Is this Internet Era Making Young Generation Arrogant?

[Moonlight]

The title of this thread is a question and I request you all to please participate in poll to this question. Thanks!

So here comes my opinion on this matter. I was always taught to be nice to everyone you come across in life like you all. Also to never use foul language.
Never be arrogant to anyone.
Now with my observation this generation believes, coming across only means ‘meeting or interacting with someone face ho face’. The values and ethical lessons we are being fed with since our childhood also apply to people we interact with online. No?
But I see the opposite. People believe it’s all fine using filthy language and being arrogant on internet.

Literally it hurts to see girls especially Pakistani & Muslim girls cursing online. Using the most filthiest language that even a guy feel awkward reading it.
With my unpopular opinion, girls should not use foul language at all, same goes for the boys too. But I take a bit harsh stance for ladies because they raise generations.
A mother is the first teacher & if a teacher is arrogant what moral values and ethical lessons she has to give to his newborns eventually raising up to a new generation?

In almost every single Snapchat, posts, and comments I see girls very proudly using bad words. Even stupid thing is they whine all the time with typical saying of “don’t judge”. What you expect from people to think when all the time you be using foul words?
Why we are turning to an arrogant generation? I truly feel historical won’t write good for this generation.
What internet has turn us all into? A jungle of human beings?


share your views but please don’t turn it into a troll. Thanks!


@django @Zibago @The Sandman @Hell hound @The Eagle @Kaptaan @saiyan0321 @Well.wisher

 

[saiyan0321]

I would agree and the reason is the mask internet provides. You are completely anonymous, free from criticism and the seals the Norms of society place upon a person . nobody knows who you are so the crop releases their inner self. The true personality. The one they hide. Often this reveals abuse and lies and deception and words and views that shocks you to the core.

Would ever hear a person advocating rape in real life on a respectable gathering of society yet on the internet its is heard far too often? You literally hear views of genocide that nobody would utter in real life. The mask of internet reveals the true self.

In my view, I personally belief your truest personality is not revealed in a society but in isolation. The chains of society keep a person in line but what he is truly like or what he truly believes in is revealed when the chains break and they break when a person is in extreme anger or in isolation and alone and internet provides that anonymous loneliness.

If laws were not there how many would fall into immorality and depravity. A very good number. Its the same thing here.

As for arrogant. Internet has provided a voice to every tom dick and Harry and they speak as if masters in matters yet are ignorant. They carry this arrogance. Kids who have done nothing speak on matters asnif they have spent a life time studying it. They become representatives of people amounting to millions and even billions. This is height of arrogance. I would agree.

@Joe Shearer @hellfire @Nilgiri @Taygibay @WAJsal

I would like to hear from the above as well.

 

[srshkmr]

Well, ofc it does make them arrogant. Because they have a wide range of exposure from pure shitty things to wonderful things on the internet. And yet we chose shit as always.

 

[Hell hound]

The title of this thread is a question and I request you all to please participate in poll to this question. Thanks!

So here comes my opinion on this matter. I was always taught to be nice to everyone you come across in life like you all. Also to never use foul language.
Never be arrogant to anyone.
Now with my observation this generation believes, coming across only means ‘meeting or interacting with someone face ho face’. The values and ethical lessons we are being fed with since our childhood also apply to people we interact with online. No?
But I see the opposite. People believe it’s all fine using filthy language and being arrogant on internet.

Literally it hurts to see girls especially Pakistani & Muslim girls cursing online. Using the most filthiest language that even a guy feel awkward reading it.
With my unpopular opinion, girls should not use foul language at all, same goes for the boys too. But I take a bit harsh stance for ladies because they raise generations.
A mother is the first teacher & if a teacher is arrogant what moral values and ethical lessons she has to give to his newborns eventually raising up to a new generation?

In almost every single Snapchat, posts, and comments I see girls very proudly using bad words. Even stupid thing is they whine all the time with typical saying of “don’t judge”. What you expect from people to think when all the time you be using foul words?
Why we are turning to an arrogant generation? I truly feel historical won’t write good for this generation.
What internet has turn us all into? A jungle of human beings?


share your views but please don’t turn it into a troll. Thanks!


