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India has just recently adopted the path of ICBM missiles India has two platforms Sagarika and K4. There is a big question that has gone unanswered, India is developing missiles but can it arm them?
Because till date India has not tested a HEU-based Nuclear Weapons or Pu 239 or 238 based bomb so the the big question is that can India arm those missile with a nuclear bomb as Indian nuclear program is based on Pu 240 which has a high rate of spontaneous fission, meaning that the plutonium in the device will continually produce many background neutrons. This type of design for a nuclear bomb cannot be used in any of Indian missiles. So either India has untested Nuclear warheads for it's missiles or there are no nuclear war heads at all in those missiles and they are just a hoax.

The link below will provide more info about the Pu 240 bomb design and why it cannot be used on a missile.
http://www.ccnr.org/reactor_plute.html

The conclusion is that India and It's Nukes cannot be delivered and are not a threat to Pakistan. This might be the very reason for India not taking the path of a more nuclear approach and opting for a cold start doctrine.

India is investing heavily in the anti ballistic missiles system and conventional weaponry and has always raised voice against Pakistani HEU-based nuclear program and tactical nuclear weapons.
If the problem above is what India facing Pakistan might be never facing a retaliation from India in case of a Nuclear strike and this might be the very reason that India maintains the policy of No first Nuclear Strike because they till date cannot strike a Nuke on any country and can't arm their missiles with a nuclear bomb.
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oh bbboy the gey hind modi brigade is about to march in with their :lol:s and their :omghaha:s and screaming about how delusional you are and how that scholarly link is your day dreaming and how india has the only and the best nucYAlar scientists and engineers in the world and how agni is the besHt in the warlad! 8-)
 
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oh bbboy the gey hind modi brigade is about to march in with their :lol:s and their :omghaha:s and screaming about how delusional you are and how that scholarly link is your day dreaming and how india has the only and the best nucYAlar scientists and engineers in the world and how agni is the besHt in the warlad! 8-)
What ever they say Indians have not tested a device other than a Plutonium 240 and they cannot put that type of bomb on a missile so lets see what logic they provide and if they start on with me being stupid then it will be clear they have no answer to it.
 
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What ever they say Indians have not tested a device other than a Plutonium 240 and they cannot put that type of bomb on a missile so lets see what logic they provide and if they start on with me being stupid then it will be clear they have no answer to it.
so clarify for me why a warhead can't be made ouf plutonium 240? I'm no nuclear expert so excuse my stupid questions in advance.
 
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so clarify for me why a warhead can't be made ouf plutonium 240? I'm no nuclear expert so excuse my stupid questions in advance.
Plutonium 240 is a reactor grade Plutonium and not a weapons grade Plutonium. Plutonium 240 is a hard gamma emitter. Making a nuclear bomb is easy with it but you cannot make a delivery system for such a bomb.
1. the bomb will be low yield
2. it will be a very heavier design and very large design so SLBM or SLCM cannot carry it as it will not fit in a launch tubes of a submarine.
3. Continues emitting of hard Gamma will ignite the rocket fuel so you have to place in the very heavy lead shielding if this type of bomb is placed on agni 5 the range will be at max 5 km or it might not even take off. It is like launching a space shuttle. So India has a problem on hand either do new tests and face sanction and there is a high probability that new designs might not work. Remember why USA said that North Korea never had a way to deliver Nuclear bombs on the previous Nuclear experiments it did but USA changed it's stance on the recent Nuclear explosion and became worried because previous were Pu 240 but the recent test North Korea did was of a bigger yield and was Pu 239 or HEU
 
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Plutonium 240 is a reactor grade Plutonium and not a weapons grade Plutonium. Plutonium 240 is a hard gamma emitter. Making a nuclear bomb is easy with it but you cannot make a delivery system for such a bomb.
1. the bomb will be low yield
2. it will be a very heavier design and very large design so SLBM or SLCM cannot carry it as it will not fit in a launch tubes of a submarine.
3. Continues emitting of hard Gamma will ignite the rocket fuel so you have to place in the very heavy lead shielding if this type of bomb is placed on agni 5 the range will be at max 5 km or it might not even take off. It is like launching a space shuttle. So India has a problem on hand either do new tests and face sanction and there is a high probability that new designs might not work. Remember why USA said that North Korea never had a way to deliver Nuclear bombs on the previous Nuclear experiments it did but USA changed it's stance on the recent Nuclear explosion and became worried because previous were Pu 240 but the recent test North Korea did was of a bigger yield and was Pu 239 or HEU
I see.

well maybe that's why the indians call it the agni "5"...for it's only 5km range! :p:
 
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I see.

well maybe that's why the indians call it the agni "5"...for it's only 5km range! :p:
lol, India has a big issue at hand if they don't come up with a solution. This would means that North Korea is a more capable nation than India. And I think that "5" in Agni 5 means 5 km range.
 
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Plutonium 240 is a reactor grade Plutonium and not a weapons grade Plutonium. Plutonium 240 is a hard gamma emitter. Making a nuclear bomb is easy with it but you cannot make a delivery system for such a bomb.
1. the bomb will be low yield
2. it will be a very heavier design and very large design so SLBM or SLCM cannot carry it as it will not fit in a launch tubes of a submarine.
3. Continues emitting of hard Gamma will ignite the rocket fuel so you have to place in the very heavy lead shielding if this type of bomb is placed on agni 5 the range will be at max 5 km or it might not even take off. It is like launching a space shuttle. So India has a problem on hand either do new tests and face sanction and there is a high probability that new designs might not work. Remember why USA said that North Korea never had a way to deliver Nuclear bombs on the previous Nuclear experiments it did but USA changed it's stance on the recent Nuclear explosion and became worried because previous were Pu 240 but the recent test North Korea did was of a bigger yield and was Pu 239 or HEU

Bollywood only bla bla :blah:bla..
5 km :rofl:
Oh thanks for the info thats why they are puting shelds everywher ...
But ...Ababeel...:mod:...now their billlion $ sheld :suicide2:
 
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your words of "wisdom" on this? and don't say Russia tested it for you, they're weak and irrelevant, remember? :lol:
Why would Russia give them the design they will not buy the BDM systems or S300 from Russia for billions of dollars that is why India is moving towards France as a new master.
 
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"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
-William Shakespeare (Hamlet)

If it's true then it's one of those OMG moments!!! It may be the biggest news since the third battle of Panipat!!!!

Who knows this may be the reason Indians don't venture beyond proxies sent from Afganistan/Iran etc....
 
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Whether their nuclear program is an empty threat or not, Pakistan should still keep advancing their own nuclear program full steam ahead.
Why do you even think we are stopping. We need enough Nukes to bomb every Indian city twice.
 
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