Is JNU a democratic or a Left hegemonic space: Professor Makarand Paranjape

[thesolar65]

Paranjape also targeted Kanhaiya Kumar and the speech he made on the day of his return to campus.


Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) English Professor Makarand Paranjape on Monday questioned if JNU was a “democratic space”, as was being projected, or a “Left hegemonic space”. He also questioned why Leftists had trouble accepting the “legitimacy of the Indian state”.

Delivering the 15th nationalism lecture, “India’s Uncivil Wars. Tagore, Gandhi — JNU and what is ‘Left’ of the nation”, Paranjape also targeted JNUSU president Kanhaiya Kumar and the speech he made on the day of his return to campus. Paranjape had earlier said the February 9 event on Afzal Guru in JNU was held under a “false pretext”.


“Why is it so difficult to accept the legitimacy of the Indian state for many people in the established Left? Forget about the Maoists. They believe in armed revolution and we know that DSU (Democratic Students’ Union) is an offshoot of this Maoist party,” he said, even as the crowd shook heads in disagreement.

"Look at the letter of resignation that Umar Khalid and Anirban wrote from DSU. You know what they said? We are resigning because there is no scope for dissent, there is no democracy in DSU. Look at the irony of these situations,” he added.

Paranjape also questioned the democracy within the Left in general, and in JNU in particular.

“When we consider ourselves to be a democratic space, we should ask ourselves if this is entirely true. Isn’t it possible that it is a Left hegemonic space, where if you disagree you are silenced, you are boycotted, you are browbeaten, or sometimes you’re brainwashed,” he said.

He also said Kanhaiya’s speech had factual errors, “You said M S Golwalkar met Mussolini; but did you check your facts? It was B S Moonje who met Mussolini… I am not saying they were not impressed with the fascists, they were. They thought it was very good to have an authoritarian system. But please let us agree on what is factual and what is not,” he said.

Paranjape also questioned why there were no solidarity statements from China or North Korea. “We have so many statements from everywhere. Can you show me a statement from North Korea or even from China? I have met many Chinese intellectuals… they will tell you how bad things are but ask them to take out a morcha, they can’t,” he said. However, a Chinese student countered him saying there were protests in China, just like in any other country.

Is JNU a democratic or a Left hegemonic space: Professor Makarand Paranjape | The Indian Express

Is JNU a democratic or a Left hegemonic space: Professor Makarand Paranjape

@ranjeet @Levina @jaunty @Cherokee @nair

 

[thesolar65]

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Socialism principles: All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I.

@Levina and @jamahir

A ripoff from whatsapp!!

 

[Infinity]

He also said Kanhaiya’s speech had factual errors, “You said M S Golwalkar met Mussolini; but did you check your facts? It was B S Moonje who met Mussolini… I am not saying they were not impressed with the fascists, they were. They thought it was very good to have an authoritarian system. But please let us agree on what is factual and what is not,” he said.

He is better than Pm and HM of this Country......................They Speak and Tweet more Factual errors than 28 year old Kanhaiya Kumar

 

[Jason bourne]

Iske baad ka NIVEDITA MANON KI SPEECH DEKHI THI KISINE

 

[911]

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Socialism principles: All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I.

@Levina and @jamahir

A ripoff from whatsapp!!

There was never equality in human existence,never will be

Paranjape also targeted Kanhaiya Kumar and the speech he made on the day of his return to campus.


Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) English Professor Makarand Paranjape on Monday questioned if JNU was a “democratic space”, as was being projected, or a “Left hegemonic space”. He also questioned why Leftists had trouble accepting the “legitimacy of the Indian state”.

Delivering the 15th nationalism lecture, “India’s Uncivil Wars. Tagore, Gandhi — JNU and what is ‘Left’ of the nation”, Paranjape also targeted JNUSU president Kanhaiya Kumar and the speech he made on the day of his return to campus. Paranjape had earlier said the February 9 event on Afzal Guru in JNU was held under a “false pretext”.