@django @Zibago @The Sandman @Hell hound @The Eagle @Kaptaan @saiyan0321 @Well.wisher

It hasn't made us arrogant just given our generation a platform which makes them more louder than previous generations.
I have seen women older than my grandmother use such extreme language that this generation will go pale in comparison.for those who needs proof aunty gormint isn't an unknown name she isn't from this generation but technology of this generation amplified her voice.
It was always like this we are just noticing it now because of tech/internet.just because we don't hear them doesn't means it isn't there.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I entirely agree that there is a lot of bad behaviour due to the anonymity of the Internet. I would like to think, personally speaking, that my public and private persona do not differ, but someone else has to make that judgement. What I have found out, however, is that when I have a personal conversation with some of the worst behaved, they turn out to be the most polite and charming young people going. In my opinion, therefore, there is a sharp split in personality between our public (anonymous on the Internet) selves, and our private, 'normal' selves. That people behave as they used to in real life, but they became nasty and brutish on the 'net.

There must, theoretically, be some who are as 'difficult' in real life as they are on line, but there has been no opportunity to explore that.

There must be their mirrors, people pleasant in their on line persona, and remaining pleasant in real life. Again, there is no way to verify that.

 

[Lagay Raho]

And many other mental problems
https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/www...e-selfies-sign-narcissism-and-psychopathy?amp

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/childmind.org/article/social-media-and-self-doubt/amp/

 

[The Sandman]

The title of this thread is a question and I request you all to please participate in poll to this question. Thanks!

So here comes my opinion on this matter. I was always taught to be nice to everyone you come across in life like you all. Also to never use foul language.
Never be arrogant to anyone.
Now with my observation this generation believes, coming across only means ‘meeting or interacting with someone face ho face’. The values and ethical lessons we are being fed with since our childhood also apply to people we interact with online. No?
But I see the opposite. People believe it’s all fine using filthy language and being arrogant on internet.

Literally it hurts to see girls especially Pakistani & Muslim girls cursing online. Using the most filthiest language that even a guy feel awkward reading it.
With my unpopular opinion, girls should not use foul language at all, same goes for the boys too. But I take a bit harsh stance for ladies because they raise generations.
A mother is the first teacher & if a teacher is arrogant what moral values and ethical lessons she has to give to his newborns eventually raising up to a new generation?

In almost every single Snapchat, posts, and comments I see girls very proudly using bad words. Even stupid thing is they whine all the time with typical saying of “don’t judge”. What you expect from people to think when all the time you be using foul words?
Why we are turning to an arrogant generation? I truly feel historical won’t write good for this generation.
What internet has turn us all into? A jungle of human beings?


share your views but please don’t turn it into a troll. Thanks!


@django @Zibago @The Sandman @Hell hound @The Eagle @Kaptaan @saiyan0321 @Well.wisher

I think i will agree with @Hell hound here aunty gormint is one such example this extreme vulgar language is in every human being imho yes Pakistani girls obv don't behave like that in real life but hey it's internet right? no one knows who's behind the screen. Internet got nothing to do with it i mean come on are we forgetting the language our old aunts use esp in villages in Punjab side?

But that doesn't mean i am justifying it. You're absolutely right on point that "Mother is the first teacher" and such behavior doesn't suit them but what about boys esp bully's that exist on PDF too their whole purpose is to troll and bully others probably because they themselves got bullied in their childhood by everyone so they vent their frustration and take some kind of revenge (in their mind) by using such filthy language not every girl can tolerate such abusive language for a long time "ignore" button is there but remember girls are humans too so it's kind of a cycle.

In the end again i will say it's internet you never know who's behind the screen. It's full of trolls and bully's. We should be thankful that in real life Pakistani girls do not use such abusive language that we may see on internet.

So no imo internet is not making them arrogant it may contribute a little but it's the environment, upbringing and behavior of elders around them which makes them arrogant OR humble. How a kid is brought up in which environment he spent his first 10-15 years and how he was treated by elders plays a big role in his life and behavior.

 

[Beast]

I never used Facebook or twitter, most who use it are actually abusing it with showing off their wealth or brag about themselves.

Of cos, Facebook and twitter are good at staying in touch with long distance relatives and friends. But mostly are being abuse.

 

[Musafir117]

Grapes are delicious fruit one of few fruits listed in Quran and eight times. Now it’s on you make wine or just simply enjoy it as a fruit. Same goes on internet or whatever the thing is that how you using it.
I used FB and found nothing good in it, for my friends or relatives the Viber Line Whatsapp etc is quiet enough to be in touch or sharing photos.
I voted NO.

