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Is IMF under Indian economic chief Gita Gopinath fudging Indian economic growth?

While there's you - with all your edumucation - finding it hard to follow why an Indian citizen and a former minister of an Indian state with power to subjucate Pakistan will not want to.

@Blacklight @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @ali_raza @aliyusuf @StormBreaker @mingle @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE
Indians don't conspire against Pakistan at all.

It's just sometime few hundred fake media outlets operated by India are caught spreading fake news about Pakistan.. sometimes they are caught manipulating Canadian parliamentarians etc...

I mean come on.. Indians don't conspire.. it's not in their nature.
 
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International Monetary Fund (IMF) since 1950.[2] Due to unpredictable nature of the economy and heavily dependent on imports, IMF has given loan to Pakistan on twenty-two occasions since its membership, recent in 2019.[3] Wikipedia

Its obtained bailout loans 22 times and during payment periods has approached the IMF for making amendments to those payments when it could not keep to its agreements
 
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Pakistan has gone to the IMF 32 times I beleive. Other countries may go once maybe twice to sort themselves out but 32 must be a world record by a long long margin.

You also love quoting over and over and over and over the same article from SPUTNIK NEWS. That font of reliable information. I mean anyone here just google Pakistan and terror or just Pakistan as reported by SPUTNIK and have a laugh
if pakistan had the kind of aid u received 65b from us alone and countless others
we would never need a structural loans from imf.
and btw the whole freaking reserves of ur country
they r fed loans.so do some research before spitting against pakistan
u can also make a world record by making record numbers of toilets this year
but u still hold world record for most rapes
 
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IMF Indian 1.9 economic growth prediction is ludicrous, says former India's chief economic advisor.

Growth could be 3 or 4 negative!!




@BHarwana your thoughts?

Idiots .
It is not the sole decision of Miss Gita Gopinath.It is decided by probably a group of experts
She is one of us ,from Kerala .
And so Gita Gopinath wont allow tarnish her professonalism.

The idea Gopinath sits fixing Indian figures is just plain laughable. Gopinath is involved in the WORLD OVERVIEW and does not deal in manipulating figures from India or Pakistan or any other country.
This of course is a result of the very poor education Pakistanis in all walks suffer from. To them the world has nothing better to do than hatch conspiracies against Pakistan and Pakistanis while favouring Indians in every aspect of life

Not only that the lady is from a royal family that has a history hardcore communism .
Former Parlimentarian Mr AK Gopalan is related to her through paternal side

they use females to get around
in every country they would use hi ey traps to get things done and coupled with there khidmati attitude and kissass faces m sure depressed americans do get along pretty well some times
until someone just shaft the indians the other way
there gobar is being served to western hemisphere day and night
they r and were always weaklings history is witness to there monkey games and how every 20/30 years some afghan or turk had to step in and beat the shit out of them
thanks to brits they r for once independent again now god save the world
but m happy people r slowly waking up to the indian drama
there cancer is spreading unchecked from last 30 years in every part of globe

You serves that madrassa education really well
 
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You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe the chief economist of the IMF went and changed the figures for India. Not only would that be grossly unprofessional, She would be sacked instantly. No ifs nobuts.

IMF is not Pakistan's ministry of disinformation or any Pakistani ministry, which lie on an hourly basis and see no problems doing it.

Gita Gopinath is a hard core Modi Hating Hindutva Hating COMMUNIST.

She used to be the economic adviser to Kerala communist govt.

It is laughable to hear someone claim she will support Modi govt. :lol:
 
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Numbers. Numbers. Numbers.

Frankly, it is immaterial what IMF says about the growth rates of IndianEconomy. Or WB or ABD.

All of the WashingtonConcensus Instruements of Policy Implementation .... these Institutions or better still PolicyInstruements don't do this for the sake of emperical honesty but to make sure that the DollarSystem remains in tact...which is vital for the CombinedWest. Logically. And why not!

The West created the modern world and has been dominating it totally for TWO centuries at least... so why should they let go of their prime position in the Pyramid of Global Hierachy? No one will do so voluntarily... FACT!

