Is Railgun Answer to Threat posed by IN's Suface Fleet??

[Basel]

Railgun Systems

The Electromagnetic Systems Group of General Atomics (GA-EMS) is actively working to bring electromagnetic railgun technology to the Department of Defense for multiple missions: integrated air and missile defense, surface fire support and anti-surface warfare.
GA-EMS's expertise in electromagnetics stems from GA's long history in high power electrical systems, from developing and building both fission and fusion reactors, through the Navy's first electromagnetic launch and recovery equipment for aircraft carriers.
GA-EMS has developed, built and successfully tested two railguns, the internally funded the Blitzer™ 3 MJ system and a 32 MJ launcher for the Office of Naval Research (ONR). GA-EMS also designed and built the pulse power supply for both guns and is developing projectiles for air and missile defense and precision strike.
GA-EMS is continuing the Blitzer family of railguns with a 10 MJ system designed for mobile and fixed land-based applications.
Railguns deliver muzzle velocities up to twice those of conventional guns, resulting in shorter time to target and higher lethality at greater range with no propellant required onboard the platform. Railguns offer much deeper magazines and lower cost per engagement compared with missiles of comparable range.
Shorter time to the target and extended range – Railguns can reliably launch projectiles to muzzle velocities of Mach 6-7+. A round fired at sea level can reach the horizon in 6 to 7 seconds and still be traveling faster than a conventional gun‑launched munition at its muzzle.
Lethality without high explosives – Hypervelocity impact achieves high lethality through kinetic energy, eliminating the safety and logistic burdens of explosives.
Multi-mission capability – Railgun weapon systems employ guided, maneuverable projectiles which can accomplish multiple missions with the same round. Railguns can also fire a family of different projectiles with varying capabilities, levels of sophistication, and cost.
Elimination of propellant – Because rounds are launched electromagnetically, propellant is not required. This results in much smaller rounds, enabling many more stowed rounds in a constrained volume as well as improved safety and reduced logistics burden.
Lower cost – The confluence of microelectronics, nanotechnologies, and electromagnetic acceleration enable missile performance without rocket motors. Railgun-launched guided projectiles are expected to be much lower cost than current assets for integrated air and missile defense.
Higher fire power – With deep magazines and high, sustained firing rates, railguns provide unprecedented fire power.
Reduced Asymmetry – The lower cost and higher fire power of railguns levels the playing field with potential adversaries


Railgun Systems

Pakistan don't have huge money to buy weapons for its needs, but it can invest in systems which can help bring parity in war fighting capabilities.

@waz @Penguin @Horus please share your opinion.

 

[kṣamā]

Hmm lemme get this...An energy starved nation is looking for an energy weapon on it's Naval ships when only 10% of the defense money is allocated to it, right ?? Cool.

If that is the case then there are two ways. Hard way and easy way.

Hard way (* This is just an indication of what needs to be done) :-

1. Start developing organic infrastructure for building big DEFENSE ships, ELECTRONICS equipment and general manufacturing base.
2. Build few high tonnage destroyers.
3. Parallelly start research on civilian nuclear reactors.
4. Build some big U, then PU civilian nuclear reactors.
5. Operate them for some time to get the hang of it.
6. Building upon the research of civilian nuclear reactors, research on shrinking the design to naval size.
7. Build a naval nuclear reactor.
8. Operate naval nuclear reactor for few yrs.
9. Parallel to #3 start research in high energy density/discharge capacitors.
10. Parallel to #1 Start research on energy weapons namely Lasers, EM etc
11. Culminate these years or R&D to a prototype Railgun powered by small nuclear reactor through a farm of high energy discharge capacitors.
12. Build a nuclear powered ship.
13. Integrate all prototype on this ship.

That's it.

Easy Way:- Wait for China to get one, then ask them for a copy paid with soft loans.

 

[mkb95]

why stop at railgun when u can also get space based anti-ship laser system.

 

[Ifteqar Aisan]

The Electromagnetic Systems Group of General Atomics (GA-EMS) is actively working to bring electromagnetic railgun technology to the Department of Defense for multiple missions: integrated air and missile defense, surface fire support and anti-surface warfare.
QUOTE]

Are these posts meant for providing entertainment? Why don't you do some research into these things before posting? Electromagnetic pulse weapons are so energy intensive that the Americans are still not sure it is a viable weapon. Let them figure it out first, then we will see.

