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My mother's Parkinson's and neurological disorder has really accelerated at record speed in the last 2 years especially in the last 6 months.

She used to be a strong solid active independent woman all her life and now her world has completely turned upside down and now she is completely dependent on her kids, relatives and friends. Her day to day functioning, speech has been badly affected and it scares the daylights out of us imagining her having to climb stairs. We have miraculously got her to agree to a part time helper who comes 3 days a week for 2 hours but she clearly needs a lot lot more.

In the last 6 months I have seen her breakdown a good 30 times because of her condition and the fact she knows she isn't what she used to be. We have all tried our best to help her and make her comfortable as much as possible but there are times when even my dad gets very distressed by her emotional blackmailing.

My dad was looking forward to working for the next 5 years at his high profile job given that he has always been a workaholic all his life but he is now contemplating quitting and retiring much earlier than he anticipated and my biggest fear is that taking care of my mom full time is going to take a toll on him and I have observed many people go downhill rapidly after retirement.

So far my baby sister was keeping an eye on mom while me and dad went to work. But this week my baby sister got married and has moved to the next phase of her life. My biggest fear is that this is going to have a huge toll on my mom and my baby sister and mom were extremely close and her no longer being around is going to have an adverse impact.

I myself am not reassessing my professional direction and I now want to quit accounting and perhaps now try hard to get into a govt job so that I can have much friendly work hours and can be home at frequent time periods and be free on the weekends as well.

I am now 35 years old and the only unmarried child left now and am next in line. My moms condition has been clearly visible to all my extended relatives, grand mother, aunts. They have all told me along with my dad that if my age alone wasn't enough of a problem, my mother's condition is now going to be a big problem and now definitely no parent will give their daughter out of fear that their daughter is going to be burdened with taking care of her.

There is a family who are our extended relatives and they have constantly been lobbying with my grandmother, extended relatives behind the scenes for the last 6 years to get my parents to make a proposal for their daughter for me.

I never personally had any problem with the girl or her family. In fact the biggest plus point is that the girls parents are extremely wonderful shareef people who according to my parents, elders will actually love, respect me like a son and overlook my poor social skills, Aspergers Syndrome and are prepared to accept our union knowing my moms condition. My only issue with the girl is that she in the six years I have observed her in all family functions, never talks to anyone, stays aloof in a corner, I have never seen her smile, life and you dont get any impression or semblance of any personality

My aunt broke down today while lobbying and trying to convince me to accept the girl and the family and be considered to my parents especially my mom and her condition.

A few years ago I would have been like, hell with it, il wait patiently till the right person comes along irrespective of how old I get, but now the situation is completely different and I now would like to give my parents especially my mom comfort and peace of mind by settling down before her condition really deteriorates.

Have tried very hard to think about this and can still not come to a decision. The pros are definitely the girls parents, their shareef, loving nature, the cons are I have known the girl for six years and I am struggling to force myself to feel for her or look at her that way, will I be making the right decision in agreeing to marry her and spend the rest of my life with her because of her parents or is there a risk that I may be unhappy, bored, depressed being in a relationship devoid of love, chemistry, passion and what is a compromise, will it last? What if going forward when I am married with kids, I run into someone I really like and makes me feel alive again?

The feedback I have from my friends and others is mixed, equal mix of people saying "dude just get married for the sake of it, do it for the larger picture and do your best to make the most of it, make sacrifices, compromises". The other mix is saying "You will be making the biggest screw up of your life, the girls life and even family relationships by agreeing to this. One day your parents will not be here and you will have to live with this decision for the rest of your life"

I have to make a decision on this in the next 1-2 weeks as the family pressure is really getting brutal and I don't think I can deal with my moms emotional blackmailing anymore. Would love to hear people share their opinions, experiences and anecdotes.
 
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Hey it is a very wise decision to seek help from good people.
Islam definitely values the consent for the girl and boy for the marriage and in fact the nikkah is invalid if the consent has not been obtained. However liking and disliking are subjective and bound to change over time and with circumstances. I have seen people who hated to everything non-mutton to happily eating plain lentils as the circumstances changed.

