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The last few years have been really tough for Pakistan with its relationship with the united states. After using its services in Afghanistan, the u s had already dumped Pakistan back on the sanctions list till Libya went out of control---next came Syria and Iraq and then there came a new fighting and conquering force The ISIS.
So---with the release of documents we find that there was no torture that led to the demise of Osama---the truth is that Gen Kiyani gave a phone number to his U S counter part---telling him that this number was possibly associated to someone very close to Osama and as pak did not have the electronic listening capabilities as those of the U S---maybe the americans can do a better job---little did Kiyani know what was coming.
Just after the start of wot in Afghanistan---the americans dumped all the terrorists in Pakistan---they started their push from northern Afghanistan---push the terrorists south and into pakistan's mountain region--the mountain region with mountain ranges between 12000---15000 feet---a no man's land where the writ of pak govt was never enforced.
The Taliban of Mullah Umar wanted to free their land from the americans and thus they attacked the americans---the the u s was not too happy with that---they said okay to a proxy war initiated by by india and these terrorist group called TTP started attacking Pakistan. The relationship between the u s and Pakistan got from bad to worst---the americans chose to blame Pakistan for all the problems the americans were having and when they found Osama----they decided to blast Pakistan with both the barrels. They blamed Pakistan of hiding Osama and giving him refuge---and bragged about their torture techniques as to how they got the info---made movie about it---and literally slammed Pakistan into the dirt.
General Kiyani---spoke out a couple of time but not openly---he just kept quiet out of fear of retaliation from al Qaeda against himself and his family and the u s kept harping on Pakistan. Talks of new sanctions upon pakistan started coming back up one more time.
Anyway---instability raise its ugly head in Libya after failed american intervention---it gae Pakistan a little breathing room---then nother majr failure of the u s policy in Syria and Pakistan became a little more important for the u s---Iraq became more unstable and the americans are getting more confused by the hour and by the day---Pakistan is getting back into the good books again---America wants to get out of Afghanistan and Pakistan will be a great help-----.
And then came the ISIS----it struck like lightening against the American interests in the middle east and suddenly there appeared a major threat of an upheavel and unsettling in all of the middle east. American interests were an open target and the americans were caught with their pants between their ankles---. Isis lashed out with extreme brutality against all those who were associated with the americans in the middle east---.
The americans had already packed their bags and left Iraq----and left Iraq with the Iraqi trained army that was not able to even stand for one day against the isis onslaught and ran away. That was a slap on the big claims of the americans. They were about to leave afghanistan as well and with isis laying claim to afghanistan---the afghan army would be doing the same unless help came from somewhere else.
Thus--re-engage the support of Pakistan military---to this pak military openy stated---you stop allowing india to support TTP terrorists and take those terrorists out in their hiding places in Afghanistan and we will take out those fighting against you in Afghanistan---thus started another new phase of u s Pakistan relationship in the recent past.
The interesting thing is that the afghans govt does not have any money to pay to its employees. If the afghan military folds like the Iraqi military---the Taliban of Mullah Omar will fallback on Kabul and kandhar and take back control as if they never left.
It is amazing that after a certain time---the u s turns away from Pakistan---calls it a pariah nation---then it gets slapped around by Allah---then it comes back---then starts over with its old tricks again and this time it got struck by lightening in the form of isis and By Dianne Feinstein's exposure of the agency's secret papers. There was nothing such as torture of operatives who gave away Osama---it was all made up to make Pakistan look bad. Osama's arrest came out of the phone number given to the u s commander in chief by Kiyani and every thing else was just made up.
After one helicopter was destroyed on the ground---the American forces could not all leave on one helicopter---. They had to wait for 45 minutes for the chinook to come and pick them up after the first helicopter left with Osama's body and that was made possible with the backing of Pakistan army---.
Now the next stage of conflict---india is going to pay a heavy price-the terrorists it supported in Pakistan are going to be neutralized---because they won't find any place to hide in Afghanistan. The freedom fighters will turn their attention back to india---with a few suicide bombings in south india and the foreigners will be packing their bags and running out by the flight loads.
