Israel offered $6 mln to Turkish raid victims: lawyer

[Saithan]

A Turkish lawyer said on Thursday that Israel had offered to pay $6 million to victims of Israel's storming of a Gaza-bound Turkish aid flotilla to settle lawsuits against the Israeli military.

However, a senior Israeli official who declined to be named said that Israel, having indicated last year that it was prepared to indemnify victims without accepting blame, had not renewed its offer.

Turkey and Israel fell out badly in 2010 when Israeli commandos stormed the Mavi Marmara humanitarian aid ship to enforce a naval blockade of the Palestinian-run Gaza Strip and killed nine Turkish activits in clashes with activists.

Ramazan Arıtürk, one of several lawyers representing 465 victims and victims' relatives, told Reuters that the Israeli government had made a proposal to him through an intermediary foreign ambassador in Ankara just over one month ago.

He said the money would have been paid to a Jewish foundation in Turkey for distribution, and been followed by a statement of "regret" for the raid by the Israeli government.

"I told the ambassador I did not think the offer was appropriate or moral and also discussed the issue with the victims and their friends and they also stated that they could not accept this," Arıtürk said.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry agreed with his decision, saying Israel should have contacted it directly, he said.

Arıtürk declined to disclose the nationality of the ambassador or reveal the name of the Jewish foundation to which the payment would have been made.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry could not be reached for immediate comment, while Mark Regev, spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, declined to comment.

Turkey expelled Israel's ambassador and froze all military cooperation with its former ally after a U.N. report into the incident last September largely exonerated the Israeli state.

Turkey has demanded a formal apology from Israel alongside compensation for victims and the families of the dead, but Netanyahu has only voiced "regret".

On Wednesday an Istanbul prosecutor submitted an indictment seeking life sentences for four former Israeli military commanders in connection with the raid, including the Chief of General Staff at the time.

The U.N. report on the raid last September was meant to encourage a rapprochement but ultimately deepened the rift when it concluded Israel had used unreasonable force but that its blockade of Gaza was legal.


May/24/2012

source: POLITICS - Israel offered $6 mln to Turkish raid victims: lawyer

 

[Juice]

I hope this will heal some wounds, As upset as Turkey is with Isreal, their relationship could produce positives for all sides in the middle east, and position Turkey as a moral force.

 

[BordoEnes]

I hope this will heal some wounds, As upset as Turkey is with Isreal, their relationship could produce positives for all sides in the middle east, and position Turkey as a moral force.

Believe me, Turkey is far more of an 'Moral Force' Then Israel in the Region. This will only have benefits for Israel.

 

[killerx]

blood for blood

 

[PteX]

Believe me, Turkey is far more of an 'Moral Force' Then Israel in the Region. This will only have benefits for Israel.

Maybe in your special reality.
There is no friend in Turkey. Not a dime will go to to the parents who fathered those terrorists.

 

[KingMamba]

Maybe in your special reality.
There is no friend in Turkey. Not a dime will go to to the parents who fathered those terrorists.

You mean those Turkish citizens carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza that were gunned down by your commandos? (some at point blank range I may add) I think you got your definition of terrorist twisted my friend

 

[PteX]

You mean those Turkish citizens carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza that were gunned down by your commandos? (some at point blank range I may add) I think you got your definition of terrorist twisted my friend

Yes, i mean those Turkish citizens who came to Gaza with the pretense of humanitarian aid, to be discovered that they carried nonexistent aid(You might want to read up how most of their medicine was expired for years). The very same who stabbed soldiers, beat them with iron chains and dragged them down the ship.

My only regret is that they showed such restraint when attacked, because they were under orders not to engage these "peace activists" unless it was a last resort.

 

[BordoEnes]

Yes, i mean those Turkish citizens who came to Gaza with the pretense of humanitarian aid, to be discovered that they carried nonexistent aid(You might want to read up how most of their medicine was expired for years). The very same who stabbed soldiers, beat them with iron chains and dragged them down the ship.

My only regret is that they showed such restraint when attacked, because they were under orders not to engage these "peace activists" unless it was a last resort.

Pathetic Excuses of israelis knows no bound. You call kitchen knifes weapons, Call Humanitarian Aid funding Terrorist, Call the the Medical aid 'Expired'. What else? I wont be surpized when they suddenly come that it was an act for Aggresion. Cry me a river israeli, Backed by UN i can easely say those commandos are barbaric terrorist without honor and respect for humain lives.

Maybe in your special reality.
There is no friend in Turkey. Not a dime will go to to the parents who fathered those terrorists.

I see, Might i get the names of your friends and allies in the region please. I wait you dont have any

 

[KingMamba]

Yes, i mean those Turkish citizens who came to Gaza with the pretense of humanitarian aid, to be discovered that they carried nonexistent aid(You might want to read up how most of their medicine was expired for years). The very same who stabbed soldiers, beat them with iron chains and dragged them down the ship.

My only regret is that they showed such restraint when attacked, because they were under orders not to engage these "peace activists" unless it was a last resort.

