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Is democracy a failed concept for non-developed countries?

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Democracy seems to breed the most corrupt leadersin non developed countries...Democracy works once a country is already rich or has access to near infinite resources (America in 1776 with free labour and free land)

Democracy failed to give India or Pakistan the promised prosperity..While China stole a march on us...Gentle guiding hand of patriotic authoratarian regimes seems to be the best for dirt poor countries of South Asia...too much energy, attention, resources are lost in the election cycle..not to mention the corruption it engenders...

Why do I say this?..Because after a long time, both India and Pakistan have true patriots at the top post...Giving them extended mandates of around 10-15 years would be beneficial for both countries
 
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Why do you say it is failed in India ??? India has good economic growth since 2000

Actually democracy is fine in Indonesia. The corruption eradication effort is strong since we embrace democracy. In the past under authoritarian rule, we are really really corrupt.

Indonesia GDP, 1997-2000 Financial Crisis, 1998 the start of democracy


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Democracy seems to breed the most corrupt leadersin non developed countries...Democracy works once a country is already rich or has access to near infinite resources (America in 1776 with free labour and free land)

Democracy failed to give India or Pakistan the promised prosperity..While China stole a march on us...Gentle guiding hand of patriotic authoratarian regimes seems to be the best for dirt poor countries of South Asia...too much energy, attention, resources are lost in the election cycle..not to mention the corruption it engenders...

Why do I say this?..Because after a long time, both India and Pakistan have true patriots at the top post...Giving them extended mandates of around 10-15 years would be beneficial for both countries

Why talk only about China ??? Why not North Korea, Myanmar, Venezula ????
 
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Democracy seems to breed the most corrupt leadersin non developed countries...Democracy works once a country is already rich or has access to near infinite resources (America in 1776 with free labour and free land)

Democracy failed to give India or Pakistan the promised prosperity..While China stole a march on us...Gentle guiding hand of patriotic authoratarian regimes seems to be the best for dirt poor countries of South Asia...too much energy, attention, resources are lost in the election cycle..not to mention the corruption it engenders...

Why do I say this?..Because after a long time, both India and Pakistan have true patriots at the top post...Giving them extended mandates of around 10-15 years would be beneficial for both countries

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It will fail---because the foundation is not being built for its success.
 
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It requires a politically conscious society for democracy to take root and become eventually successful. A state can never create a society. In fact, the opposite is true. A society always shapes the nature of a state to manage certain tasks. These are the very basics of social science for the last two millennia. People of under developed countries still foolishly expect that some special politician alone can rescue them out if misery. Can a few people change a society ? Never. Society is simply too complex to be engineered by few individuals. Only evolutionary pressure can achieve this objectives over a span of hundreds of years of natural selections.
 
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yes exactly just look at the pathetic situation of paralyzed democracy in india with full of poverty extremism and stupidity.
 
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Why do you say it is failed in India ??? India has good economic growth since 2000

Actually democracy is fine in Indonesia. The corruption eradication effort is strong since we embrace democracy. In the past under authoritarian rule, we are really really corrupt.

Indonesia GDP, 1997-2000 Financial Crisis, 1998 the start of democracy


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INDIA has a dictatorship type democracy. India economic success is not because of democracy just like UAE economic success is not because of monarchy.
 
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Cherrypicking a few pictures doesn't prove your point. Similar images can be found in non-democratic nations.

If you're going to argue in good faith, I suggest not using pictures like this, because your argument can be easily picked apart, and your credibility ruined.

In fact, @striver44 is right. Liberal democracies are factually the most successful. They have the least poverty rates, have the highest education rates, the highest human development rate, the highest happiness rates, and consistently are the best places to live, they also have the best support programs for their citizens, and tend to be more financially secure. It is not a coincidence that when immigrants move to other countries, they move to liberal democracies.
INDIA has a dictatorship type democracy. India economic success is not because of democracy just like UAE economic success is not because of monarchy.
>dictatorship type democracy

I think the word you're looking for is authoritarian.
 
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Democracy seems to breed the most corrupt leadersin non developed countries...Democracy works once a country is already rich or has access to near infinite resources (America in 1776 with free labour and free land)

Democracy failed to give India or Pakistan the promised prosperity..While China stole a march on us...Gentle guiding hand of patriotic authoratarian regimes seems to be the best for dirt poor countries of South Asia...too much energy, attention, resources are lost in the election cycle..not to mention the corruption it engenders...

Why do I say this?..Because after a long time, both India and Pakistan have true patriots at the top post...Giving them extended mandates of around 10-15 years would be beneficial for both countries



Demo Crazy mate... Demo Crazy...
 
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Nope, Democracy can and is only successful if it's controlled, in an actual democracy the society will fall apart, in every major Democratic country around the world the voices of the masses have been suppressed by the few who have the power to make laws, even US electoral college is a testament of democratic failure when Hilary won to Trump by a Million+ vote and yet she didn't become president.
 
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Cherrypicking a few pictures doesn't prove your point. Similar images can be found in non-democratic nations.

If you're going to argue in good faith, I suggest not using pictures like this, because your argument can be easily picked apart, and your credibility ruined.

In fact, @striver44 is right. Liberal democracies are factually the most successful. They have the least poverty rates, have the highest education rates, the highest human development rate, the highest happiness rates, and consistently are the best places to live, they also have the best support programs for their citizens, and tend to be more financially secure. It is not a coincidence that when immigrants move to other countries, they move to liberal democracies.

>dictatorship type democracy

I think the word you're looking for is authoritarian.
the dirty little secret of these so called "liberal democracies" is colonial might where the vast majority of their wealth comes from not their local democracies but rather from the wealth they stole from the land they colonized and fed their democracies with. the one and only exception to that rule is the u.s. which was in physical protection of the two oceans during to the two ravaging worlds wars. let's get one thing straight, Thailand is a liberal democracy but still poor, zimbabwe is a liberal democracy but still poor, the list goes on and on. liberal democracy is not the answer, education & accountability is. China is a prime example of why democracy isn't the answer, education & accountability is. hope that makes my point of view clear.

and remember, when the west wants to ruin a country, they bring "liberal democracy" to it, not education & accountability. when was the last time you heard of the american president or secretary of state complain about the lack of education or accountability in, say for example, North Korea or Venezuela? no, never. but they'll happily whine about the lack of liberal democracy until pigs fly. pretty obvious why they do so.
 
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