With fall of the Soviets the leverage that India could enjoy with the CombinedWest also went down...now it could not play hard to get! As it did through Non-Aligned Movement ... gaining benefits from both the US led CombinedWest and the Soviets... herein was also ChinaFactor.

With Nixon's 'opening up' of China.... China had agreed to become part of the DollarSystem and the socalled Globalisation started. Enough on this one to avoid too much detail for fear of distraction from the main theme.

What is Globalisation?
Is it mere relocation of factories to developing world?
CheapLabour?


The QuintEssence of Globalisation was/is Financialisation of Everything!

Everything else just was foundational requirement to enlarge the DollarSystem to entire globe....

And with PolicyInstruements like IMF, WB, ADB etc.... this could shape the Global Financial Architecture ... properly monitored by BIS. Once again why not!

All Systems seeks to preserve/advance/sustain themselves at all costs.... so why not DollarSystem. A detached understanding is imperative...otherwise, we run from pole to pillar... with impotent anguish!

Be it helicopter money or QEs ...it all could be done because there was an EmergingMarket landscape to buy-out Inflation just to remain in DollarSystem.... this should sufice for fundamental understanding as to why the US has been so successful to keep the Dollar strong while printing it with total abandon.... Any other state would have beomce like Zimbawae long before .... Take Pakistan as example!

But there were some problems also with FinancialisingEverything.... as we saw in the collapse of LehmanBrothers or other lenders.... because Driviates in the Hands of Masters of the Universe became never ending rallies... while global GDP remained for what its a mere $86Trillion ... while DeriviateMarketSize is $1200Trillion....

So the WorldGDP needs to grow at any cost or the Biggest Bubble in history will go boom....taking with it the DollarSystem.

China, GCC, JP, SK and other EmergingMarkets
have now too much holdings of this 'Exported Inflaction'.... something gotta give!

Perhaps it is safe to say that the DollarSystem is the reason for the prosperity and life-style of the CombinedWest ... though purchasing power is going down in the CombinedWest landscapre as well... but the DollarSystem and its main beneficitiary have NEVER had so good .... and they wish to rightfully, from their perspective, keep it this way. Logical!

AsianTigers of ASEAN... boom then bust with currency crisis... then China bailed the ASEAN out by not devaluating its currency.... @Shotgunner51

So the DollarSystem dones't have a problem of Liquidity.... it has problem of underwritting... hence, the Globalisation will continue and no jobs/manufacturing is going to go home. Simple!

Asia is the Only place where next thirty years of Growth is most likely.

Now in this conext we need to understand the IMF, WB, ADB or other rating agencies supporting India Next Big Thing narrative... and why not! Logical!


India's near default and then rescue by the IMF... MM Singh got the credit for the 'imported' reforms....but the Indian economy got some structural shape to have some kind of foundational underpinning for the DollarSystem to integerate it into the Masters of the Universe Pyramid.

The relaxation of visa regime for Indians to the US and all those lofty words/platitudes and then massive aid
... from Cliton to Trump.... this is all part of that longterm plan of creating another China like production lines so that the Financialisation of Everything could continue.... India would get GDP growth.... DollarSystem will get a larger underwritter to be integerated into FED swap window. And once again..why not!

In the intial phase the idea was to boost trade between the US and India upto $500Bln .... but for that ModiRegime needed to do certain things...

Also, important here that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem is NOT going to create another China to deal with in next twenty/thirty years.... so not all eggs would be coming to Indian basket.

ModiRegime has been big on soundbites and very low on delivery as it is necessary/demanded by the DollarSystem... namely, privatisation of SOEs, liberalisation of land and labour laws and legal cover/protection for investments and bigger % of ownership.

Unlike China ... India is not in a position to negotiate from position of strength regarding ACTUAL transfer of key Technologies... key to be anything in the Global TechnoFeudalHierachy!

Also, the Infrastructure in India is not condusive to mass manufacturing and seamless logistics or just-in-time SupplyChainManagement.

We have seen the Development Models of ASEAN and China ...where there was very clear longterm roadmap of development.

Singapore was an elected Dictatorship which kept on dilvering consistently... so were in practice the good years of Malaysia.... Vietnam is now following the same model rather well!

