Is it spilling over?

[PakSword]

Europe also will be more or less colonised by Indian and Chinese companies, and there will be a lookout for resources, minerals into Africa. By then, AI would be developed and spacefaring nations will look to move to other planets. India will be a leading provider of rocket launch technologies, many Indians will be leaving the planet, along with other space faring nations.Those who invest in Space stations will be making the first move, India will be building one in the next 10 years, the Chinese already have it, the ISS is already there for the Europeans, but lack of funding will see a stall or it will be taken over by Asians.More akin to NASA becoming less and less capable over time.

I don't know.. You are not clear on what will happen.

Are we talking about Indian colonies or Indian area of influence?

Will the boundaries of Indian extend to Europe or just the influence? If we are talking about influence, then India already have too much influence on many countries and regions. Now even ethnic Indians are planning to run for US presidency as well. We see key Indian ministers in UK and many other European nations.. so influence is already there, what else will happen?

For instance if tommorow the Monarch of a GCC state says, lets those who have stayed here for a particular period be considered citizen, then overnight, the state will become an Indian substate. It depends on what policies are being taken.

But like you said, all other Indians are coming back to India, Indians might decide to go back from GCC too..

 

[Blacklight]

Sorry, Rwanda and angola are future Indian zones of influence, so you cant migrate there. Please check.
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Kali is dead please commit sati.

 

[Nilgiri]

But I think, migration numbers show that there will be more Indians in US and Europe than any other people, unless Indians stop migrating to west because of Indian economic powerhouse.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/pro...th-over-time?width=900&height=850&iframe=true

Nope Chinese migrate in larger number (and they are 2nd to mexico for US...Mexican immigrants account for 2 times China and Indian migrants combined)

Why do Chinese immigrate to US in larger number if they are way more bigger economic powerhouse than India?

Indian and Pakistani migration in recent years to US are more or less in the ratio to their home population size of country.

 

[PakSword]

Well, it is said in Indian texts that Sarvadaman (Conqueror of all) Bharata, conquered the whole world and then decided conquest is not the way forward and stopped expanding his terretories and reclined.Thats how India started becoming an inward looking state in the first place.

So, I dont think, India will expand its terretories, only civilisational influence.The age of terretories are gone, its the space age.Who can launch to space is the biggest question. Iran has just jumped one step ahead of Pakistan and Suparco day before yesterday on this regard.

Don't think Pakistan was anywhere near India or Iran in space tech on day before day before yesterday.

 

[PakSword]

Your metrics will show a decline, as India and China stabilise in the next half a decade. These two giants dont have space for its population to be accomodated as of now, but at max, give it 50 years. I can already track the Canadian trends.
Want to repaste vice. ( Gist: lot of Indian origin migrants are returning)

So, the outflow will stop in 20-50 years completely and historical relationships and marriages into US might result in backflow of a white population into India after that point.

But the data @Nilgiri has just posted above doesn't show any slow down. Maybe, Indians aren't preferring Canada, but I think US and Europe are still hot destinations for Indian permanent migrants.

 

[Nilgiri]

Your metrics will show a decline, as India and China stabilise in the next half a decade. These two giants dont have space for its population to be accomodated as of now, but at max, give it 50 years. I can already track the Canadian trends.
Want to repaste vice. ( Gist: lot of Indian origin migrants are returning)

So, the outflow will stop in 20-50 years completely and historical relationships and marriages into US might result in backflow of a white population into India after that point.

That's not what I was responding to.

I am just showing a correlation, that having 4 or whatever times the "nominal" GDP that is touted here (for purpose of claiming powerhouse status) by Chinese and assortment of their cheerleaders apparently doesnt reduce their immigration to the US by the same 4 times....in fact not even close.

Likely there is more to it than "nominal GDP" after all. But its conversation they never stick around for.

@gambit @Hamartia Antidote

As for the longer trends of economic size and population migration patterns on that, that remains to be seen.

 

[El Sidd]

Salam

Notification says you quoted me. I cannot find it.

