered at some dirty backyards with zero hygienic standards. I have had the privilege to eat meat slaughtered at backyard and i tell you what it was very clean we used well water to clean and added natural salt, greens that were home grown and tomatoes etc and cooked on natural fire place. This natural organic meat will give you a kick when it comes to flavor.

 

[dBSPL]

Its simply not accepted by italian people. Our country, our rules. Can you accept that?

Our party was voted into power because the italian people want change. End political correc t bullshit.

We are a free country. Evryone who doesnt like Italy is free to move out. There are countless countries in the world that suit evryone.

Your country and your ideology . I was expecting such a honestly answer.

No need to take shelter behind the lies. But you will probably continue to hide behind such useful lies as the issue will be moved to the European Court of Human Rights.

Or import will be made instead of production.

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

 

[Śakra]

As per Indian tradition, animal slaughter is done by a single decapitating blow. This is the best method imho because the animal isn’t tortured like it is in the halal/kosher method.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

The Italian populist League party, led by firebrand Matteo Salvini, has introduced legislation that would ban ritual halal slaughter, arguing that animals should be respected and protected from suffering.

Your Minister is an idiot

A team at the university of Hannover in Germany examined the claims through the use of EEG and ECG records during slaughter. Several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skull of all the animals used in the experiment and they were then allowed to recover for several weeks. Some of the animals were subsequently slaughtered the halal way by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck, cutting the jugular veins and carotid arteries of both sides together with the trachea and esophagus but leaving the spinal cord intact. The remainder were stunned before slaughter using a captive bolt pistol method as is customary in Western slaughterhouses. The EEG and ECG recordings allowed to monitor the condition of the brain and heart throughout.
The Halal method
With the halal method of slaughter, there was not change in the EEG graph for the first three seconds after the incision was made, indicating that the animal did not feel any pain from the cut itself. This is not surprising. Often, if we cut ourselves with a sharp implement, we do not notice until some time later. The following three seconds were characterised by a condition of deep sleep-like unconciousness brought about by the draining of large quantities of blood from the body. Thereafter the EEG recorded a zero reading, indicating no pain at all, yet at that time the heart was still beating and the body convulsing vigorously as a reflex reaction of the spinal cord. It is this phase which is most unpleasant to onlookers who are falsely convinced that the animal suffers whilst its brain does actually no longer record any sensual messages.
The Western method
Using the Western method, the animals were apparently unconscious after stunning, and this method of dispatch would appear to be much more peaceful for the onlooker. However, the EEG readings indicated severe pain immediately after stunning. Whereas in the first example, the animal ceases to feel pain due to the brain starvation of blood and oxygen – a brain death, to put it in laymen’s terms – the second example first causes a stoppage of the heart whilst the animal still feels pain. However, there are no unsightly convulsions, which not only means that there is more blood retention in the meat, but also that this method lends itself much more conveniently to the efficiency demands of modern mass slaughter procedures. It is so much easier to dispatch an animal on the conveyor belt, if it does not move.
Appearances can deceive
Not all is what it seems, then. Those who want to outlaw Islamic slaughter, arguing for a humane method of killing animals for food, are actually more concerned about the feelings of people than those of the animals on whose behalf they appear to speak. The stunning method makes mass butchery easier and looks more palatable for the consumer who can deceive himself that the animal did not feel any pain when he goes to buy his cleanly wrapped parcel of meat from the supermarket. Islamic slaughter, on the other hand, does not try to deny that meat consumption means that animals have to die, but is designed to ensure that their loss of life is achieved with a minimum amount of pain.