The FlightPath to enter into MiddleIncome country won't go hand-in-hand with Liberalism of the CombinedWest in barely developing countries @Reddington It does make the upper middle class feel good and chatty or the media to punch some catchy headlines... ground realities dont change.

Now looking at the Indian performance of ServicesDelivery, which is the measure of Functionality of Governance, can it be said to be equal or better than Vietnam..let alone Singapore or Malaysia?

How many Indian universities are in top 100 or 200 WorldClass universities?

India can produce, perhaps, half a million of engineers a year...but what is the quality of these graduates?

What is overall Quality of Education and Skill Levels of average Indians?.... Compared to the ASEAN/China????

India can surely become a $7 trillion economy but it has to do deep structural reforms... which will be painful to say the least... It also has to upgrade its infrastructure to 21st Century standards ... in total Indian needs to invest $3Trillion in development and upgradation of its Infrastructure and also spend heavily in its educational system as well with equal urgency.

The above would mean privatisation and borrowing... Borrowing won't be a problem in DollarSystem...but the colletral is what India fears...and shies away at everymoment.

But one thing is certain that India has now fully committed itself to DollarSystem ...which is why BRICS is DeadDonkey and SCO presence of India is cerimonial at best.

The holding back of full scale dive into DollarSystem is sytemic problems in the financial sector of India with too much NPLs.... monitisation of currency printing/debt and no reforms ... all these combined will create major problems not in too distant future.

The jobless growth was driven by the Stockmarket FDI and not actual expansion of industrial output.... and with the KhooniVirus having a field day... hot money left the market...as in every emerging market and tried seek shelter under the FED stimulus or simply buy dollars.

Some factories will relocate out of China..the process is not new... just masla added for eyeballs... al the Sunset Industries were/are planned to leave as China wishes to climb up in the ValueChain of Manufacturing.... Pak SEZs or BD SEZ were to host these Sunset industries.... some already moved to Vietnam....

In a nutshell India has to do a few things for the DollarSystem if it wishes to profit from it and become part of the CombinedWest.....

GCC was the first to look to India for investments...as it is part of the CombinedWest or better said DollarSystem... and then there was the US prompting as there as well.

All in all the DollarSystem and its PolicyInstruements will say or do anything that can preseve or advance the System.... why not again... this is what Systems do.


Just packing factories from China and unpacking them in India is fanciful at best...given the skill levels are not there. Also the discipline of the workforce and labour laws... political stability and predictablity of policies are key requirements for such an enterprise.

My sense is that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem will spread the factories to as many as possible EmergingMarkets to broaden the base for DollarSystem so that already FinancialisedEverything can be sustained..if not expand.

Just to be brutally honest... Pakistan is still fiddling with SEZ oprationalisation .... it should have by now created dedicated SEZ for Germany, Japan, China, SK and the US.... each with its own dedicated SEZ...

The paralysis of GoP and absense of Clear Roadmap towards Industrialisation is painfully apparent. Wrote a lot about it...now too painful...hence, a BemusedObserver!

The fundamental difference between the Chinese and Indians is that of work ethics and behaviour.... Where the Chinese ..or better said EastAsian are more disciplined with higher impulse controle and willingness to learn/adopt/put in long hours... Indians tend to be more impulsive, less disciplined and generally easy going... It is not meant as some silly racism but as comparative benchmarkt required for Industrialisation.

Studious vs Impulsive

Short term vs Long term

Unless we know the length and breadth of Indian NPLs and EfficiencyQuotient of its SOEs ... numbers don't matter. And what everyone fails to appreciate is the PensionCrisis that is just around the corner for India... despite have very young population....

Indian government is too large and too expensive .... Pension. Pensions. Pensions.

Same goes for Pakistan as well!

What we have seen in the Western media regarding IoJK or Muslims of MaqboozaHindustan was/is a pressure tactic for ModiRegime to shape up and focus on agreed things to open up the economy for the DollarSystem to make a nest.

GCC is just adding the need push the above mention pressure tactic @Ace of Spades


Mangus

P.S. It is useless to compare Pakistan to India ....in the context above.... India is the only country in Asia/World which has to potential to become a Challenger to China if it fully integerated into the DollarSystem. Choise is Indian...conseqences for everyone!
 