 

[jaiind]

rail gun

 

[silent hawk]

AoA
Do they have any proximity capability or is a direct impact required?
Regards

 

[Basel]

Are these posts meant for providing entertainment? Why don't you do some research into these things before posting? Electromagnetic pulse weapons are so energy intensive that the Americans are still not sure it is a viable weapon. Let them figure it out first, then we will see.

Kindly increase your knowledge about development and deployment of railgun systems then try to respond. They are one of main future weapons of USN & China Navy.

Railguns are reality of near future, there is a reason US & China continuously working on them. They will be mounted on nuclear powered ships.

Navy's New Railgun Can Hurl a Shell Over 5,000 MPH | WIRED


Enemy Cruise Missile, Meet the U.S. Rail Gun - WSJ

Hmm lemme get this...An energy starved nation is looking for an energy weapon on it's Naval ships when only 10% of the defense money is allocated to it, right ?? Cool.

If that is the case then there are two ways. Hard way and easy way.

Hard way (* This is just an indication of what needs to be done) :-

1. Start developing organic infrastructure for building big DEFENSE ships, ELECTRONICS equipment and general manufacturing base.
2. Build few high tonnage destroyers.
3. Parallelly start research on civilian nuclear reactors.
4. Build some big U, then PU civilian nuclear reactors.
5. Operate them for some time to get the hang of it.
6. Building upon the research of civilian nuclear reactors, research on shrinking the design to naval size.
7. Build a naval nuclear reactor.
8. Operate naval nuclear reactor for few yrs.
9. Parallel to #3 start research in high energy density/discharge capacitors.
10. Parallel to #1 Start research on energy weapons namely Lasers, EM etc
11. Culminate these years or R&D to a prototype Railgun powered by small nuclear reactor through a farm of high energy discharge capacitors.
12. Build a nuclear powered ship.
13. Integrate all prototype on this ship.

That's it.

Easy Way:- Wait for China to get one, then ask them for a copy paid with soft loans.

Pakistan will definitely take easy route in future when those systems are available which will be economical too as compared to your hard and expensive way.

 

[Ifteqar Aisan]

Kindly increase your knowledge about development and deployment of railgun systems then try to respond. They are one of main future weapons of USN & China Navy.

Railguns are reality of near future, there is a reason US & China continuously working on them. They will be mounted on nuclear powered ships.

In order to fire a projectile to travel 110 miles at a level trajectory, a rail-gun needs 32 megajoules of energy, drawing 25 MW of power, The range of BrahMos I is 180 miles. The rail-gun is a development concept. In the near future, it will be a good toy to scare third-word countries with. Not so much a proper navy. Maybe 15-20 years down the line, things will be different.

 

[MastanKhan]

AoA
Do they have any proximity capability or is a direct impact required?
Regards

Hi direct impact and first round first hit capability---. Even the USS Missouri 16 in guns could score a first round hit at 20 miles----.

This is a first round hit at around 200 miles range at around 5000 MPH----the projectile is around 20 + lbs.

U.S. Navy Railgun Video shows its destructive power | BGR

 

[GR!FF!N]

Yup sure...But you have to wait like,50 years to get Zumwalt transferred to Pakistan Navy.

 

[RealNapster]

Hmm lemme get this...An energy starved nation is looking for an energy weapon on it's Naval ships when only 10% of the defense money is allocated to it, right ?? Cool.

If that is the case then there are two ways. Hard way and easy way.

Hard way (* This is just an indication of what needs to be done) :-

1. Start developing organic infrastructure for building big DEFENSE ships, ELECTRONICS equipment and general manufacturing base.
2. Build few high tonnage destroyers.
3. Parallelly start research on civilian nuclear reactors.
4. Build some big U, then PU civilian nuclear reactors.
5. Operate them for some time to get the hang of it.
6. Building upon the research of civilian nuclear reactors, research on shrinking the design to naval size.
7. Build a naval nuclear reactor.
8. Operate naval nuclear reactor for few yrs.
9. Parallel to #3 start research in high energy density/discharge capacitors.
10. Parallel to #1 Start research on energy weapons namely Lasers, EM etc
11. Culminate these years or R&D to a prototype Railgun powered by small nuclear reactor through a farm of high energy discharge capacitors.
12. Build a nuclear powered ship.
13. Integrate all prototype on this ship.

That's it.

Easy Way:- Wait for China to get one, then ask them for a copy paid with soft loans.

i will go with the first one.

