IRST for Pakistan F-16s is possible

[Shah Xaib]

more shopping from america sochna bhi mat

 

[araz]

@smuhs1 is absolutely right....mood in the congress is not conducive for sales to Pakistan right now....better go for systems that can be integrated with the Thunders

It is not sales they ars objecting to as they had approved the sale. It is forking money out to support a sale to PAF which is the issue. It is a different view point and their choice. We should respect that.
It seems however we have decided that for the money required we have other options and moved on. The only reason we stayed back was the deal was too good to be ignored although we should probably have gone for 18 rather than 8. The per unit price may well have gone down. However for the moment we have decided to search elsewhere. Personally I remain sceptical about the prospects of a buy now however nothing is certain till the dotted line is signed on.
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[Beethoven]

@araz agreed but if we had to go for 18 we should have gone for it when the original deal was signed instead of waiting for 10 years to make the choice....the deal for 8 aircraft was called off not because of money but uncertainity....the rumblings in the US Congress had given Pakistan the hint that even if they agree to pay for the craft it carried the risk of getting sanctioned....

 

[Sine Nomine]

We already use the SNIPER pod in that role.

But you know it's no capable as dedicated one.

 

[Viking 63]

Our Military relations with US are over. So Pakistan shouldnt even expect a screw driver from them now. They are not even clearing our requirement for GRC for martime patrol. In short dont waste your time by suggesting american equipment.

I agree it high time that we should end our military relations with USA. world market is over flowing with weapons !!

 

[Super Falcon]

Forget US better for us

 

[SQ8]

But you know it's no capable as dedicated one.

what makes you say that?

 

[Signalian]

We already use the SNIPER pod in that role.

are F-16 ADF carrying it for A2A combat? what about F-16 MLU?

 

[SQ8]

are F-16 ADF carrying it for A2A combat? what about F-16 MLU?

The ADF's cannot carry it yet; the MLU's and Block-52's use it on and off.

 

[The SC]

Our Military relations with US are over. So Pakistan shouldnt even expect a screw driver from them now. They are not even clearing our requirement for GRC for martime patrol. In short dont waste your time by suggesting american equipment.

It was an example for "the possibility", there are many IRST pods manufacturers..My main concern was if it was possible for PAF's F-16s, 'cause it is a force multiplyer in dog fights, the source of the pod can be Chinese , Turkish or from somewhere else , do not get me wrong on that..

 

[Signalian]

Turkish ASELSAN could be offering something.

http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/capabilities/Pages/ASELPOD-Advanced-Targeting-Pod.aspx

ASELPOD provides both video and inertial tracking in two major modes, Air-to-Ground and Air-to-Air mode.

FALCONEYE IRST – High Resolution Electro-Optical Sensor Suite, not sure about use on aircraft.
http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/cap...-high-resolution-electro-optical-sensor-suite

But you know it's no capable as dedicated one.

https://warisboring.com/the-pentago...nemy-stealth-fighters-3acf9d25cd44#.4o8mfoqd5

It can detect and track but i cant find anywhere if it can target.

F-15 C with sniper.

 

[The SC]

Here is a good and comprehensive read about IRST:

Airborne IRST properties and performance

https://defenseissues.wordpress.com/2015/06/16/airborne-irst-properties-and-performance/

We already use the SNIPER pod in that role.

SNIPER uses laser designation which is detectable, IRST pods uses infra Red which is not detectable.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

PAKISTAN SHOULD ALSO CANCEL BELL HELOS DEAL WITH US AND INVEST THAT MONEY TO PROCURE A NEW.FIGHTER PLATFORM....

Can't the AZ-1Z deal was agreed to and signed for payment through the coalition funds. Even if Pakistan renegades on it, you're just wasting the money that was allocated.

Our Military relations with US are over. So Pakistan shouldnt even expect a screw driver from them now.

Grow up, Pakistan will continue to buy US weaponry.

mood in the congress is not conducive for sales to Pakistan right now

Even if tomorrow mood in Congress gets in favor of Pakistan, who can predict their mood day after tomorrow ?
US was never Pakistan's ally, partner, friend or even they don't have similar interests. yes, that was and is one source of Pakistani Politicians and Generals to make money in kick backs.

Grow your economy. With 200 million people, an official GDP of $1 trillion is $5,000 per capita. You'll have plenty of sway.

 

[SQ8]

SNIPER uses laser designation which is detectable, IRST pods uses infra Red which is not detectable.

Clearly you do not know about targeting pods. Please read up.
Features •
1K high-definition, mid-wave targeting forward-looking infrared •
1K high-definition television •
Solid-state digital data recorder enabling cockpit playback and nontraditional intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance • Precision long-range geo-coordinate generation •
Laser lead guidance supporting precise delivery of traditional laser-guided weapons on moving targets •
Passive detection, tracking and ranging for air-to-air and air-to-ground targets
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/mfc/pc/sniper-pod/mfc-sniper-pc.pdf

 

[Pandora]

Can't the AZ-1Z deal was agreed to and signed for payment through the coalition funds. Even if Pakistan renegades on it, you're just wasting the money that was allocated.



Grow up, Pakistan will continue to buy US weaponry.





Grow your economy. With 200 million people, an official GDP of $1 trillion is $5,000 per capita. You'll have plenty of sway.

Let me know when we actually get something from US untill then dont waste my Time. Approval of GR cutter for martime patrol is stuck in congress and you expect us to believe that they will give us Attack helos. AH1Z deal was agreed 4 years back and F16 was negotiated last year. AH1Z has already got the approval so please get your own facts right before contradicting others. Pakistan will not get any approvals for even screw drivers post F16 deal failure.