 

[Well.wisher]

Use of internet depends upon you how you use it , how you've been handling it , what's your purpose and how much time you spend in it .
It has both advantages and disadvantages , and advantages are much ahead of disadvantages .
It's making you aware, upto date, place to share your opinions and rationalising thoughts , providing a platform for every thing you're interested in .
And then there r people who start abusing it for their bragging , attention seeking and acting insanely .
Internet provides you whatever you're looking for it in , if you've been looking to get yourself upward and make yourself aware of more world , morals , knowledge then you definitely turn into a good one but if you're here only for the useless purposes then internet is a curse for u .
I've been using social media for sometime, like Facebook etc and I totally concur that facebook is being abused lot . Why ? Cause it isn't a place to gain knowledge or morals, it's a place to meet with different people hiding behind a mask , it's just a place to show off n Bragg and mostly has converted into a dating site . It's abused so much because it doesn't provide u the necessaries of life, it focuses on the unimportant things . While at same time, there r many platforms available on internet e that can surely raise u up . One is this forum where we get to learn about new complicated things .

So internet has both sides of a coin , good n bad .

The title of this thread is a question and I request you all to please participate in poll to this question. Thanks!

So here comes my opinion on this matter. I was always taught to be nice to everyone you come across in life like you all. Also to never use foul language.
Never be arrogant to anyone.
Now with my observation this generation believes, coming across only means ‘meeting or interacting with someone face ho face’. The values and ethical lessons we are being fed with since our childhood also apply to people we interact with online. No?
But I see the opposite. People believe it’s all fine using filthy language and being arrogant on internet.

Literally it hurts to see girls especially Pakistani & Muslim girls cursing online. Using the most filthiest language that even a guy feel awkward reading it.
With my unpopular opinion, girls should not use foul language at all, same goes for the boys too. But I take a bit harsh stance for ladies because they raise generations.
A mother is the first teacher & if a teacher is arrogant what moral values and ethical lessons she has to give to his newborns eventually raising up to a new generation?

In almost every single Snapchat, posts, and comments I see girls very proudly using bad words. Even stupid thing is they whine all the time with typical saying of “don’t judge”. What you expect from people to think when all the time you be using foul words?
Why we are turning to an arrogant generation? I truly feel historical won’t write good for this generation.
What internet has turn us all into? A jungle of human beings?


share your views but please don’t turn it into a troll. Thanks!


@django @Zibago @The Sandman @Hell hound @The Eagle @Kaptaan @saiyan0321 @Well.wisher

As for the girls using abusive language , I think they give u what they learn from u .
Using abusive language is indeed a bad thing but I can say for sure, girls r much better than boys in this internet era .
Girls learn easily and soon turn humble while learnig, such boys on the other hand are stubborn and take internet as they own it .

Such Boys have abused the social media so much , I've seen them spreading profanity on social media, encouraging indecent websites , sending vile n vulgar photos to the girls , asking their phone numbers etc etc . Nd do u know they also use it for their blackmailing purposes ? Blackmailing to sexually abuse girls is also getting common thing,
Facebook and such social media should be a big no for this generation .

 

[Taygibay]

Hello Moonlight, Saiyan and the rest!
I may have to disappoint you in a few words but it needs
to be said to start a logic path to my opinion on this matter.

I have every reason to believe what JoeS outlined is true :

In my opinion, therefore, there is a sharp split in personality between our public (anonymous on the Internet) selves, and our private, 'normal' selves.

As I tried to explain apparently unsuccessfully to PDF brass recently,
I carry within me dichotomies and idiosyncrasies that shed a light on
how difficult it is for humans to interact especially in rich democracies.


First, my split is not along Joe's private versus public line so much.
I'm calm or you're in trouble is a better fit. Remember this for later.

Second, there is a defining ... say personality trait - being neutral-good
that causes more problems and requires more self-control than average.

Third, I'm not average on things usually considered opposite and can tell
you that people don't like that in the long run in about the same proportion
as it caught their admiration in the long run, the old pretty or bright stereotype.

Finally, deep down, naturally, I'm a joyful singing fool and that ... fools
some people, luring them in too close for confort to the dark parts.

All of which is lacquered by a good education, another thing that may
seem like an illusion if you manage to dig deeper than it?