 

[El Sidd]

Thought of responding, but dint

Brought back old memories?

 

[Nilgiri]

But the data @Nilgiri has just posted above doesn't show any slow down. Maybe, Indians aren't preferring Canada, but I think US and Europe are still hot destinations for Indian permanent migrants.

The void is still very great between the development level and opportunity afforded in the West compared to India, China and developing asia.

Per capita income is good place to start. If you are 3 - 4 times more than you were before in some short stretch of time, thats still not much dent in the larger void (to say significantly shape your propensity to immigrate overall)

It will take a really long time left to own trends to stabilise....though in case of US, Mexico +Latin America is by far the largest draw of immigrants given proximity.

What might come well before it (of significance) is more tightening on immigration norms and trade norms that can affect it from the current demand-end ...as we are already seeing the first contours of that in US case.

 

[StormBreaker]

Brought back old memories?

 

[GumNaam]

As per Bharatic Understanding, there is something called Vasudaiva Kutumbakam( all world is one family). Our chronologies dictate the origin of Man from the first Manu to the current Manu(Vivashwan) and all his children and all the tribes that originated from his children, the Manavas, also the Devas and Asuras.So essentially, we are all brothers. We do not follow the Kaffir , no Kaffir type of Philosophy, or Chosen not chosen type of Abrahamic understanding of the world.

While in the real world, there is no evidence no hindu ruler ever made out beyond the indian subcontinent regardless of what these pseudo vedic fantasy land vedic history books bark on about! 'Nuf said!

Oh and UAE or any other GCC state reserves the right to confiscate investments while terminating iqamas & deporting hindus. aapay sayvbaher na ho aur apni auqaat may raho, know you your place!

 

[StormBreaker]

Well, it is said in Indian texts that Sarvadaman (Conqueror of all) Bharata, conquered the whole world and then decided conquest is not the way forward and stopped expanding his terretories and reclined.Thats how India started becoming an inward looking state in the first place.

So, I dont think, India will expand its terretories, only civilisational influence.The age of terretories are gone, its the space age.Who can launch to space is the biggest question. Iran has just jumped one step ahead of Pakistan and Suparco day before yesterday on this regard.

Sarvada Man ?

He is a relative of Superman ?

 

[Ace of Spades]

Slowly but surely I am getting your point.. After reading your posts about your economy and power at the global stage, I think what you are saying is correct. In few decades down the line, you guys will have more states towards your west. But it depends on your economy's pace.. if it slows down, then forget about it.

By the way, is there any integration plan on your eastern side.. I mean Bangladesh, Indonesia etc? Or historically these countries weren't part of India? Honest question!

So, correct me if I am wrong, there will be few civilizations.. Hinduism, Chinese, Europe and East Asia? I believe East Asian nations will be integrated with China. Australia and US will be under European influence I believe..

Not sure if it's extreme form of sarcasm or trolling...

 

[Ace of Spades]

There is evidence, there is a genetic Haplotype called R1a, it is a subclade of the R Haplogroup.In the Rig Veda, it is said the Bharatas defeated the sons of Danu, who are known as the Danavas, the Danavas left the Indian subcontinent, and became the Danubians, Danube Don River, Russians, Europeans or other R1a peoples.

Dasrajna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Ten_Kings

R1a distributions

Danavas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danava_(Hinduism)

It was always an out of India migration of the Indo Aryans, after the Bharatas chased out their defeated cousins.Wy do I say this? because its recorded in the Vedas and Europeans dont have the Vedas, Indians have it.

Danube River

In short, the history matches with the haplogroup distribution

What is it that makes you this ignorant? .... it's unbearable to read such rhetoric. Too stupid to even respond to the points you are mentioning. Don't trash this thread with this vedic sciences. Create a new thread if you want to discuss such stuff with your like minded sanghis.

 

[Mentee]

I dont think East Asia will integrate into China, in fact the opposite will happen, East Asia will integrate into India, following the ancient Hindu civilisational patter. There will be a NATO style India+SE Asia Block pitted against China.

And I used to think rss nazis are one obnoxious lot