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Numbers. Numbers. Numbers.

Frankly, it is immaterial what IMF says about the growth rates of IndianEconomy. Or WB or ABD.

All of the WashingtonConcensus Instruements of Policy Implementation .... these Institutions or better still PolicyInstruements don't do this for the sake of emperical honesty but to make sure that the DollarSystem remains in tact...which is vital for the CombinedWest. Logically. And why not!

The West created the modern world and has been dominating it totally for TWO centuries at least... so why should they let go of their prime position in the Pyramid of Global Hierachy? No one will do so voluntarily... FACT!

With fall of the Soviets the leverage that India could enjoy with the CombinedWest also went down...now it could not play hard to get! As it did through Non-Aligned Movement ... gaining benefits from both the US led CombinedWest and the Soviets... herein was also ChinaFactor.

With Nixon's 'opening up' of China.... China had agreed to become part of the DollarSystem and the socalled Globalisation started. Enough on this one to avoid too much detail for fear of distraction from the main theme.

What is Globalisation?
Is it mere relocation of factories to developing world?
CheapLabour?


The QuintEssence of Globalisation was/is Financialisation of Everything!

Everything else just was foundational requirement to enlarge the DollarSystem to entire globe....

And with PolicyInstruements like IMF, WB, ADB etc.... this could shape the Global Financial Architecture ... properly monitored by BIS. Once again why not!

All Systems seeks to preserve/advance/sustain themselves at all costs.... so why not DollarSystem. A detached understanding is imperative...otherwise, we run from pole to pillar... with impotent anguish!

Be it helicopter money or QEs ...it all could be done because there was an EmergingMarket landscape to buy-out Inflation just to remain in DollarSystem.... this should sufice for fundamental understanding as to why the US has been so successful to keep the Dollar strong while printing it with total abandon.... Any other state would have beomce like Zimbawae long before .... Take Pakistan as example!

But there were some problems also with FinancialisingEverything.... as we saw in the collapse of LehmanBrothers or other lenders.... because Driviates in the Hands of Masters of the Universe became never ending rallies... while global GDP remained for what its a mere $86Trillion ... while DeriviateMarketSize is $1200Trillion....

So the WorldGDP needs to grow at any cost or the Biggest Bubble in history will go boom....taking with it the DollarSystem.

China, GCC, JP, SK and other EmergingMarkets
have now too much holdings of this 'Exported Inflaction'.... something gotta give!

Perhaps it is safe to say that the DollarSystem is the reason for the prosperity and life-style of the CombinedWest ... though purchasing power is going down in the CombinedWest landscapre as well... but the DollarSystem and its main beneficitiary have NEVER had so good .... and they wish to rightfully, from their perspective, keep it this way. Logical!

AsianTigers of ASEAN... boom then bust with currency crisis... then China bailed the ASEAN out by not devaluating its currency.... @Shotgunner51

So the DollarSystem dones't have a problem of Liquidity.... it has problem of underwritting... hence, the Globalisation will continue and no jobs/manufacturing is going to go home. Simple!

Asia is the Only place where next thirty years of Growth is most likely.

Now in this conext we need to understand the IMF, WB, ADB or other rating agencies supporting India Next Big Thing narrative... and why not! Logical!


India's near default and then rescue by the IMF... MM Singh got the credit for the 'imported' reforms....but the Indian economy got some structural shape to have some kind of foundational underpinning for the DollarSystem to integerate it into the Masters of the Universe Pyramid.

The relaxation of visa regime for Indians to the US and all those lofty words/platitudes and then massive aid
... from Cliton to Trump.... this is all part of that longterm plan of creating another China like production lines so that the Financialisation of Everything could continue.... India would get GDP growth.... DollarSystem will get a larger underwritter to be integerated into FED swap window. And once again..why not!

In the intial phase the idea was to boost trade between the US and India upto $500Bln .... but for that ModiRegime needed to do certain things...

Also, important here that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem is NOT going to create another China to deal with in next twenty/thirty years.... so not all eggs would be coming to Indian basket.

ModiRegime has been big on soundbites and very low on delivery as it is necessary/demanded by the DollarSystem... namely, privatisation of SOEs, liberalisation of land and labour laws and legal cover/protection for investments and bigger % of ownership.

