ISIS attacks Turkish Army on Syrian Border [T-155 destroyed]

[[TR]AHMET]

i never heard n see ISIS attack by ATGM againist SAA or other forces..I think Some
countries must have given ISIS ATGMs to use againist Turkey..

Of course they have but this time different, it looks like they have good coordinations also have intelligents, i think they wanna take us into Syria, that is mean some countries has some plans on Turkey, just we have to be carrefull while taking a step on Syria.


Deash is not a normal organization a lot of countries have controls on deash, so those countries use it for their national interests to realize their plans. also those countries very unconforable about Turkey which has got plans on Syria. If we reliaze our own plan on syria we can change all balances at the region, that is the matter.

 

[ptldM3]

Why training in Turkey and not Iraq or Syria where they have free hand?
You can force anyone to say anything in captivity, it has zero credibility, there are thousand of claims but zero evidence so far regarding Turkey-Isis, even opposite to this isis have been actively attacking since last year and Turkey attacked isis two years ago already with T-155 (confirmed by isis twitter account).

It must be a big conspiracy that every time a foreign ISIS fighter is captured that said fighter always has a similar story no matter who captured said fighter. Most ISIS and all other scum such as "rebels" cross from the Turkish border.

Even the US told Turkey to control their border. Everyone knows by now where foreign fighters come from but just for your sake if they don't come from Turkey then how do they get to Syria? Teleportation? Magic?

As for your training question, it makes more sense to train in Turkey and be ready to fight then cross over from Turkey without any skills. Or in other words many ISIS fighters will be killed by the time they reach their training camps in Syria.





http://www.businessinsider.com/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7


A US-led raid on the compound housing the Islamic State's "chief financial officer" produced evidence that Turkish officials directly dealt with ranking ISIS members



In November, a former ISIS member told Newsweek that the group was essentially given free rein by Turkey's army.

"ISIS commanders told us to fear nothing at all because there was full cooperation with the Turks," the fighter said. "ISIS saw the Turkish army as its ally especially when it came to attacking the Kurds in Syria."

 

[Timur]

its time for isis haters to stick together with isis and be happy in ordor to hate the isis supporter turkey..

It was your gov that kept sending arms into Syria and allowed IS members from all over the world into Syria. Those that fired the ATGM likely passed through Turkey to enter Syria, they were allowed in by a certain moron whose named erdogan.

Here the undeniable truth

Biggest maron of the world..

You the ignorant guy in Netherlands the one from Iraq who got there and stays there as a useless keyboard worrier (not warrior ) leaving his country alone to live in a country that is also responsible for the wars that happened in your country.. We can call you traitor or the worst of your country..

You may never thought about the ones who came from Netherlands to Iraq you may never blamed them on it.. Why? You like them that's the reason

You never blame maroc Arabs who are mostly behind Europe attacks and rapings but your ignorant mind blames a country wich is also not capable of smuggling etc on its borders.. Maybe you don't know that our terrain is not flat like your beloved Netherland or the Iraqi desert

Regards to your running away mentality in Iraq wich gave the Daesh all good weapons maybe you should not have run away and be a man and fight you won't win against Daesh with you keyboard skills?

 

[[TR]AHMET]

It must be a big conspiracy that every time a foreign ISIS fighter is captured that said fighter always has a similar story no matter who captured said fighter. Most ISIS and all other scum such as "rebels" cross from the Turkish border.

Even the US told Turkey to control their border. Everyone knows by now where foreign fighters come from but just for your sake if they don't come from Turkey then how do they get to Syria? Teleportation? Magic?

As for your training question, it makes more sense to train in Turkey and be ready to fight then cross over from Turkey without any skills. Or in other words many ISIS fighters will be killed by the time they reach their training camps in Syria.





http://www.businessinsider.com/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7


A US-led raid on the compound housing the Islamic State's "chief financial officer" produced evidence that Turkish officials directly dealt with ranking ISIS members



In November, a former ISIS member told Newsweek that the group was essentially given free rein by Turkey's army.

"ISIS commanders told us to fear nothing at all because there was full cooperation with the Turks," the fighter said. "ISIS saw the Turkish army as its ally especially when it came to attacking the Kurds in Syria."

Do you think that we are small kid? Russia's detect and reviews are really so idiotic and simple, Deash is different group, Nusra different and Free Syrian Army are different dont you know this!! Deash persecution people like you american and bassar Asad this group allready has used by israel usa germany uk etc. for their future plans on Syria

Al nusra related with Al-qaide but they are not cutting people like Deash, but also they are not trustable because it has some connections with al-qaide, it is mean they also have used by some countries, btw a lot of Free syrian army groups (local people) liaise with al-nusra and they fighting against PYD, Deash, Assad, Russia etc. that is mean they are different than deash

Free Syrian Army complately local group of Syria which opposite of bassar assad, they persecution by Deash, PYD, Bassar Assad, Iran and Russia.

