ISIS name and Kabul attack perspective

[Goenitz]

The thread is about a petition or informing the government in anyway to change the name of ISIS in the media world. Why we call it "Islamic state". If the world can change the Indian variant as Delta variant, then Pak media at least change its name in news, papers and press releases.

Call them Khawarji, baghi, tagooti, etc.

Sir @ghazi52 said that it came on the same day that several countries ended their evacuation efforts. Also, Taliban were busy fighting Masood in Panjshir that kept them occupied.

So Pak and Int community should help Taliban to quickly form the inclusive government. Int community should help Taliban to fight the Khwarjis. Once, all factions agreed, Pak and Int community should support central forces against any faction so that that they don't get weak/distracted against Khwarjis.

Pakistan at least should do that openly so that Khwarjis don't get hold in Afghanistan and becoem a threat to Pak and CPEC. As many TTPs memebers took allegiance to khwarjis so it is now to convince IEA to fight TTPs.

@The Eagle @Foxtrot Alpha @Meengla @Falconless

 

[Deltadart]

The thread is about a petition or informing the government in anyway to change the name of ISIS in the media world. Why we call it "Islamic state". If the world can change the Indian variant as Delta variant, then Pak media at least change its name in news, papers and press releases.

Call them Khawarji, baghi, tagooti, etc.

Sir @ghazi52 said that it came on the same day that several countries ended their evacuation efforts. Also, Taliban were busy fighting Masood in Panjshir that kept them occupied.

So Pak and Int community should help Taliban to quickly form the inclusive government. Int community should help Taliban to fight the Khwarjis. Once, all factions agreed, Pak and Int community should support central forces against any faction so that that they don't get weak/distracted against Khwarjis.

Pakistan at least should do that openly so that Khwarjis don't get hold in Afghanistan and becoem a threat to Pak and CPEC. As many TTPs memebers took allegiance to khwarjis so it is now to convince IEA to fight TTPs.

@The Eagle @Foxtrot Alpha @Meengla @Falconless

This should be our game plan to eliminate terrorists of all sorts that target Pakistan and other friendly countries. However, we must reserve our wrath for the **** sponsored terrorists. They must be hunted down along with their backers in Afghanistan without mercy.

An inclusive afghan national government must be allowed to be created and sustained with the help of the regional and global powers.

 

[Falconless]

Got tagged in a thread, does that mean I’m famous now?

 

[Goenitz]

Got tagged in a thread, does that mean I’m famous now?

Short term famous
Just saw some comments so thought u might be interested.
On topic: Either US now totally fight Khawarji in Afghanistan or just support Pak and IEA to fight them. PAk and IEA mustn't allow drones type thing in Afghanistan. It will create more recruitment for terrorists.

 

[Falconless]

The Taliban and Americans now have a common enemy, I suspect formal recognition and financial aid to follow suit.

 

[Bouncer]

Uncle Sam and his military industrial complex badly needs a new villain to sell to the American public and ISIS-K is the next buzzword that'll shape American foreign policy and presidential elections.

We (Pak media, establishment) can try to change the name/narrative but it will it'll be like trying to piss on a tornado. IEA better get their shit together soon. Another attack on foreigners in Kabul and we might see some radical actions by America.

 

[Riz]

Pak should prepaid for worst propaganda here from US and its puppets, they can use drones or can bomb any random location inside pak to start the blame game again

 

[Imran Khan]

why badin copying asif ghafoor

 

[Goenitz]

Pakistan should realise world of its betrayal/non-cooperation etc
1. We didn't charge NATO trucks passing through Pakistan but just handling fee at the port. Remember, Tajikistan charges 1500-1600$ per truck. Pakistan just thought and didn't enforce even after Salala attack.
2. We provided them free best advisory for the Afghan culture/political system. Their think tanks failed to provide them this valuable input.
3. We provided air bases.
4. We helped them capturing many Al-Qaedah commanders.
5. We suffered 80k casualties.

In return, US had sanctioned its weapons and weapons from Turkey. They have prevented the sale of Zulus, which can be helpful to ease of burden on Cobras so that cobras can be used against TTP, ISIS-K.

So the US is not serious on war on terror. Look at this chart. What they promised and what they have delivered.

Plus we were blamed despite our suffering. This is clear and open victim blaming at country level
@Hassan Guy @Baba Google

 

[LeGenD]

Uncle Sam and his military industrial complex badly needs a new villain to sell to the American public and ISIS-K is the next buzzword that'll shape American foreign policy and presidential elections.

We (Pak media, establishment) can try to change the name/narrative but it will it'll be like trying to piss on a tornado. IEA better get their shit together soon. Another attack on foreigners in Kabul and we might see some radical actions by America.

TTP founded ISIS-K in 2015 after death of Mullah Omar and Pakistani Operation Zarb-e-Azm to liberate Warziristan from militants.

Islamic State Khorasan (IS-K) | Terrorism Backgrounders | CSIS

TNT Terrorism Backgrounder

www.csis.org

This movement was overshadowed by the Afghan Civil War (Afghan Taliban vs. US-backed Afghan government). Pakistan brought both Afghan Taliban and USA to the negotiation table to help stop Afghan Civil War.

ISIS-K is back in the scene now and unfinished business.

 

[Goenitz]

@Blacklight @Zaki

I argued here that the US was not serious about WoT. They let ISIS grow, and didn't help Pak militarily or economically to fight TTP and ISIS. They preferred Indian policy which has drained US.

Despite losses to our economy and of our people, the US and NATO blamed Pakistan for their failure. This is the world's biggest victim blaming.

@VCheng

 

[VCheng]

Despite losses to our economy and of our people, the US and NATO blamed Pakistan for their failure. This is the world's biggest victim blaming.

And yet I was right that both USA and Pakistan will find a way to work together for mutual benefits, as we can already see in the aftermath of this atrocity.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

An inclusive afghan national government must be allowed to be created and sustained with the help of the regional and global powers.

if that inclusive government has likes of Amerullah Saleh and Moheeb ullah then we can rule out any cooperation from Afghanistan in eliminating Pakistan specific terrorists.

 

[Goenitz]

And yet I was right that both USA and Pakistan will find a way to work together for mutual benefits, as we can already see in the aftermath of this atrocity.

That is the need. I just want to see the realisation that neither Pak, nor China and nor US alone can battle terrorism. Regions grow together. Like the US is negotiating with Taliban, it should negotiate with China about trade, SC sea boundaries, Taiwan issue etc. May be China will not bulge on Taiwan, but rest of the issues are solvable. Similarly, Iran peace deal must be sorted.

In the end we should all work together. Imagine a prosperous and peaceful Iraq, Iran and Syria like gulf or less. It could have provided millions of job. All this war torn region cna be avoided if west had preferred talks over war.

Rail road links from gulf to Pakistan then to CPEC and India wd have created a marvellous situation for everybody.

 

[VCheng]

In the end we should all work together.

And we all will, as I have so many times, according to respective national interests, as always happens in international geopolitics.