I can related to your situation since I had some similar experience with little difference. As soon as I finished my Bachelors, my parents started to push me to get married and I couldn't understand it because I had plans to do MS and establish myself as an independent person before I could get married. But my family kept a steady pressure on me so I conjured up a smart scheme that I would meet all prospective candidate (girls and/or their families) and would reject them for one reason or the other..She is short, she is too bold, she talks a lot, blah blah ..my objective was to delay it until I got my business running..the time kept passing and I graduated and started my business but, in the mean while, my dear mother departed.... She was suffering from cancer but my family kept it secret so that I could focus on my studies but at the same time, she wanted to see me married in her life. I got married two years after her death but I have live with the guilt.

So please evaluate & review your preferences, liking and disliking and if there is a way and a few things you can ignore or settle then please don't waste the time. However, if there's something that you cannot compromise at all then be very open with your family and tell them honestly and find an unanimous solution.
 
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I would advice, don't get married just to get a carer for your mother. You live in Canada, maybe you can hire more help? Or maybe different types of help. A carer for your mum might be difficult to get hold of but if you hire a cleaner, or a cook, it might give you more time to spend with your mum.

Even if you do marry, i would suggest keeping on the extra help, so that new woman in your life doesn't feel burdened by the housework etc. It will ruin your marriage and cause extra stress.

If you have doubts about whether this girl is right for you - ask to speak to her privately, or even via telephone/email. Talk to her, find out what she is like, if she is interested.

This blind marriage business worked in the past, because there was blind obedience to parents no matter what. That isn't the case anymore.
 
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I never personally had any problem with the girl or her family. In fact the biggest plus point is that the girls parents are extremely wonderful shareef people who according to my parents, elders will actually love, respect me like a son and overlook my poor social skills, Aspergers Syndrome and are prepared to accept our union knowing my moms condition. My only issue with the girl is that she in the six years I have observed her in all family functions, never talks to anyone, stays aloof in a corner, I have never seen her smile, life and you dont get any impression or semblance of any personality
Mate, her staying aloof itself should not be a problem if there's no other issue. The girl I married was also like that but she changed after the marriage. If you like her physically and she is educated enough then her being a bit aloof can in fact be a very good thing. After all you don't want to marry a party girl who is always out with friends.. But that's your call and your life
 
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demand changes with the passage of time. I believe girl and boy should have atleast two meetings before getting marry. Parents should only scan the compatibility between the future couple.
 
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Please don’t marry someone so the girl can take full time job taking care of your mom. She will be getting married to you. Not anyone else. Respecting and taking care of parents is a must for a daughter in law, but she is not “the help”. She can either look after her married life ie you or your mom which isn’t what marriages are about.

I suggest, hire an extra help so helping your mom out is not burden on you or your wife. It will allow a chance for your marriage to grow as well. Otherwise, believe me, there will be lots of complaining and arguing.

I hope Allah swt gives shifa and strength to your mom. Ameen.
 
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Listen,my friend,,first of all this is not a place to discuss such issues.
Despite what u may think,,majority of the posters here r immature n incapable of giving advice ,,,especially in a situation such as yours.
I am a doctor n have seen parkinsons cases,,,n i understand(atleast subjectively) the challenges pertaing to the patients family.
I really dont know what to advice u but one thing for sure,,,dont marry that girl just now.(especially since she is a relative)
Your mother is sick and it is YOUR DUTY to take care of her,,never assume someone else can do that better thn u.
I feel that u r an intelligent person,,,plz do read about parkinsons n extrapyramidal symptoms n consult a speacialist.
As for ur condition,,dont worry my friend its just a mild thing,,,it might be actually helping u achieve greater control f ur mind. Medical science have not yet deciphered all puzzles.
I wish u all the best.
 
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For the record. Me and my dad will look after my mom even after my marriage, this will not be the spouses responsibility. But unfortunately given the times and era we live in today, a guys mother or father being extremely unwell is a big redflag for the girls side of the family and they will have fears that their daughter will be playing the role of a full time caregiver.

My phuppo did it for my phuppa for his parents for a good 6 years after marriage while my phuppa was focusing full time during the day on his business.
 
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My only issue with the girl is that she in the six years I have observed her in all family functions, never talks to anyone, stays aloof in a corner, I have never seen her smile, life and you dont get any impression or semblance of any personality
WOW!!! Mujhe aisi larki mil jaye. Man you are so lucky in this respect!!
 