Unlike China ... India is not in a position to negotiate from position of strength regarding ACTUAL transfer of key Technologies... key to be anything in the Global TechnoFeudalHierachy!

Also, the Infrastructure in India is not condusive to mass manufacturing and seamless logistics or just-in-time SupplyChainManagement.

We have seen the Development Models of ASEAN and China ...where there was very clear longterm roadmap of development.

Singapore was an elected Dictatorship which kept on dilvering consistently... so were in practice the good years of Malaysia.... Vietnam is now following the same model rather well!

The FlightPath to enter into MiddleIncome country won't go hand-in-hand with Liberalism of the CombinedWest in barely developing countries @Reddington It does make the upper middle class feel good and chatty or the media to punch some catchy headlines... ground realities dont change.

Now looking at the Indian performance of ServicesDelivery, which is the measure of Functionality of Governance, can it be said to be equal or better than Vietnam..let alone Singapore or Malaysia?

How many Indian universities are in top 100 or 200 WorldClass universities?

India can produce, perhaps, half a million of engineers a year...but what is the quality of these graduates?

What is overall Quality of Education and Skill Levels of average Indians?.... Compared to the ASEAN/China????

India can surely become a $7 trillion economy but it has to do deep structural reforms... which will be painful to say the least... It also has to upgrade its infrastructure to 21st Century standards ... in total Indian needs to invest $3Trillion in development and upgradation of its Infrastructure and also spend heavily in its educational system as well with equal urgency.

The above would mean privatisation and borrowing... Borrowing won't be a problem in DollarSystem...but the colletral is what India fears...and shies away at everymoment.

But one thing is certain that India has now fully committed itself to DollarSystem ...which is why BRICS is DeadDonkey and SCO presence of India is cerimonial at best.

The holding back of full scale dive into DollarSystem is sytemic problems in the financial sector of India with too much NPLs.... monitisation of currency printing/debt and no reforms ... all these combined will create major problems not in too distant future.

The jobless growth was driven by the Stockmarket FDI and not actual expansion of industrial output.... and with the KhooniVirus having a field day... hot money left the market...as in every emerging market and tried seek shelter under the FED stimulus or simply buy dollars.

Some factories will relocate out of China..the process is not new... just masla added for eyeballs... al the Sunset Industries were/are planned to leave as China wishes to climb up in the ValueChain of Manufacturing.... Pak SEZs or BD SEZ were to host these Sunset industries.... some already moved to Vietnam....

In a nutshell India has to do a few things for the DollarSystem if it wishes to profit from it and become part of the CombinedWest.....

GCC was the first to look to India for investments...as it is part of the CombinedWest or better said DollarSystem... and then there was the US prompting as there as well.

All in all the DollarSystem and its PolicyInstruements will say or do anything that can preseve or advance the System.... why not again... this is what Systems do.


Just packing factories from China and unpacking them in India is fanciful at best...given the skill levels are not there. Also the discipline of the workforce and labour laws... political stability and predictablity of policies are key requirements for such an enterprise.

My sense is that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem will spread the factories to as many as possible EmergingMarkets to broaden the base for DollarSystem so that already FinancialisedEverything can be sustained..if not expand.

Just to be brutally honest... Pakistan is still fiddling with SEZ oprationalisation .... it should have by now created dedicated SEZ for Germany, Japan, China, SK and the US.... each with its own dedicated SEZ...

The paralysis of GoP and absense of Clear Roadmap towards Industrialisation is painfully apparent. Wrote a lot about it...now too painful...hence, a BemusedObserver!

The fundamental difference between the Chinese and Indians is that of work ethics and behaviour.... Where the Chinese ..or better said EastAsian are more disciplined with higher impulse controle and willingness to learn/adopt/put in long hours... Indians tend to be more impulsive, less disciplined and generally easy going... It is not meant as some silly racism but as comparative benchmarkt required for Industrialisation.

Studious vs Impulsive

Short term vs Long term

Unless we know the length and breadth of Indian NPLs and EfficiencyQuotient of its SOEs ... numbers don't matter. And what everyone fails to appreciate is the PensionCrisis that is just around the corner for India... despite have very young population....