From that, let's sketch a/my view of humans backed by some numbers.
In high intellectual quotient measurements, the out of norm number is

2%.​

That means that 2% of us are way brighter than the norm which, it should
be noted, in an equalitarian setting means that average will rule absolutely.

That metric is applied elsewhere and you can think of the 2% of athletically
endowed ( /inclined if driven ) say Olympians, top soldiers etc just the same.
And so on for endurance, reflexes or attention or even patience or compassion.

Say we get back to IQ and check our rest ( BIG rest LOL ) with the top 2% out.
It must contain a lower 2% right? It does of course : a segment made up of
people born with such deficiencies that higher reasoning may never occur at all.
At that level, the defect would be noticeable even in an animal so that we spot
it a whole lot easier than we spot intelligence, right? The first big bug is there.

Pressing on with that distribution ( which in nature works for marbles be them
inanimate and rolling in a test rig or located metaphorically in someone's head )
let's note its name - the normal distribution and how unrealistic it is!

What is the lowest measure in IQ? Lack of cerebral activity maybe ...
How could one go lower than zero? Similarly, what is the lowest point in physicality?
Lying inert without any voluntary movement, a coma without neural activity maybe ...​

The point is that a lower limit exists and what's more is easily spotted by almost all!

How about the upper limit? Well, if distance to low point is evident to all above it,
distance to high limit isn't so clear. It's only accessible to those in it even though
the normal ones can't ignore its existence. And to those in it it clearly means little!
Think of it, I'm in the same class as some of you but also as Bach, Goethe ETC!
Clearly, this segment A- goes further up the scale then the low one goes down &
B- is much less homogenous than the rest of the curve. Both statements are true.

What does that entail? Well, very bright peeps know that there better than the average.
If they are lacking morally, they'll use that mostly or solely to favour themselves.
If they have more good in them, they'll adapt to the situation and adopt a benevolent
view of their superiority as sort of a talent to be made useful.

If the view from the top is of an average magma, so is in fine the view from the magma.
The congregate of average folks has a view of the upper limit as an uncharacterizable gang
which is right as we just saw but probably resents the absence of ceiling if they guess it.
What's more, as a defence mechanism, they tend to believe that differences apply just as
well to their gang [ they do but with less spread per element of the ensemble ] thus indi-
cating a comforting similarity between each segment although this does nothing to alleviate
the harsh knowledge of the separation.

I'd venture that 40 to 60 % of humans are passive-aggressive.

But I see the opposite. People believe it’s all fine using filthy language and being arrogant on internet.

It was always like this we are just noticing it now because of tech/internet.

Q.E.D.


​

As for Internet itself, I've had the chance to use a predecessor
circa 1980 before I was even an adult and can tell all of you
that it was a marvelous place for exchanges ... then again, not
even a quarter of all of the 2% had access to it back then ...

so that this is not necessarily correct :

It has both advantages and disadvantages , and advantages are much ahead of disadvantages .

Technically, it may seem so at least until you find yourself in the Matrix.
In reality, ideas shape ideas and people will pick from what they know,
with what means they have to do so, and content creators will orient these
choices too and so on so that in the end, the choices won't be so rich and
will lower the standards and practices to the average level; it's already begun

. . .​

Internet provides you whatever you're looking for it in , if you've been looking to get yourself upward and make yourself aware of more world , morals , knowledge then you definitely turn into a good one but if you're here only for the useless purposes then internet is a curse for u .

. . . and I'd be a tad scared to evaluate that Voodoo crowd in %.

Personally, communicating on Internet allows me to be nicer than IRL.
Then again, I am not representative of the norm.

All the best to you and yours, guys 'n gals, Tay.

 

[El Sidd]

The only thing internet has taken out of our lives is our understanding of being social.

Young generations cannot successfully communicate anymore.

Arrogant and ignorant are synonyms

 

[livingdead]

just because somebody curses does not make her/him rude in real life.. its ok to be angry when you are teenager, and if internet provides a safe way to vent the anger, use it... i see no real harm.
most young people i meet are smart, intelligent and considerate(about everything including environment)... if you are an older person who think you are entitled to 'respect' simply because you are older, well some young people might not agree to such societal rules and might appear rude to you.

 

[Imran Khan]

no in fact its give them more info

 

[Joe Shearer]

I mean, like, WOW!