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Listen,my friend,,first of all this is not a place to discuss such issues.
Despite what u may think,,majority of the posters here r immature n incapable of giving advice ,,,especially in a situation such as yours.
I am a doctor n have seen parkinsons cases,,,n i understand(atleast subjectively) the challenges pertaing to the patients family.
I really dont know what to advice u but one thing for sure,,,dont marry that girl just now.(especially since she is a relative)
Your mother is sick and it is YOUR DUTY to take care of her,,never assume someone else can do that better thn u.
I feel that u r an intelligent person,,,plz do read about parkinsons n extrapyramidal symptoms n consult a speacialist.
As for ur condition,,dont worry my friend its just a mild thing,,,it might be actually helping u achieve greater control f ur mind. Medical science have not yet deciphered all puzzles.
I wish u all the best.

Actually we are not sure if its parkinson's because that is what the neurosurgeons suspected initially, but even parkinson patients take apparently a good 5-10 years before the symptoms really start to get out of control but in my mom's case she was initially diagnosed in 2016, but a second opinion ruled it out but then in 2017 she really started to slow down and the doctors reaffirmed it was Parkinsons but she really drastically declined from 2018 onwards and her entire world has turned upside down.

I have seen her breakdown like 30-40 times in the last year and a half and she gets very upset when we go out of our way to try and help her. We have requested her to accept 24/7 help but she refuses, my dad has already started working from home, cut down his travel and reduced his hours but its taking a toll on him as well, for the first time in my life he broke down like a child on my shoulders over the whole situation and in a way begging me to accept the girl, family they want for me keeping in mind my mom's rapidly deteriorating health and how for a guy a parents declining health is going to be viewed as a huge red flag

Hence the reason why i am seeking consensus on the issue based on the experiences of people
 
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For the record. Me and my dad will look after my mom even after my marriage, this will not be the spouses responsibility. But unfortunately given the times and era we live in today, a guys mother or father being extremely unwell is a big redflag for the girls side of the family and they will have fears that their daughter will be playing the role of a full time caregiver.

My phuppo did it for my phuppa for his parents for a good 6 years after marriage while my phuppa was focusing full time during the day on his business.
Thr is no record,,,which has to be set straight,in the first place.
U r in an anonymous forum friend,,dont worry.
I hope ur reply was not coz of my post,,,coz I,,in no way i insinuated anything related to what u r explaining.
Bhai,,,my advice,,,plz consult a specialist.
 
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My mother's Parkinson's and neurological disorder has really accelerated at record speed in the last 2 years especially in the last 6 months.

She used to be a strong solid active independent woman all her life and now her world has completely turned upside down and now she is completely dependent on her kids, relatives and friends. Her day to day functioning, speech has been badly affected and it scares the daylights out of us imagining her having to climb stairs. We have miraculously got her to agree to a part time helper who comes 3 days a week for 2 hours but she clearly needs a lot lot more.

In the last 6 months I have seen her breakdown a good 30 times because of her condition and the fact she knows she isn't what she used to be. We have all tried our best to help her and make her comfortable as much as possible but there are times when even my dad gets very distressed by her emotional blackmailing.

My dad was looking forward to working for the next 5 years at his high profile job given that he has always been a workaholic all his life but he is now contemplating quitting and retiring much earlier than he anticipated and my biggest fear is that taking care of my mom full time is going to take a toll on him and I have observed many people go downhill rapidly after retirement.

So far my baby sister was keeping an eye on mom while me and dad went to work. But this week my baby sister got married and has moved to the next phase of her life. My biggest fear is that this is going to have a huge toll on my mom and my baby sister and mom were extremely close and her no longer being around is going to have an adverse impact.

I myself am not reassessing my professional direction and I now want to quit accounting and perhaps now try hard to get into a govt job so that I can have much friendly work hours and can be home at frequent time periods and be free on the weekends as well.

I am now 35 years old and the only unmarried child left now and am next in line. My moms condition has been clearly visible to all my extended relatives, grand mother, aunts. They have all told me along with my dad that if my age alone wasn't enough of a problem, my mother's condition is now going to be a big problem and now definitely no parent will give their daughter out of fear that their daughter is going to be burdened with taking care of her.

There is a family who are our extended relatives and they have constantly been lobbying with my grandmother, extended relatives behind the scenes for the last 6 years to get my parents to make a proposal for their daughter for me.