“Why is it so difficult to accept the legitimacy of the Indian state for many people in the established Left? Forget about the Maoists. They believe in armed revolution and we know that DSU (Democratic Students’ Union) is an offshoot of this Maoist party,” he said, even as the crowd shook heads in disagreement.

"Look at the letter of resignation that Umar Khalid and Anirban wrote from DSU. You know what they said? We are resigning because there is no scope for dissent, there is no democracy in DSU. Look at the irony of these situations,” he added.

Paranjape also questioned the democracy within the Left in general, and in JNU in particular.

“When we consider ourselves to be a democratic space, we should ask ourselves if this is entirely true. Isn’t it possible that it is a Left hegemonic space, where if you disagree you are silenced, you are boycotted, you are browbeaten, or sometimes you’re brainwashed,” he said.

He also said Kanhaiya’s speech had factual errors, “You said M S Golwalkar met Mussolini; but did you check your facts? It was B S Moonje who met Mussolini… I am not saying they were not impressed with the fascists, they were. They thought it was very good to have an authoritarian system. But please let us agree on what is factual and what is not,” he said.

Paranjape also questioned why there were no solidarity statements from China or North Korea. “We have so many statements from everywhere. Can you show me a statement from North Korea or even from China? I have met many Chinese intellectuals… they will tell you how bad things are but ask them to take out a morcha, they can’t,” he said. However, a Chinese student countered him saying there were protests in China, just like in any other country.

Is JNU a democratic or a Left hegemonic space: Professor Makarand Paranjape | The Indian Express

Is JNU a democratic or a Left hegemonic space: Professor Makarand Paranjape

@ranjeet @Levina @jaunty @Cherokee @nair

Those who don't agree with those leftists are cornered, considered backward and treated as untouchables.

 

[Levina]

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

Exactly!!!
Socialism is an idealistic notion. Going by the chaos theory, even the most stable societies will become unstable with time.And then stability is restored again. Its a cycle!

Isn’t it possible that it is a Left hegemonic space, where if you disagree you are silenced, you are boycotted, you are browbeaten, or sometimes you’re brainwashed,” he said.

Nobody knows it better than Comrade Achuthanandan. Lol

A ripoff from whatsapp!!

Forwarded to my friends too.

 

[ranjeet]

JNU professors whispering sweet nothings Or is it a student? One can't be too sure about these middle aged JNU leechers.

 

[911]

Zee owner Subhash Chandra's clarification on JNU stand.

JNU professors whispering sweet nothings Or is it a student? One can't be too sure about these middle aged JNU leechers.

Iski recent speeches sunne se lagta hai iske par nikal aye hai jail se chhootne ke baad.
"Kisi me dum hai to rok ke dikhae"

 

[Sky lord]

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

A little over simplified IMO.

You need equality of OPPORTUNITY or at least something close to it.

The poor work very hard but can never earn enough to get themselves out of poverty and many are rich not because they work but because their daddy was rich and had the right connections.

The basic premise that the government should allow great reward is fine, nothing wrong with being wealthy but they should also provide opportunity in the way of education, health care, skills training etc for those who need it so they too have some chance.

 

[jamahir]

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Socialism principles: All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I.

@Levina and @jamahir

A ripoff from whatsapp!!

i have read the story before and i think it is a fictitious happening.

but whether fiction or not, the five points don't make sense and can be easily discredited by any socialist.

but i am now back into sufi-jogi mode, away from political discussions especially related to india, because on pdf there is too much freedom given to the saffronis/desh-bhakts.

so allow me to say only this much.

 

[IndoCarib]

Did You Check Facts Before Making The Speech: JNU Professor Asks Kanhaiya Kumar

Kanhaiya said in his celebrated speech Golwalkar met Mussolini. Did you check your facts, it was Moonje who met Mussolini," Mr Paranjape said.