Indian government is too large and too expensive .... Pension. Pensions. Pensions.

Same goes for Pakistan as well!

What we have seen in the Western media regarding IoJK or Muslims of MaqboozaHindustan was/is a pressure tactic for ModiRegime to shape up and focus on agreed things to open up the economy for the DollarSystem to make a nest.

GCC is just adding the need push the above mention pressure tactic @Ace of Spades


Mangus

P.S. It is useless to compare Pakistan to India ....in the context above.... India is the only country in Asia/World which has to potential to become a Challenger to China if it fully integerated into the DollarSystem. Choise is Indian...conseqences for everyone!

Posts like this is when I wish I had positive ratings to give.
 
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Ok. So now the IMF is out to nail Pakistan and haul up India. :cheesy:

I think its only Fair that you give due credit to great handsome leader imran khan.

pakistani economy in 2018 was 313.13 Billion $.

Under imran khan it Shrank to 284 Billion $ in 2019

and now in 2020 it is expected to shrink further to 275 - 280 Billion $ in 2020.

Meanwhile pakistan debt is 90% of GDP which means 50% of its budget will go just in paying interest for the loans it has taken. 20% will go to the army. Leaving imran khan with 30% of the budget to pay salaries and run pakistan.


So we can all see that the real problem is Nazi Hitler Modi , Hindutva and kashmir.
 
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Numbers. Numbers. Numbers.

Frankly, it is immaterial what IMF says about the growth rates of IndianEconomy. Or WB or ABD.

All of the WashingtonConcensus Instruements of Policy Implementation .... these Institutions or better still PolicyInstruements don't do this for the sake of emperical honesty but to make sure that the DollarSystem remains in tact...which is vital for the CombinedWest. Logically. And why not!

The West created the modern world and has been dominating it totally for TWO centuries at least... so why should they let go of their prime position in the Pyramid of Global Hierachy? No one will do so voluntarily... FACT!

With fall of the Soviets the leverage that India could enjoy with the CombinedWest also went down...now it could not play hard to get! As it did through Non-Aligned Movement ... gaining benefits from both the US led CombinedWest and the Soviets... herein was also ChinaFactor.

With Nixon's 'opening up' of China.... China had agreed to become part of the DollarSystem and the socalled Globalisation started. Enough on this one to avoid too much detail for fear of distraction from the main theme.

What is Globalisation?
Is it mere relocation of factories to developing world?
CheapLabour?


The QuintEssence of Globalisation was/is Financialisation of Everything!

Everything else just was foundational requirement to enlarge the DollarSystem to entire globe....

And with PolicyInstruements like IMF, WB, ADB etc.... this could shape the Global Financial Architecture ... properly monitored by BIS. Once again why not!

All Systems seeks to preserve/advance/sustain themselves at all costs.... so why not DollarSystem. A detached understanding is imperative...otherwise, we run from pole to pillar... with impotent anguish!

Be it helicopter money or QEs ...it all could be done because there was an EmergingMarket landscape to buy-out Inflation just to remain in DollarSystem.... this should sufice for fundamental understanding as to why the US has been so successful to keep the Dollar strong while printing it with total abandon.... Any other state would have beomce like Zimbawae long before .... Take Pakistan as example!

But there were some problems also with FinancialisingEverything.... as we saw in the collapse of LehmanBrothers or other lenders.... because Driviates in the Hands of Masters of the Universe became never ending rallies... while global GDP remained for what its a mere $86Trillion ... while DeriviateMarketSize is $1200Trillion....

So the WorldGDP needs to grow at any cost or the Biggest Bubble in history will go boom....taking with it the DollarSystem.

China, GCC, JP, SK and other EmergingMarkets
have now too much holdings of this 'Exported Inflaction'.... something gotta give!

Perhaps it is safe to say that the DollarSystem is the reason for the prosperity and life-style of the CombinedWest ... though purchasing power is going down in the CombinedWest landscapre as well... but the DollarSystem and its main beneficitiary have NEVER had so good .... and they wish to rightfully, from their perspective, keep it this way. Logical!

