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The US Government has informed a New York court that the ISI and its former director generals "enjoy immunity" in the case related to 26/11 filed by the relatives of victims of the Mumbai terror attack and asked Pakistan to dismantle LeT and support India's efforts to counter terrorist threat.

"In the view of the United States, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) is entitled to immunity because it is part of a foreign state within the meaning of the FSIA (Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act)," Stuart Delery, the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General told a federal court in New York on December 17 in a submission on a case filed by relatives and family members of the American victims of the Mumbai terrorist attacks.

"Furthermore, the Department of State has determined that former Director Generals Ahmed Shuja Pasha and Nadeem Taj are immune because plaintiffs' allegations relate to acts that these defendants allegedly took in their official capacities as directors of an entity that is undeniably a fundamental part of the Government of Pakistan," Delery said in his 12-page affidavit.

"Because foreign sovereign immunity and foreign official immunity provide an adequate basis upon which to dispose of this case with respect to the ISI and former Directors General Pasha and Taj, the United States takes no position on the political question doctrine issues that are also presented in this case," the affidavit says in its footnote in response to the court case filed by American survivors of the Mumbai terrorist attack.

Claiming that the ISI of Pakistan was involved in the planning and execution of the
Mumbai terrorist attack, these American survivor of 26/11 and family members of the victims had filed a case against the ISI chiefs, Ahmed Shuja Pasha, Nadeem Taj and its other officials, besides Lashkar-e-Taiba leaders, Mohammed Hafiz Saeed; Zaki ur Rahman, Sajid Mir and Azam Cheema.

On 26 November, 2008 in Mumbai, terrorists did well coordinated shooting and bombing attacks in which 166 people, including six Americans, were killed and 308 others wounded.

In fact as many as four identical court cases were filed including one by Linda Ragsdale, on August 12. A resident of Tennessee, Ragsdale was shot in her back by one of the LeT terrorist at the Oberoi Trident hotel in Mumbai. She, however, survived that attack.

"In making this immunity determination, the United States emphasizes that it expresses no view on the merits of plaintiffs' claims.

The United States strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in Mumbai and continues to believe that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan must take steps to dismantle Lashkar-e-Taiba and to support India’s efforts to counter this terrorist threat," the affidavit said.

The US Government argues that in its view FSIA requires that the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate of Pakistan be accorded immunity from this civil suit because the ISI is a fundamental part of the Government of Pakistan itself and no exception to immunity applies.

"Moreover, the Department of State has determined that the former Director Generals of the ISI, Ahmed Shuja Pasha and Nadeem Taj, enjoy immunity, a determination that is not subject to judicial review. In making this determination, the United States emphasizes that it expresses no view on the merits of plaintiffs' claims," the affidavit said.

The American relatives and victims of Mumbai terrorist attacks in their filings had alleged that the ISI controlled and coordinated the terrorist attacks and provided critical planning and material support to the attackers.

They also contend that former Directors General Pasha and Taj provided material support and resources to the attackers, recruited participants and planned the attacks. As such the American survivors and relatives of the victim had sought compensatory and punitive damages.

Lawyers of ISI and its directors had argued that they enjoy immunity in the case. It was on April 23 this year that the court had asked the US Government to clarify its position. December 17 was the last date for that.

"Under the FSIA, the ISI is immune from suit for the simple reason that it is a fundamental part of the Pakistani government. Under the FSIA, the ISI must be treated as a "foreign state" for purposes of the FSIA and there is no applicable exception to immunity."

"There can be no serious question regarding the ISI's status as a "foreign state" within the meaning of the FSIA. As the Government of Pakistan states, the ISI is part of its government, organized under the Ministry of Defence," it said.

"Although plaintiffs contend that the ISI is not governed or authorized by Pakistani law and is not under the control of the Pakistani government, the United States executive and legislative branches have consistently treated the ISI as part of the Government of Pakistan," the US attorney said.

"The executive branch holds official meetings with representatives of the ISI, issues them diplomatic visas consistent with their status as Pakistani government employees and in all respects recognises the ISI as part of the Government of Pakistan. Congress likewise has specifically recognised that the ISI is part of the Pakistani government," he argued.

"The United States is not aware of any case in which a court has concluded that a component of a foreign state lacks immunity because the foreign state allegedly does not control its actions. Plaintiffs' theory is particularly unusual in the context of an intelligence agency, which, like a foreign ministry or defense ministry, serves a quintessentially sovereign purpose," the attorney said.

The same date the State Department wrote a letter to the Department of Justice notifying of its determination that both Pasha and Taj enjoy immunity in the 26/11 case in a New York court.

"Upon consideration of this matter, and after a full review of the pleadings, the Department of State has determined that Defendants Pasha and Taj are immune from suit in this case. The residual immunity of a former official is based upon that official's conduct and extends only to acts that individual took in an official capacity," Harold Hongju Koh, legal advisor of the State Department said in a letter dated December 17 to Delery.

"As a threshold matter, we note that the Department of State strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. The Department continues to believe that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan must take steps to dismantle Lashkar-e-Taiba and to support India's efforts to counter this terrorist threat. This determination of immunity should not be viewed as expressing any view on the merits of plaintiffs' claims," the State Department legal advisor said.

26/11 trial: ISI cannot be touched, says US
 
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Has the case been dismissed ? US govt is not a party in this case. Is it ?
 
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Its a little funny that Pakistanis are feeling happy and are celebrating that there is a technicality that will save their Spy master from a legal case, not realizing that the fact that their spy master is a defendant in a terrorism case itself should be embarrassment enough.

No one ever dreamed of any actual indictment coming out of this case (considering the case itself is a civil case), but the fact that this case is still going on in a US court where ex Pakistan ISI chief is a co defendant along with a UNSC designated terrorist must be squeamish enough for all self respecting Pakistanis.

There are enough instances where someone somewhere sues a politician of another country for various crimes.. But to be a co defendant in a case with a world known and UNSC labeled terrorist must be real fun for Pasha :D
 
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And the drama queens forever will make an exhibition of them self. :laugh:

like you in exhibitions of troll :lol:

now i dont care for bans or infractions ..there are few who are given free hand and the posted whom i quoted is one of them.
 
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Its a little funny that Pakistanis are feeling happy and are celebrating that there is a technicality that will save their Spy master from a legal case, not realizing that the fact that their spy master is a defendant in a terrorism case itself should be embarrassment enough.

No one ever dreamed of any actual indictment coming out of this case (considering the case itself is a civil case), but the fact that this case is still going on in a US court where ex Pakistan ISI chief is a co defendant along with a UNSC designated terrorist must be squeamish enough for all self respecting Pakistanis.

There are enough instances where someone somewhere sues a politician of another country for various crimes.. But to be a co defendant in a case with a world known and UNSC labeled terrorist must be real fun for Pasha :D


It is the New York court that should be embarrassed to think of even doing this and making themselves look foolish, wasting every ones time, no wonder the US Federal Government stepped in to notify the NY court of how absurd this case is.
 
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It is the New York court that should be embarrassed to think of even doing this and making themselves look foolish, wasting every ones time, no wonder the US Federal Government stepped in to notify the NY court of how absurd this case is.

Fed hasnt stepped in so to say. Its offered an opinion. In USA, the govt can not dictate the merits of a case. This wont end so easy.. Even if the plaintiffs do not win this here, the appeal process will keep dragging on :)

Wait for the plaintiffs lawyers' response to this in next few days..

Interestingly, Fed did not say that it does not have any evidence of ISI's involvement.. but just that Pasha has immunity.. Meaning that even if he is involved in the crime, the US court can not enforce a punishment.. :D
 
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