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'Every Single Individual Must Stay Home': Italy's Coronavirus Surge Strains Hospitals
March 19, 20201:59 PM ET

Daniela De Rosa, a 43-year-old veterinarian in Italy's southwest Campania region, made a video message over the weekend as she was hospitalized with COVID-19. Her video plea has gathered much attention in Italy, which has just surpassed China in the number of reported deaths from the new coronavirus.

"I've been in isolation in a hospital room for so many days I've lost count," she says. "I have no contact with anyone other than doctors twice a day."

"Very few people understand what's happening. I want people to see I'm suffering," De Rosa continues.

"Every single individual must stay home and not endanger the lives of others," she insists.

Since the video was shared on Facebook last Sunday, it has racked up more than 11 million views.

As of Thursday afternoon, Italy has registered 41,035 diagnoses of the coronavirus and 3,405 deaths. The death toll is now higher than China's known COVID-19 deaths of over 3,200. Earlier this month, Italy became the first Western country to launch a nationwide lockdown to contain the outbreak, but despite strict measures, the number of cases continues to rise.

Italy has a universal health care system. But now, its hospitals and medical staff are overwhelmed, prompting anguished debate.

The Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care has issued guidelines for what it calls a "catastrophe medicine"-like scenario. The college put it starkly: Given the serious shortage of health resources, patients with the "best chance of success and hope of life" should have access to intensive care, the organization says.

"If you have an 99-year-old male or a female patient, that's a patient with a lot of diseases. And you have [a] young kid that need to be intubated and you only have one ventilator, I mean, you're not going to ... toss the coin," says Carlo Vitelli, a surgeon and oncologist in Rome.

He's speaking just a few hours after operating on a perforated appendix of a young man who had been in contact with a person from northern Italy, where the virus has hit the hardest in the country. It was "an emergency operation done on somebody who was in quarantine," Dr. Vitelli says, "don't know if he's going to develop. I don't think so. But, you never know."

Italy is treating the coronavirus pandemic like a wartime emergency. Health officials are scrambling to set up more beds. In Milan, the old fairgrounds is being turned into an emergency COVID-19 hospital with 500 new beds; across the country, hospitals are setting up inflatable tents outdoors for triage.

Other countries can learn important lessons from Italy, says Dr. Giuseppe Remuzzi, co-author of a recent paper in The Lancet about the country's dire situation. The takeaways include how to swiftly convert a general hospital into a coronavirus care unit with specially trained doctors and nurses.

"We had dermatologists, eye doctors, pathologists, learning how to assist a person with a ventilator," Remuzzi says.

Some question why Italy was caught off guard when the virus outbreak was revealed on Feb. 21.

Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."

He says it was impossible to combat something you didn't know existed.
 
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'Every Single Individual Must Stay Home': Italy's Coronavirus Surge Strains Hospitals
March 19, 20201:59 PM ET

Daniela De Rosa, a 43-year-old veterinarian in Italy's southwest Campania region, made a video message over the weekend as she was hospitalized with COVID-19. Her video plea has gathered much attention in Italy, which has just surpassed China in the number of reported deaths from the new coronavirus.

"I've been in isolation in a hospital room for so many days I've lost count," she says. "I have no contact with anyone other than doctors twice a day."

"Very few people understand what's happening. I want people to see I'm suffering," De Rosa continues.

"Every single individual must stay home and not endanger the lives of others," she insists.

Since the video was shared on Facebook last Sunday, it has racked up more than 11 million views.

As of Thursday afternoon, Italy has registered 41,035 diagnoses of the coronavirus and 3,405 deaths. The death toll is now higher than China's known COVID-19 deaths of over 3,200. Earlier this month, Italy became the first Western country to launch a nationwide lockdown to contain the outbreak, but despite strict measures, the number of cases continues to rise.

Italy has a universal health care system. But now, its hospitals and medical staff are overwhelmed, prompting anguished debate.

The Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care has issued guidelines for what it calls a "catastrophe medicine"-like scenario. The college put it starkly: Given the serious shortage of health resources, patients with the "best chance of success and hope of life" should have access to intensive care, the organization says.

"If you have an 99-year-old male or a female patient, that's a patient with a lot of diseases. And you have [a] young kid that need to be intubated and you only have one ventilator, I mean, you're not going to ... toss the coin," says Carlo Vitelli, a surgeon and oncologist in Rome.