Even if the medicine was expired (I will look into that) they only resisted when they were threatened by the commandos now if your commandos are intimidated by people with chains to the point that they have to shoot people at point blank range when they could have easily disarmed them without the use of guns then that is a different story and this whole mess could have just been avoided by apologizing especially since you considered Turkey to be a "friend" I mean i apologize to my friends all the time even if I still feel I am right just to move on from that particular incident but it is the fact that your arrogant government believed it was above that which has the Turks pissed off.

Yes, i mean those Turkish citizens who came to Gaza with the pretense of humanitarian aid, to be discovered that they carried nonexistent aid(You might want to read up how most of their medicine was expired for years). The very same who stabbed soldiers, beat them with iron chains and dragged them down the ship.

My only regret is that they showed such restraint when attacked, because they were under orders not to engage these "peace activists" unless it was a last resort.

One more thing if killing 9 people is showing restraint I would like to know what your idea of excessive force is.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

why dont people say germans showed restraint against jews?

 

[Bratva]

Yes, i mean those Turkish citizens who came to Gaza with the pretense of humanitarian aid, to be discovered that they carried nonexistent aid(You might want to read up how most of their medicine was expired for years). The very same who stabbed soldiers, beat them with iron chains and dragged them down the ship.

My only regret is that they showed such restraint when attacked, because they were under orders not to engage these "peace activists" unless it was a last resort.

Irony,paradox, call whatever you want. But Were Israeli commandos eunuchs that they were easily stabbed, beaten with iron chains or were dragged down the ship? What happened to their so called "Self Defense training" their martial arts exercises that they couldnotbeat the crap out of those "peace activists" in hand to hand combat? Is this kind of commandos Israel produce who are only fond of opening fire civilians who got knives and iron chains only ?

 

[PteX]

Pathetic Excuses of israelis knows no bound. You call kitchen knifes weapons, Call Humanitarian Aid funding Terrorist, Call the the Medical aid 'Expired'. What else? I wont be surpized when they suddenly come that it was an act for Aggresion. Cry me a river israeli, Backed by UN i can easely say those commandos are barbaric terrorist without honor and respect for humain lives.



I see, Might i get the names of your friends and allies in the region please. I wait you dont have any

Backward nations do not want to be allies with Israel, i fail to see a downside here.
It seems people like you are taught to speak nonsense as if it were intelligent observations.

@KingMamba93

I will answer you, because you somewhat capable(Unlike the people above you) to communicate without too much bias.

They didn't resist anything, there are videos of commandos being attacked before they boarded the ship while in their own boats.

"when they could have easily disarmed them without the use of guns then that is a different story and this whole mess"

Are you serious? Someone comes running at you with a knife, bloodlust in their eyes and you want the soldier to disarm him? While outnumbered by a horde of aggressors?
Have you ever even been in a fight against more than one person with a knife? Let alone with 20 of them all holding weapons?

You have a split second to decide your actions even in normal engagements, let alone when you are outnumbered and limited by the actions you were ordered to do by your superior officers.
I would like you to imagine being rushed by grown men screaming with knives, metal irons and iron chains, all looking at you with crazed eyes, wanting to kill you.

Now, if you can imagine that, and if you are a logical person, you will realize that it was a life and death situation and hesitation meant death.

 

[BronzePlaque]

One more thing if killing 9 people is showing restraint I would like to know what your idea of excessive force is.

Lol that was a good one

 

[KingMamba]

Backward nations do not want to be allies with Israel, i fail to see a downside here.
It seems people like you are taught to speak nonsense as if it were intelligent observations.

@KingMamba93

I will answer you, because you somewhat capable(Unlike the people above you) to communicate without too much bias.

They didn't resist anything, there are videos of commandos being attacked before they boarded the ship while in their own boats.

"when they could have easily disarmed them without the use of guns then that is a different story and this whole mess"

Are you serious? Someone comes running at you with a knife, bloodlust in their eyes and you want the soldier to disarm him? While outnumbered by a horde of aggressors?
Have you ever even been in a fight against more than one person with a knife? Let alone with 20 of them all holding weapons?

You have a split second to decide your actions even in normal engagements, let alone when you are outnumbered and limited by the actions you were ordered to do by your superior officers.
I would like you to imagine being rushed by grown men screaming with knives, metal irons and iron chains, all looking at you with crazed eyes, wanting to kill you.

Now, if you can imagine that, and if you are a logical person, you will realize that it was a life and death situation and hesitation meant death.

Very well I am willing to concede to the fact that it was a life and death situation for them but what followed afterwards is what has gotten the Turks in an uproar do you not agree that your government could have handled the following diplomatic crisis much more efficiently? I mean apologizing for the loss of life wouldn't have made Netanyahu ( I may have misspelled his name) any less of a man.

why dont people say germans showed restraint against jews?

That was unnecessary and derogatory you should take that back my friend. I understand your frustration being the fact that your brethren were killed but that does not mean you should endorse genocide.

 

[revojam]

Forget that incident what i questioning is when israel going to open their nuclear arsenal to inspection?In my eyes there are two rouge nations in middle-east not one...As long as Israel refuse inspection jews dont have any right to criticize Iran.We can criticize , rest of the world can criticize but not Isreal who refuse inspection and making insane plans like"If we fall rest of the world fall too".There are two rouge nations in middle-east not one!