Supporting and planning terrorist activities against Pakistan was a bad bad mistake by india----a complete failure of understanding the long term repurcussions.
So---with the release of documents we find that there was no torture that led to the demise of Osama---the truth is that Gen Kiyani gave a phone number to his U S counter part---telling him that this number was possibly associated to someone very close to Osama and as pak did not have the electronic listening capabilities as those of the U S---maybe the americans can do a better job---little did Kiyani know what was coming.
Just after the start of wot in Afghanistan---the americans dumped all the terrorists in Pakistan---they started their push from northern Afghanistan---push the terrorists south and into pakistan's mountain region--the mountain region with mountain ranges between 12000---15000 feet---a no man's land where the writ of pak govt was never enforced.
The Taliban of Mullah Umar wanted to free their land from the americans and thus they attacked the americans---the the u s was not too happy with that---they said okay to a proxy war initiated by by india and these terrorist group called TTP started attacking Pakistan. The relationship between the u s and Pakistan got from bad to worst---the americans chose to blame Pakistan for all the problems the americans were having and when they found Osama----they decided to blast Pakistan with both the barrels. They blamed Pakistan of hiding Osama and giving him refuge---and bragged about their torture techniques as to how they got the info---made movie about it---and literally slammed Pakistan into the dirt.
General Kiyani---spoke out a couple of time but not openly---he just kept quiet out of fear of retaliation from al Qaeda against himself and his family and the u s kept harping on Pakistan. Talks of new sanctions upon pakistan started coming back up one more time.
Anyway---instability raise its ugly head in Libya after failed american intervention---it gae Pakistan a little breathing room---then nother majr failure of the u s policy in Syria and Pakistan became a little more important for the u s---Iraq became more unstable and the americans are getting more confused by the hour and by the day---Pakistan is getting back into the good books again---America wants to get out of Afghanistan and Pakistan will be a great help-----.
And then came the ISIS----it struck like lightening against the American interests in the middle east and suddenly there appeared a major threat of an upheavel and unsettling in all of the middle east. American interests were an open target and the americans were caught with their pants between their ankles---. Isis lashed out with extreme brutality against all those who were associated with the americans in the middle east---.
The americans had already packed their bags and left Iraq----and left Iraq with the Iraqi trained army that was not able to even stand for one day against the isis onslaught and ran away. That was a slap on the big claims of the americans. They were about to leave afghanistan as well and with isis laying claim to afghanistan---the afghan army would be doing the same unless help came from somewhere else.
Thus--re-engage the support of Pakistan military---to this pak military openy stated---you stop allowing india to support TTP terrorists and take those terrorists out in their hiding places in Afghanistan and we will take out those fighting against you in Afghanistan---thus started another new phase of u s Pakistan relationship in the recent past.
The interesting thing is that the afghans govt does not have any money to pay to its employees. If the afghan military folds like the Iraqi military---the Taliban of Mullah Omar will fallback on Kabul and kandhar and take back control as if they never left.
It is amazing that after a certain time---the u s turns away from Pakistan---calls it a pariah nation---then it gets slapped around by Allah---then it comes back---then starts over with its old tricks again and this time it got struck by lightening in the form of isis and By Dianne Feinstein's exposure of the agency's secret papers. There was nothing such as torture of operatives who gave away Osama---it was all made up to make Pakistan look bad. Osama's arrest came out of the phone number given to the u s commander in chief by Kiyani and every thing else was just made up.
After one helicopter was destroyed on the ground---the American forces could not all leave on one helicopter---. They had to wait for 45 minutes for the chinook to come and pick them up after the first helicopter left with Osama's body and that was made possible with the backing of Pakistan army---.
Now the next stage of conflict---india is going to pay a heavy price-the terrorists it supported in Pakistan are going to be neutralized---because they won't find any place to hide in Afghanistan. The freedom fighters will turn their attention back to india---with a few suicide bombings in south india and the foreigners will be packing their bags and running out by the flight loads.
Supporting and planning terrorist activities against Pakistan was a bad bad mistake by india----a complete failure of understanding the long term repurcussions.
. so dont call it.. or i will report to MOD 