Other side there is another separatist group like Deash name is PYD which supported by Russia, Israel, Germany and USA etc. and they wanna create a new state name is kurdistan at north of Syria which will be against Turkey and they will support israel at the ME.

Now, you have blamed us to support deash but you confuse that Free syrian army is not deash ! We never said we dont support FSA we allways said that we support FSA but we are against Deash as well.

Second point, we have very long border with Syria so impossible to block every transition, we allmost arrest deash members everyday at Turkey or killing them. Other side a lot of deash members transition from Iraq and lebanon and very easy to use Iraq to go Syria.

Very easy to blame someone with without evidence but also you are responsible which you done. Turkey never killed unarmed people at Syria but Russia have killed, Turkey never supported terrorists organizations or dictators but Russia support bassar assad and PYD terrorists. Turkey support Syrian people to help get back their own independence but Russia wanna establish a military naval port at Syria.

Now you cant come and blame us without and evidence while you are in sink into the dirt!

 

[era_shield]

It must be a big conspiracy that every time a foreign ISIS fighter is captured that said fighter always has a similar story no matter who captured said fighter. Most ISIS and all other scum such as "rebels" cross from the Turkish border.

Even the US told Turkey to control their border. Everyone knows by now where foreign fighters come from but just for your sake if they don't come from Turkey then how do they get to Syria? Teleportation? Magic?

As for your training question, it makes more sense to train in Turkey and be ready to fight then cross over from Turkey without any skills. Or in other words many ISIS fighters will be killed by the time they reach their training camps in Syria.





http://www.businessinsider.com/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7


A US-led raid on the compound housing the Islamic State's "chief financial officer" produced evidence that Turkish officials directly dealt with ranking ISIS members



In November, a former ISIS member told Newsweek that the group was essentially given free rein by Turkey's army.

"ISIS commanders told us to fear nothing at all because there was full cooperation with the Turks," the fighter said. "ISIS saw the Turkish army as its ally especially when it came to attacking the Kurds in Syria."

So you trust ISIS members but not common sense, nor all the evidence that shows ISIS gets most of its money from selling oil to locals on the black market and to Putin's genocidal murderer friend Assad? Here are some actual credible sources here and here for you to educate yourself. Don't let your butthurt at us shooting down your plane impede your rational thinking. The only "evidence" you have are stories from low credibility sources like businessinsider or others which are reports from anonymous sources. It's nothing but propaganda. It doesn't surprise me that a Russian can't tell propaganda from real news, since all you ever see is propaganda. Just yesterday when Assad bombed that hospital the Russian media reported that the rebels did it. It would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious tragedy. At this point only a fool would believe Turkey and ISIS are cooperating in any way. They aren't cooperating, they're at war. Everyone now realises this except you. Continue to believe it if you want, you're just making a fool of yourself.

 

[ptldM3]

Do you think that we are small kid? Russia's detect and reviews are really so idiotic and simple,

Your English is idiotic and simple and I'm not a kid, I'm probably older then you. I am not here to debate the ethics of the FSA because they are on the same level as ISIS so don't expect this conversation to go much further because you won't change my mind. The argument is about ISIS fighters crossing from Turkey. The US, Russia, Iraq, Syria, and Iran have all acknowledged that foreign ISIS fighters cross over from Turkey even countless ISIS fighters admit the same thing.

Deash is different group, Nusra different and Free Syrian Army are different dont you know this!!

Right, so what is the difference between the so called FSA and ISIS? There are videos all over the Internet of FSA committing war crimes such as executing civilians, abusing, beating and threatening to kill prisoners of war, eating organs ect. Not to mention how the FSA shell residential areas and change alligiance to various other groups such as ISIS Al-Nusra, ect.

Deash persecution people like you american and bassar Asad this group allready has used by israel usa germane uk etc. for their future plans on Syria

And the FSA does not? Your golden boys, the FSA shells Christian towns because those towns refuse the let the plague that is the FSA enter their town and turn it into rubble. The FSA is also known to destroy churches and descecrate religious symbols.

Free Syrian Army complately local group of Syria which opposite of bassar assad, they persecution by Deash, PYD, Bassar Assad, Iran and Russia.

Many FSA fighters are not even Syrian nor are they an "army". Most normal armies conduct background checks and eliminate criminals, people with mental issues, radicals and the plain dumb. The FSA will except any degenerate reject that is why so many defect to ISIS.