 

[nForce]

@Basel @MastanKhan The problem that needs to solved in most of the cases is not the gun or the projectile. In my opinion, a major part of the problem revolves around what to shoot, locating it, identifying it and ensuring your projectile/war head reaches the target.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Hmm lemme get this...An energy starved nation is looking for an energy weapon on it's Naval ships when only 10% of the defense money is allocated to it, right ?? Cool.

If that is the case then there are two ways. Hard way and easy way.

Hard way (* This is just an indication of what needs to be done) :-

1. Start developing organic infrastructure for building big DEFENSE ships, ELECTRONICS equipment and general manufacturing base.
2. Build few high tonnage destroyers.
3. Parallelly start research on civilian nuclear reactors.
4. Build some big U, then PU civilian nuclear reactors.
5. Operate them for some time to get the hang of it.
6. Building upon the research of civilian nuclear reactors, research on shrinking the design to naval size.
7. Build a naval nuclear reactor.
8. Operate naval nuclear reactor for few yrs.
9. Parallel to #3 start research in high energy density/discharge capacitors.
10. Parallel to #1 Start research on energy weapons namely Lasers, EM etc
11. Culminate these years or R&D to a prototype Railgun powered by small nuclear reactor through a farm of high energy discharge capacitors.
12. Build a nuclear powered ship.
13. Integrate all prototype on this ship.

That's it.

Easy Way:- Wait for China to get one, then ask them for a copy paid with soft loans.

I see you are trying to be a smartass with your mambo jumbo..

1) Rail guns are powered by Nuclear reactors on board large ship and as per U.S estimates, Pakistan is very much capable of doing it. Energy starved nation comment doesn't any make sense.

2) Rail gun concept is pretty simple and any electrical engineering students can built a decent model in his lab. U.S and China are just trying to get the max variable potential out of this simple idea for their militaries.

 

[kṣamā]

I see you are trying to be a smartass with your mambo jumbo..

What may seem "mambo jumbo" to a nomad is what actually happening in this world.

1) Rail guns are powered by Nuclear reactors on board large ship and as per U.S estimates, Pakistan is very much capable of doing it. Energy starved nation comment doesn't any make sense.

1) Rail guns are powered by Nuclear reactors on board large ship and as per U.S estimates, Pakistan is very much capable of doing it. Energy starved nation comment doesn't any make sense.[/QUOTE] Ok lets agree that Pakistan is capable. So do we have metrics to prove it ?? Metrics like "How many civil nuclear reactors of Pakistani design and construction are operational ??", "How many Naval (Defense) ships where constructed in 15,000 Tons class ??"

2) Rail gun concept is pretty simple and any electrical engineering students can built a decent model in his lab. U.S and China are just trying to get the max variable potential out of this simple idea for their militaries.

Well yes it is simple. The problem come when super sizing it. Just the energy required for one shot is off the charts. I am not even talking about the power and power delivery requirement for a sustained fire capability. ANd to be fair I am talking about a Railgun system which fires projectiles over at-least 300Km with enough kinetic energy to cause damage comparable to a warhead. Crunch some nos and then get back.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Hmm lemme get this...An energy starved nation is looking for an energy weapon on it's Naval ships when only 10% of the defense money is allocated to it, right ?? Cool.

If that is the case then there are two ways. Hard way and easy way.

Hard way (* This is just an indication of what needs to be done) :-

1. Start developing organic infrastructure for building big DEFENSE ships, ELECTRONICS equipment and general manufacturing base.
2. Build few high tonnage destroyers.
3. Parallelly start research on civilian nuclear reactors.
4. Build some big U, then PU civilian nuclear reactors.
5. Operate them for some time to get the hang of it.
6. Building upon the research of civilian nuclear reactors, research on shrinking the design to naval size.
7. Build a naval nuclear reactor.
8. Operate naval nuclear reactor for few yrs.
9. Parallel to #3 start research in high energy density/discharge capacitors.
10. Parallel to #1 Start research on energy weapons namely Lasers, EM etc
11. Culminate these years or R&D to a prototype Railgun powered by small nuclear reactor through a farm of high energy discharge capacitors.
12. Build a nuclear powered ship.
13. Integrate all prototype on this ship.

That's it.

Easy Way:- Wait for China to get one, then ask them for a copy paid with soft loans.

Well going by that rationale

DRDO should be washing tanks with the "super liquid" of the Gods and producing newer deadlier versions.

DRDO should also be harnessing gas from the Gods for fart guns ; thereby launching projectiles even further than electromagnetically accelerated ones.

Now, concentrate back on India and make your self scarce if you have nothing but you insecurities to share around.

Vanish now ..