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ISI cultivated Taliban to counter Indian action against Pakistan: Musharraf

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Former military ruler Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf has called for an end to militant proxies in neighbouring Afghanistan, said a report published on The Guardian.

In the interview, Musharraf admitted that during his tenure as the head of state, Pakistan had tried to undermine the government of former Afghan president Hamid Karzai because Karzai had helped "India stab Pakistan in the back".

However, the former army chief was of the view that the time had come to fully cooperate with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai who he believed was the last hope for peace in the region.

“In President Karzai’s times, yes, indeed, he was damaging Pakistan and therefore we were working against his interest. Obviously we had to protect our own interest,” Musharraf said.

“But now President Ashraf Ghani has come and he is trying to restore balance in Afghanistan. We must totally cooperate with him.”

During his first few months in office, the Afghan president has sought to improve ties with Pakistan. Ghani not only called off a weapons deal with India, but also sent troops to fight against anti-Pakistan militant groups in eastern Afghanistan. The arrival of six Afghan army cadets in Pakistan for training in a sign of increased cooperation was the most welcome development for Musharraf.

Take a look: Afghan army cadets arrive in Pakistan for training

Pakistan first offered to train Afghan forces back in 2010, but then Afghan president Hamid Karzai had dismissed the offer as a non-starter till Pakistan rebuilt confidence by addressing Kabul’s concerns about its involvement with militants. Instead, Karzai sent cadets to India, where the retired army general believes they were “indoctrinated” against Pakistan.

Musharraf made repeated allusions at what is now widely accepted among diplomats and analysts: that the nominal western ally assisted both Nato forces in Afghanistan and the Taliban they were fighting against in a bid to counter the perceived influence of India.

“Pakistan had its own proxies, India had its proxies, which is unhealthy. I do admit this, it is most unhealthy. It is not in favour of Afghanistan, or Pakistan or India. It must stop,” he said.

ISI spies cultivated Taliban, says Musharraf
The former army chief said spies in Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) had given birth to the Taliban after 2001 because the government of Ghani's predecessor had an overwhelming number of non-Pashtuns and officials who were said to favour India.

“Obviously we were looking for some groups to counter this Indian action against Pakistan,” he said. “That is where the intelligence work comes in. Intelligence being in contact with Taliban groups. Definitely they were in contact, and they should be.”

Pakistan's powerful military remains deeply wary of India. The two countries have fought three wars and came close to a fourth in 2001. The Himalayan region of Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since independence in 1947.

Examine: Musharraf warns of proxy war with India in Afghanistan

Insisting that he does not loathe India, Musharraf, however, expressed his bitterness over what he called western bias towards Pakistan's arch rival.

“India is the greatest democracy, promoter of human rights and democratic culture’? All bullshit,” he said. “There is no human rights. The religion itself is anti-human rights. In the rural areas, if even the shadow of an untouchable goes on a pandit, that man can be killed.”

Undeterred in his stance that India, through its Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), supports terrorists in Balochistan and tribal areas to vanquish Pakistan, the former president said: “The RAW of India, the ISI of Pakistan have always been fighting against each other since our independence. That is how it continued, it continues now also...It must stop, but it can only stop when leaderships on both sides show the will to resolve disputes and stop confrontation in favour of compromise and accommodation.”

I'm very proud of the army: Musharraf
The former army strongman came back to Pakistan in March 2013 after four years of self-imposed exile to run in the May general election, vowing to “save” the country from Taliban violence and economic ruin.

But he was barred from running in the election, and was then put under house arrest and hit with numerous criminal cases — including treason, the first former army chief to face the charge.

Despite the setbacks, he said he has no regrets about returning and says that he has the army to thank. “I’m very proud of my institution. Whatever they are doing to help me, to protect the honour and dignity of their ex-chief, I’m proud of that,” he said.


ISI cultivated Taliban to counter Indian action against Pakistan: Musharraf - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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The former army chief said spies in Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) had given birth to the Taliban after 2001 because the government of Ghani's predecessor had an overwhelming number of non-Pashtuns and officials who were said to favour India.

“India is the greatest democracy, promoter of human rights and democratic culture’? All bullshit,” he said. “There is no human rights. The religion itself is anti-human rights. In the rural areas, if even the shadow of an untouchable goes on a pandit, that man can be killed.”

Undeterred in his stance that India, through its Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), supports terrorists in Balochistan and tribal areas to vanquish Pakistan, the former president said: “The RAW of India, the ISI of Pakistan have always been fighting against each other since our independence


Da faq. And we are supposed to trust the Pakistani leadership. Karma is a b!tch General (retd). You should be charged criminally for aiding and abetting the formation of your Taliban which is now burning up Pakistan :undecided:
 
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LOL. Suck it up folks! Now even that great "patriot" Musharraf is admitting that ISI cultivated Taliban!
Those who were asking me of proof for this yesterday can run along on and kindly ask Musharraf for evidence! :D
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now these thing will happned,
1. People who still in deninal mode (by igorance or by delibrate casue ) IGNORE it.
2. you are called as RAW agent
3. you are called as anti pakistani
4. People will say it WESTs propaganda.. how can muslim kill muslim ,, not possible.. so taliban to kill muslim NO
5. we proud of Taliban (no ttp) till it hits india
6. taliban is freedom figter (those terrrost fighting agiant india) but other who fight with pak estabhlsmet are (ttp) are terrorist
 
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Yes good for Pakistan . For next 50 years (only god knows how much longer than that) Pakistan will be protected by divine people like ISIS Taliban LeT JUD etc. Nice future ahead bit any way India no more give a crap about internal issue of other countries . We are focusing on becoming a superpower . When we do that our neighbour trying to stop it somehow. But end of the day others fate is decided themselves .No one can stop .