Now, you have blamed us to support deash but you confuse that Free syrian army is not deash ! We never said we dont support FSA we allways said that we support FSA but we are against Deash as well.

Turkey supports all terrorist scum apparently.

Second point, we have very long border with Syria so impossible to block every transition, we allmost arrest deash members everyday at Turkey or killing them. Other side a lot of deash members transition from Iraq and lebanon and very easy to use Iraq to go Syria.

Turkey is too busy bombing the Kurds. Recently Turkey has arrested ISIS but only because of the attacks on Turkish soil.

Very easy to blame someone with without evidence but also you are responsible which you done.

Did you not read the link I gave, Turkey has supported ISIS many countries have acknowledged it.

Turkey never killed unarmed people at Syria but Russia have killed,

Right, that artillery that Turkey has been using to level towns and villages never killed civilians? Must be magic bombs.

Turkey never supported terrorists organizations or dictators but Russia support bassar assad and PYD terrorists.

Of course turkey supports terrorists and dictators. Erdogan loves the Saudi dictators. Saudi Arabia is a country that executed pro democracy protesters including teenagers. Yet the hypocrites in Saudi Arabia are telling Assad to step down. All the while Saudi Arabia executes people for leaving their religion not to mention many other "crimes" such as adultry is punishable by death (beheading). Moreover, churches, and temples are illegal in Saudi Arabia.

So who is the dictator? Assad supports all minorities and religions, and he does not enforce Sharia like Saudi Arabia and ISIS, nor does he arrest people for "insulting" him like Erdogan.

So you trust ISIS members but not common sense, nor all the evidence that shows ISIS gets most of its money from selling oil to locals on the black market and to Putin's genocidal murderer friend Assad? Here are some actual credible sources here and here for you to educate yourself. Don't let your butthurt at us shooting down your plane impede your rational thinking. The only "evidence" you have are stories from low credibility sources like businessinsider or others which are reports from anonymous sources. It's nothing but propaganda. It doesn't surprise me that a Russian can't tell propaganda from real news, since all you ever see is propaganda. Just yesterday when Assad bombed that hospital the Russian media reported that the rebels did it. It would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious tragedy. At this point only a fool would believe Turkey and ISIS are cooperating in any way. They aren't cooperating, they're at war. Everyone now realises this except you. Continue to believe it if you want, you're just making a fool of yourself.

I said everything I wanted to in the above post, you are obviously angry and as such are bringing in topics such as Isis oil trade, this might be a surprise to you but I never even mentioned Isis oil. I was talking about Isis fighters crossing from the Turkish border. Many countries have acknowledged that fact, even many Isis members acknowledge it. Your argument is futile.

 

[bsruzm]

What is funny is your lack of critical thinking skills.

Enjoy your critical thinking skills:

I find it amusing that you are making threats on behalf of the Turkish Air Force as if you are someone of power or authority.

I don't think that you are in a position to claim that Turkey will shoot down Russian aircraft.

Do you find it funny and amusing still? Get lost, especially when each terrorist scum on earth, holds a Russian AK-47.

 

[madmusti]

The ATGM´s are from Syrian Inventory nothing else.

 

[telkon]

It was your gov that kept sending arms into Syria and allowed IS members from all over the world into Syria. Those that fired the ATGM likely passed through Turkey to enter Syria, they were allowed in by a certain moron whose named erdogan.

Don't hide behind excuses. If you were man enough, you wouldn't let them capture your lands so easily. FFS they captured mosul in a single day. basically with this war both iraqi and syrian arabs proved they're cowards.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Your English is idiotic and simple and I'm not a kid, I'm probably older then you. I am not here to debate the ethics of the FSA because they are on the same level as ISIS so don't expect this conversation to go much further because you won't change my mind. The argument is about ISIS fighters crossing from Turkey. The US, Russia, Iraq, Syria, and Iran have all acknowledged that foreign ISIS fighters cross over from Turkey even countless ISIS fighters admit the same thing.












Right, so what is the difference between the so called FSA and ISIS? There are videos all over the Internet of FSA committing war crimes such as executing civilians, abusing, beating and threatening to kill prisoners of war, eating organs ect. Not to mention how the FSA shell residential areas and change alligiance to various other groups such as ISIS Al-Nusra, ect.










And the FSA does not? Your golden boys, the FSA shells Christian towns because those towns refuse the let the plague that is the FSA enter their town and turn it into rubble. The FSA is also known to destroy churches and descecrate religious symbols.











Many FSA fighters are not even Syrian nor are they an "army". Most normal armies conduct background checks and eliminate criminals, people with mental issues, radicals and the plain dumb. The FSA will except any degenerate reject that is why so many defect to ISIS.










Turkey supports all terrorist scum apparently.