AsianTigers of ASEAN... boom then bust with currency crisis... then China bailed the ASEAN out by not devaluating its currency.... @Shotgunner51

So the DollarSystem dones't have a problem of Liquidity.... it has problem of underwritting... hence, the Globalisation will continue and no jobs/manufacturing is going to go home. Simple!

Asia is the Only place where next thirty years of Growth is most likely.

Now in this conext we need to understand the IMF, WB, ADB or other rating agencies supporting India Next Big Thing narrative... and why not! Logical!


India's near default and then rescue by the IMF... MM Singh got the credit for the 'imported' reforms....but the Indian economy got some structural shape to have some kind of foundational underpinning for the DollarSystem to integerate it into the Masters of the Universe Pyramid.

The relaxation of visa regime for Indians to the US and all those lofty words/platitudes and then massive aid
... from Cliton to Trump.... this is all part of that longterm plan of creating another China like production lines so that the Financialisation of Everything could continue.... India would get GDP growth.... DollarSystem will get a larger underwritter to be integerated into FED swap window. And once again..why not!

In the intial phase the idea was to boost trade between the US and India upto $500Bln .... but for that ModiRegime needed to do certain things...

Also, important here that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem is NOT going to create another China to deal with in next twenty/thirty years.... so not all eggs would be coming to Indian basket.

ModiRegime has been big on soundbites and very low on delivery as it is necessary/demanded by the DollarSystem... namely, privatisation of SOEs, liberalisation of land and labour laws and legal cover/protection for investments and bigger % of ownership.

Unlike China ... India is not in a position to negotiate from position of strength regarding ACTUAL transfer of key Technologies... key to be anything in the Global TechnoFeudalHierachy!

Also, the Infrastructure in India is not condusive to mass manufacturing and seamless logistics or just-in-time SupplyChainManagement.

We have seen the Development Models of ASEAN and China ...where there was very clear longterm roadmap of development.

Singapore was an elected Dictatorship which kept on dilvering consistently... so were in practice the good years of Malaysia.... Vietnam is now following the same model rather well!

The FlightPath to enter into MiddleIncome country won't go hand-in-hand with Liberalism of the CombinedWest in barely developing countries @Reddington It does make the upper middle class feel good and chatty or the media to punch some catchy headlines... ground realities dont change.

Now looking at the Indian performance of ServicesDelivery, which is the measure of Functionality of Governance, can it be said to be equal or better than Vietnam..let alone Singapore or Malaysia?

How many Indian universities are in top 100 or 200 WorldClass universities?

India can produce, perhaps, half a million of engineers a year...but what is the quality of these graduates?

What is overall Quality of Education and Skill Levels of average Indians?.... Compared to the ASEAN/China????

India can surely become a $7 trillion economy but it has to do deep structural reforms... which will be painful to say the least... It also has to upgrade its infrastructure to 21st Century standards ... in total Indian needs to invest $3Trillion in development and upgradation of its Infrastructure and also spend heavily in its educational system as well with equal urgency.

The above would mean privatisation and borrowing... Borrowing won't be a problem in DollarSystem...but the colletral is what India fears...and shies away at everymoment.

But one thing is certain that India has now fully committed itself to DollarSystem ...which is why BRICS is DeadDonkey and SCO presence of India is cerimonial at best.

The holding back of full scale dive into DollarSystem is sytemic problems in the financial sector of India with too much NPLs.... monitisation of currency printing/debt and no reforms ... all these combined will create major problems not in too distant future.

The jobless growth was driven by the Stockmarket FDI and not actual expansion of industrial output.... and with the KhooniVirus having a field day... hot money left the market...as in every emerging market and tried seek shelter under the FED stimulus or simply buy dollars.

Some factories will relocate out of China..the process is not new... just masla added for eyeballs... al the Sunset Industries were/are planned to leave as China wishes to climb up in the ValueChain of Manufacturing.... Pak SEZs or BD SEZ were to host these Sunset industries.... some already moved to Vietnam....

In a nutshell India has to do a few things for the DollarSystem if it wishes to profit from it and become part of the CombinedWest.....

GCC was the first to look to India for investments...as it is part of the CombinedWest or better said DollarSystem... and then there was the US prompting as there as well.