That was a GREAT post.

Hello Moonlight, Saiyan and the rest!
I may have to disappoint you in a few words but it needs
to be said to start a logic path to my opinion on this matter.

I have every reason to believe what JoeS outlined is true :

​

As I tried to explain apparently unsuccessfully to PDF brass recently,
I carry within me dichotomies and idiosyncrasies that shed a light on
how difficult it is for humans to interact especially in rich democracies.



First, my split is not along Joe's private versus public line so much.
I'm calm or you're in trouble is a better fit. Remember this for later.

Second, there is a defining ... say personality trait - being neutral-good
that causes more problems and requires more self-control than average.

Third, I'm not average on things usually considered opposite and can tell
you that people don't like that in the long run in about the same proportion
as it caught their admiration in the long run, the old pretty or bright stereotype.

Finally, deep down, naturally, I'm a joyful singing fool and that ... fools
some people, luring them in too close for confort to the dark parts.

All of which is lacquered by a good education, another thing that may
seem like an illusion if you manage to dig deeper than it?


From that, let's sketch a/my view of humans backed by some numbers.
In high intellectual quotient measurements, the out of norm number is

2%.​

That means that 2% of us are way brighter than the norm which, it should
be noted, in an equalitarian setting means that average will rule absolutely.

That metric is applied elsewhere and you can think of the 2% of athletically
endowed ( /inclined if driven ) say Olympians, top soldiers etc just the same.
And so on for endurance, reflexes or attention or even patience or compassion.

Say we get back to IQ and check our rest ( BIG rest LOL ) with the top 2% out.
It must contain a lower 2% right? It does of course : a segment made up of
people born with such deficiencies that higher reasoning may never occur at all.
At that level, the defect would be noticeable even in an animal so that we spot
it a whole lot easier than we spot intelligence, right? The first big bug is there.

Pressing on with that distribution ( which in nature works for marbles be them
inanimate and rolling in a test rig or located metaphorically in someone's head )
let's note its name - the normal distribution and how unrealistic it is!

What is the lowest measure in IQ? Lack of cerebral activity maybe ...
How could one go lower than zero? Similarly, what is the lowest point in physicality?
Lying inert without any voluntary movement, a coma without neural activity maybe ...​

The point is that a lower limit exists and what's more is easily spotted by almost all!

How about the upper limit? Well, if distance to low point is evident to all above it,
distance to high limit isn't so clear. It's only accessible to those in it even though
the normal ones can't ignore its existence. And to those in it it clearly means little!
Think of it, I'm in the same class as some of you but also as Bach, Goethe ETC!
Clearly, this segment A- goes further up the scale then the low one goes down &
B- is much less homogenous than the rest of the curve. Both statements are true.

What does that entail? Well, very bright peeps know that there better than the average.
If they are lacking morally, they'll use that mostly or solely to favour themselves.
If they have more good in them, they'll adapt to the situation and adopt a benevolent
view of their superiority as sort of a talent to be made useful.

If the view from the top is of an average magma, so is in fine the view from the magma.
The congregate of average folks has a view of the upper limit as an uncharacterizable gang
which is right as we just saw but probably resents the absence of ceiling if they guess it.
What's more, as a defence mechanism, they tend to believe that differences apply just as
well to their gang [ they do but with less spread per element of the ensemble ] thus indi-
cating a comforting similarity between each segment although this does nothing to alleviate
the harsh knowledge of the separation.

I'd venture that 40 to 60 % of humans are passive-aggressive.




Q.E.D.
​

As for Internet itself, I've had the chance to use a predecessor
circa 1980 before I was even an adult and can tell all of you
that it was a marvelous place for exchanges ... then again, not
even a quarter of all of the 2% had access to it back then ...

so that this is not necessarily correct :

​

Technically, it may seem so at least until you find yourself in the Matrix.
In reality, ideas shape ideas and people will pick from what they know
with what means they have to do so and content creators will orient these
choices too and so on so that in the end, the choices won't be so rich and
will lower the standards and practices to the average level; it's already begun

. . .​

​

. . . and I'd be a tad scared to evaluate that Voodoo crowd in %.

Personally, communicating on Internet allows me to be nicer than IRL.
Then again, I am not representative of the norm.

All the best to you and yours, guys 'n gals, Tay.