Turkey is too busy bombing the Kurds. Recently Turkey has arrested ISIS but only because of the attacks on Turkish soil.












Did you not read the link I gave, Turkey has supported ISIS many countries have acknowledged it.









Right, that artillery that Turkey has been using to level towns and villages never killed civilians? Must be magic bombs.












Of course turkey supports terrorists and dictators. Erdogan loves the Saudi dictators. Saudi Arabia is a country that executed pro democracy protesters including teenagers. Yet the hypocrites in Saudi Arabia are telling Assad to step down. All the while Saudi Arabia executes people for leaving their religion not to mention many other "crimes" such as adultry is punishable by death (beheading). Moreover, churches, and temples are illegal in Saudi Arabia.

So who is the dictator? Assad supports all minorities and religions, and he does not enforce Sharia like Saudi Arabia and ISIS, nor does he arrest people for "insulting" him like Erdogan.




I said everything I wanted to in the above post, you are obviously angry and as such are bringing in topics such as Isis oil trade, this might be a surprise to you but I never even mentioned Isis oil. I was talking about Isis fighters crossing from the Turkish border. Many countries have acknowledged that fact, even many Isis members acknowledge it. Your argument is futile.

Then keep you obsession and keep slience. Pour your obsessions elsewhere.

 

[ptldM3]

Enjoy your critical thinking skills:

Do you find it funny and amusing still? Get lost, especially when each terrorist scum on earth, holds a Russian AK-47.

you're obviously angry. Nothing amusing about a cowardly ambush but what comes around goes around. Turkish jets have been shot down by the Greeks and Syrians, Turkish howitzers, tanks, and armored columns have all been attacked.

The Turks are relegated to firing artillery into Syria, Turkish aircraft are not daring to cross into Syria like they do in Iraq.


Also many AK-47s are not Russian but Chinese, Polish, Bulgarian, and Romanian. And pretty much all that are interorist hands are the result of the firearm being stolen or in the case of Afghanistan in the 1980s given to terrorists by the west and gulf states.

 

[haviZsultan]

Turkey and KSA are increasingly seeing what it is to have a terrorist threat over your head and it is not pleasant. I think we muslims need to think about our ways and our conservative thinking critically. We can blame the west all we want but it is us muslims blowing things up and killing innocent people mostly from our own religion. Ijtehad should be a compulsory feature in Muslim lands and the authority of the common mullahs should be eroded. We need to understand the benefits of a secular and liberal setup.

 

[bsruzm]

Nothing amusing about a cowardly ambush but what comes around goes around. Turkish howitzers, tanks, and armored columns have all been attacked.

The guy openly posts in favor of terrorism, comparing it to a punishment of an immoral airspace violation so after reading these, I don't know what cowardly is. Do not waste your time, people.

 

[xenon54 out]

It must be a big conspiracy that every time a foreign ISIS fighter is captured that said fighter always has a similar story no matter who captured said fighter. Most ISIS and all other scum such as "rebels" cross from the Turkish border.

Even the US told Turkey to control their border. Everyone knows by now where foreign fighters come from but just for your sake if they don't come from Turkey then how do they get to Syria? Teleportation? Magic?

Most do cross from Turkey, disguised as tourists, its hard to check every 40 million or so tourist.
Also a lot from Russia joined isis why didnt Russia stop them if its that easy?

As for your training question, it makes more sense to train in Turkey and be ready to fight then cross over from Turkey without any skills. Or in other words many ISIS fighters will be killed by the time they reach their training camps in Syria.

The population density in Turkey is a lot higher than Iraq and Syria, any such activity would have been discovered, besides there is plenty of empty area in booth of those countries where its known that there are isis camps,
Not to meantion SE Turkey is inhabited by Kurds you know isis arch enemy, what you say makes absolutely no sense.

As for the rest its still claim you guys just cant present hard proofs for your claims all you do is posting ''my frieds oncles sons heard this and that'' stlye ''evidences''.
Says a lot...

 

[ptldM3]

The guy openly posts in favor of terrorism, comparing it to a punishment of an immoral airspace violation so after reading these, I don't know cowardly is. Do not waste your time, people.

Don't make me laugh. You were the one that got emotional and started getting personal by posting a picture of a downed aircraft in which 2 people died. If the SU-24 was an "emoral airspace violation" then what do you call Turkish aircraft that violated Greek airspace over 2000 times in a year? Or Turkish aircraft that violated Syrian and Iraqi airspace?

I never supported terrorism, I used your same tactic, you post pictures of a down Russian aircraft I can post pictures of downed Turkish aircraft and destroyed vehicles. If you act like an adult and debate me fairly then I will do the same, act like an emotional kid then get treated like one.