All in all the DollarSystem and its PolicyInstruements will say or do anything that can preseve or advance the System.... why not again... this is what Systems do.


Just packing factories from China and unpacking them in India is fanciful at best...given the skill levels are not there. Also the discipline of the workforce and labour laws... political stability and predictablity of policies are key requirements for such an enterprise.

My sense is that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem will spread the factories to as many as possible EmergingMarkets to broaden the base for DollarSystem so that already FinancialisedEverything can be sustained..if not expand.

Just to be brutally honest... Pakistan is still fiddling with SEZ oprationalisation .... it should have by now created dedicated SEZ for Germany, Japan, China, SK and the US.... each with its own dedicated SEZ...

The paralysis of GoP and absense of Clear Roadmap towards Industrialisation is painfully apparent. Wrote a lot about it...now too painful...hence, a BemusedObserver!

The fundamental difference between the Chinese and Indians is that of work ethics and behaviour.... Where the Chinese ..or better said EastAsian are more disciplined with higher impulse controle and willingness to learn/adopt/put in long hours... Indians tend to be more impulsive, less disciplined and generally easy going... It is not meant as some silly racism but as comparative benchmarkt required for Industrialisation.

Studious vs Impulsive

Short term vs Long term

Unless we know the length and breadth of Indian NPLs and EfficiencyQuotient of its SOEs ... numbers don't matter. And what everyone fails to appreciate is the PensionCrisis that is just around the corner for India... despite have very young population....

Indian government is too large and too expensive .... Pension. Pensions. Pensions.

Same goes for Pakistan as well!

What we have seen in the Western media regarding IoJK or Muslims of MaqboozaHindustan was/is a pressure tactic for ModiRegime to shape up and focus on agreed things to open up the economy for the DollarSystem to make a nest.

GCC is just adding the need push the above mention pressure tactic @Ace of Spades


Mangus

P.S. It is useless to compare Pakistan to India ....in the context above.... India is the only country in Asia/World which has to potential to become a Challenger to China if it fully integerated into the DollarSystem. Choise is Indian...conseqences for everyone!
You've asked some hard hitting questions there. The Indian economy will barely improve unless major reforms take place from ground up. Pakistan can learn from India's mistakes too and who knows, perhaps even teach India a thing or two.

As always, a great read. :-)
 
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Looks like you're mistaken...IMF is not some neighborhood madrassa and Gita Gopinath is not your local mullah to fudge facts and figures

Did you even bothered listening to the debate from your own media? Its not me who is predicating 3 to 4% negative growth of India, its own economic experts sitting in our country who might know the actual situation on the ground rather a RSS Sanghi Gita Gopinath!?

As I said, you turds need to listen to the clip first before your satisfy your itch to write gibberish on this forum.

Just tagging in case this thread goes undetected. @Syama Ayas @Jackdaws @Nilgiri :lol:


Undetected??? LOL. it was put for the WHOLE world to see and question IMF's Indian turd Gita Gopinath and the figures they pulled out from their behind.
 
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Did you even bothered listening to the debate from your own media? Its not me who is predicating 3 to 4% negative growth of India, its own economic experts sitting in our country who might know the actual situation on the ground rather a RSS Sanghi Gita Gopinath!?

As I said, you turds need to listen to the clip first before your satisfy your itch to write gibberish on this forum.

This is the thing I couldn't understand.. Someone posted a video of their own ex economic adviser and they started cursing Pakistan.
 
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Very likely the IMF is going along with fudged economic numbers from India. Even India's former chief economic adviser Arvind Subramanian has said IMF and world bank are being over optimistic on India. The reason is clear. India needs significant foreign investment to get out of its pending financial crisis. If IMF or world bank significantly downgrade their India projections then Wall street and London will park their money some where else. It would make the issues for India much worse.

That's like IMF behaving as a partner in crime, deliberately misinforming the world and investors about actual situation in India on ground.

Lol if these guys instead of wasting their brains of conspiracy theories ,use to study they too could have been at the top of these organizations.


LOL, the guy who is actually making fun of IMF 1.9 growth prediction for India is a ex chief economic advisor to the government of India.
 
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