Please make Mr.Mushu as PM or President of Pakistan . Right Time . I also want to know what both countries are capable of doing .
 
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Another retd. Gernail opens his big mouth.well,good for us,they r doing RAWs work.
N Pakistanis say they r victims of terrorism....
 
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LOL. Suck it up folks! Now even that great "patriot" Musharraf is admitting that ISI cultivated Taliban!
Those who were asking me of proof for this yesterday can run along on and kindly ask Musharraf for evidence! :D

Make sure u hide u r identity while u visit pakistan ... u wl be skinned alive for speaking the truth...:enjoy:
 
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LOL. Suck it up folks! Now even that great "patriot" Musharraf is admitting that ISI cultivated Taliban!
Those who were asking me of proof for this yesterday can run along on and kindly ask Musharraf for evidence! :D

Those who challenged you also knew the facts but they were merely following the stance by compulsion of being Pakistanis....
We have plenty of other accounts which suggest complicit nature of ISI .....
 
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Wild animals in the backyard. The general is now even admitting to it. And Pakistani army brats on the forum are lapping it up :)
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now these thing will happned,
1. People who still in deninal mode (by igorance or by delibrate casue ) IGNORE it.
2. you are called as RAW agent
3. you are called as anti pakistani
4. People will say it WESTs propaganda.. how can muslim kill muslim ,, not possible.. so taliban to kill muslim NO
5. we proud of Taliban (no ttp) till it hits india
6. taliban is freedom figter (those terrrost fighting agiant india) but other who fight with pak estabhlsmet are (ttp) are terrorist
Another retd. Gernail opens his big mouth.well,good for us,they r doing RAWs work.
N Pakistanis say they r victims of terrorism....
Make sure u hide u r identity while u visit pakistan ... u wl be skinned alive for speaking the truth...:enjoy:

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Those who challenged you also knew the facts but they were merely following the stance by compulsion of being Pakistanis....
We have plenty of other accounts which suggest complicit nature of ISI .....

Such a shameful attitude and willful ignorance of Indian groups spreading terror in Pakistan in whose reaction Pakistan propped up certain groups to counter them.

LOL. Suck it up folks! Now even that great "patriot" Musharraf is admitting that ISI cultivated Taliban!
Those who were asking me of proof for this yesterday can run along on and kindly ask Musharraf for evidence! :D

So no condemnation Indian terrorism in pakistan?
 
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Such a shameful attitude and willful ignorance of Indian groups spreading terror in Pakistan in whose reaction Pakistan propped up certain groups to counter them.
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Shame
you should be shamful..
you ex army head and presidnt said we gave taliban.. which haunts 3 countries innocent people ..for what you countries some game
shame yourself ..
you are responsible for destruction not we
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ignorace..
you this post itself exa of ignorace ..
what more you wan to say..
musshraf is lying ? taliban by india ?
whos ignorace is it ?
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Spredding terror
i said in another post
DG ISPR ALLUDED india is cause of terror in pak
if you have so much proof that too PA -DG ispr
PA and ISI -- you are anti pakistani as despite having proof you keep in locker...
or
you are lier .. as you dont have any . so cant show anyhing
we had proof ..26/11 we shoed in to world ..do it if india did that crime ..
its yoiur duty ...do make any one accoutbale at world forum with proof .. but pak never did
reasosn you tel me
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we condem every act of terrorisam
and mostly we get by those terrrost who come from you own nation
but not vice a versa
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Another retd. Gernail opens his big mouth.well,good for us,they r doing RAWs work.
N Pakistanis say they r victims of terrorism....

Even without his revelation ppl of Pakistan themselves n outside world do know how brutally ISI were involved in Afghanistan especially during soviet invasion....
 
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Such a shameful attitude and willful ignorance of Indian groups spreading terror in Pakistan in whose reaction Pakistan propped up certain groups to counter them.


So no condemnation Indian terrorism in pakistan?

Yeah, it is always the poor victim Pakistan.
 
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Shame
you should be shamful..
you ex army head and presidnt said we gave taliban.. which haunts 3 countries innocent people ..for what you countries some game
shame yourself ..
you are responsible for destruction not we
----
ignorace..
you this post itself exa of ignorace ..
what more you wan to say..
musshraf is lying ? taliban by india ?
whos ignorace is it ?
----
Spredding terror
i said in another post
DG ISPR ALLUDED india is cause of terror in pak
if you have so much proof that too PA -DG ispr
PA and ISI -- you are anti pakistani as despite having proof you keep in locker...
or
you are lier .. as you dont have any . so cant show anyhing
we had proof ..26/11 we shoed in to world ..do it if india did that crime ..
its yoiur duty ...do make any one accoutbale at world forum with proof .. but pak never did
reasosn you tel me

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Pakistan provided proof to USA. Common sense which is not so common in indians now a days who doesn't even know how proxy wars are conducted. who doesn't even understand the Intel and proofs of Proxy wars are kept intact so the assets collecting intel and proofs in Afghanistan would be severely compromised.


Let's start with some history lessons, since you are so ignorant, you don't even know When Pakistan started it's campaign of taliban support. India started financing Baloch groups in 2005, we started our campaign in 2006. It's shameful India is causing destruction in Pakistan and indians are cheerleading and putting blame on pakistan for this destruction. Lanat on those who did that.

Then in your ignorance, you forgot if Indian hadnot started this whole terror financing campaign, Pakistan would not have supported Taliban in first place. So yes it was your fault.
 
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Such a shameful attitude and willful ignorance of Indian groups spreading terror in Pakistan in whose reaction Pakistan propped up certain groups to counter them.



So no condemnation Indian terrorism in pakistan?

Yes whoever shows you mirror is shameful......
Nor supporting any terrorism spread by raw.... I care more for innocent precious human life .....
 
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