He's speaking just a few hours after operating on a perforated appendix of a young man who had been in contact with a person from northern Italy, where the virus has hit the hardest in the country. It was "an emergency operation done on somebody who was in quarantine," Dr. Vitelli says, "don't know if he's going to develop. I don't think so. But, you never know."

Italy is treating the coronavirus pandemic like a wartime emergency. Health officials are scrambling to set up more beds. In Milan, the old fairgrounds is being turned into an emergency COVID-19 hospital with 500 new beds; across the country, hospitals are setting up inflatable tents outdoors for triage.

Other countries can learn important lessons from Italy, says Dr. Giuseppe Remuzzi, co-author of a recent paper in The Lancet about the country's dire situation. The takeaways include how to swiftly convert a general hospital into a coronavirus care unit with specially trained doctors and nurses.

"We had dermatologists, eye doctors, pathologists, learning how to assist a person with a ventilator," Remuzzi says.

Some question why Italy was caught off guard when the virus outbreak was revealed on Feb. 21.

Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. "They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November," he says. "This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China."

He says it was impossible to combat something you didn't know existed.
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chinese fake news... china is the source of trouble
You can search the "fake news" by yourself:
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chinese fake news... china is the source of trouble

This is from America's NPR news. But because it doesn't blame the death of the universe on china, it's "fake" according to you...

You are obviously pushing an agenda to attack China. You lack credibility.

As Italy's Coronavirus Deaths Pass China's, Hospitals Strain To Keep Up : NPR

 
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Quit your lies. There is ZERO evidence to blame China for this. Every propaganda blaming the Chinese has been debunked by scientific researchers. The first deaths caused by coronavirus happened shortly after the infamous US bioweapons lab was closed down for leakage.

1. The Chinese seafood market in Wuhan is proven to not be the origin.
2. America had an outbreak of deaths that matches coronavirus deaths exactly. This occurred around the middle of 2019 (shortly after the infamous Fort Deitrick bioweapons lab was closed because of leakage), way before any coronavirus deaths in China.
3. The US CDC director admitted that many of those deaths are caused by coronavirus
4. both Japan and Taiwan found only US has the entire family of coronaviruses, which completely implicates America. America did not deny this.
5. CDC holds secret meetings and hides all CDC coronavirus data from the world.

Those are the incontrovertible FACTS.

The origin of this coronavirus is made in the USA. 100%.
 
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for our Chinese dummys...this is how the virus got to italy.... answer thousend of illegla chinese work slaves working in sweat shops in Italy...

https://zackzack.at/2020/02/26/coro...DvHPPYTej8HyPxSzLKVNEGdqBbpwyrDSicsbr_RFM-4sY

they brought the virus to italy...and exactly were they are the virus spread out in the italian provices...so stop making BULLSHIT postings filled by chinese propaganda China is guilty for the virus and not other or the USA or Russia or little green people from Mars...

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Illegal workers usually go to the prosperous places. Where virus is also easy to spread. You can not say the virus was brought by Chinese illegal workers by that.
 
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last month in pakistan before the confirmation of corona cases in pak me and all of my family members had fever with cough and flu. kids had fever upto 102 F. we took it as seasonal flu and cold. took routine medications as majority in my family are doctors. the episode subsided after about 7 - 10 days. now we are thinking what was that? was that corona virus infection or seasonal flu?
so it is very likely that the virus could have spread a month before it is labelled as pandemic.
 
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It was it Italy first. Then instead of infecting the rest of Europe nearby, it decided to take a trip to China.
The population density is important. The first case could be in a low density place. So no massive infection. Or the infection speed is slow. But when the virus was brougth to a high density city like Wuhan. Massive infection would occur.
 
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Quit your lies. There is ZERO evidence to blame China for this. Every propaganda blaming the Chinese has been debunked by scientific researchers. The first deaths caused by coronavirus happened shortly after the infamous US bioweapons lab was closed down for leakage.

1. The Chinese seafood market in Wuhan is proven to not be the origin.
2. America had an outbreak of deaths that matches coronavirus deaths exactly. This occurred around the middle of 2019 (shortly after the infamous Fort Deitrick bioweapons lab was closed because of leakage), way before any coronavirus deaths in China.
3. The US CDC director admitted that many of those deaths are caused by coronavirus
4. both Japan and Taiwan found only US has the entire family of coronaviruses, which completely implicates America. America did not deny this.
5. CDC holds secret meetings and hides all CDC coronavirus data from the world.

Those are the incontrovertible FACTS.

The origin of this coronavirus is made in the USA. 100%.

You have sources of all these claims ?
 
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