I never personally had any problem with the girl or her family. In fact the biggest plus point is that the girls parents are extremely wonderful shareef people who according to my parents, elders will actually love, respect me like a son and overlook my poor social skills, Aspergers Syndrome and are prepared to accept our union knowing my moms condition. My only issue with the girl is that she in the six years I have observed her in all family functions, never talks to anyone, stays aloof in a corner, I have never seen her smile, life and you dont get any impression or semblance of any personality

My aunt broke down today while lobbying and trying to convince me to accept the girl and the family and be considered to my parents especially my mom and her condition.

A few years ago I would have been like, hell with it, il wait patiently till the right person comes along irrespective of how old I get, but now the situation is completely different and I now would like to give my parents especially my mom comfort and peace of mind by settling down before her condition really deteriorates.

Have tried very hard to think about this and can still not come to a decision. The pros are definitely the girls parents, their shareef, loving nature, the cons are I have known the girl for six years and I am struggling to force myself to feel for her or look at her that way, will I be making the right decision in agreeing to marry her and spend the rest of my life with her because of her parents or is there a risk that I may be unhappy, bored, depressed being in a relationship devoid of love, chemistry, passion and what is a compromise, will it last? What if going forward when I am married with kids, I run into someone I really like and makes me feel alive again?

The feedback I have from my friends and others is mixed, equal mix of people saying "dude just get married for the sake of it, do it for the larger picture and do your best to make the most of it, make sacrifices, compromises". The other mix is saying "You will be making the biggest screw up of your life, the girls life and even family relationships by agreeing to this. One day your parents will not be here and you will have to live with this decision for the rest of your life"

I have to make a decision on this in the next 1-2 weeks as the family pressure is really getting brutal and I don't think I can deal with my moms emotional blackmailing anymore. Would love to hear people share their opinions, experiences and anecdotes.
Man, have some balls and speak to the girl directly and what her opinion is. end of story; then take a decision.

Please don’t marry someone so the girl can take full time job taking care of your mom. She will be getting married to you. Not anyone else. Respecting and taking care of parents is a must for a daughter in law, but she is not “the help”. She can either look after her married life ie you or your mom which isn’t what marriages are about.

I suggest, hire an extra help so helping your mom out is not burden on you or your wife. It will allow a chance for your marriage to grow as well. Otherwise, believe me, there will be lots of complaining and arguing.

I hope Allah swt gives shifa and strength to your mom. Ameen.
that is generally the expectation; not to marry the man but rather to take care of the parents.
 
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@Savak

Sorry to hear about your mother, it is painful to watch a parent (or a loved-one) deteroriate to the point of no return over time. I bear witness to this unfortunate situation in my circle of relatives.

Anyways:-

(1) I would caution against expecting your WIFE to be the 'primary caretaker' of your mother for long-term. Your sister 'was' a different matter in comparison until her marriage (good decision; she have a life of her own).

(2) The girl for whom your hand is sought for, why not talk to her? Does she find you acceptable? Is she willing to take care of your mother? Does she have any reservations? What she expect from a potential husband?

Remember this. Your wife would have expectations from you as well. She would have her share of dreams as well. You two would have children some day, and child-rearing is physically as well as emotionally demanding stuff. As a good hushand, you would sign up for providing a decent life to her.

Now, of-course, your marriage is not all about HER. She will have to adjust to the conditions in your home, take care of your needs, and help your mother to the extent she can manage, but refer back to (1) above.

Bottomline is the ART OF BALANCING. Make sure that your mother receive professional care (until her last breath), so that your wife does not feel overwhelmed and you two have a decent family life of your own. Refer back to (2); try to talk to the girl in question.

Best wishes.
 
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people who advised that its your duty to take care of mother are right.. It is in Sharia.
May be she is not talking to give the impression that she doesn't talk to 'na-mahram' or she is mature etc.. Don't assume. Clear things out.
Physical attraction is ok (initially, which will fade away anyway) but cultural/thought/etc compatibility is must (if she is graduate or even high school level, then ok). It depends upon age. If she is young, you can 'mould' her or she can adapt your way of thinking. If she is working, then clear things out about her future plans.. Be bold and ask family for arranged dating 3-4 times to clear things out. Don't just assume.
 
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