Iraqi PM visits Iraqi Hezbollah and wears their uniform

[xenon54 out]

NOT A TREATY! did you hear that? so can you accept i am correct that Turkey didnt follow international law when it setup its multiple outposts in northern Iraq some years ago???? You see, what you accused me of(not knowing international law), is what you actually did. smh.

The 'Border Security and Cooperation Treaty' was signed between Turkey and Iraq on February 1983 and the first military operation was made in the same year by the Turkish Armed Forces.[20]:47 Then these military operations repeated several times during the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. Turkey launched 24 military operations to Iraq between 1983 and 2008.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq–Turkey_relations#1990–2003:_First_Gulf_War_and_after

Will you now stop being a smartass and shut up?

^^ I argue the point with him, he resorts to another thing and some pride talk. It's of no use.

The only reason i gave up is because im talking towards ignorants here, sry my time is too precious, do your own research if you are ignorant im not your teacher.
I even give you the small ''victory'' on a internet forum, what are you complaining about?...


Now you guys can continue, i will start, Turks support isis hurr durr...

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I believe Iran and Iraqi sanctions are of the same nature. Nowadays even medicine exports to Iran are subject to ban (harassment). Did Iraq have a medicine ban in the 90-00's ?

There is no similarity, Iran has trade and international flights.

Iraq had a total financial and trade embargo including medicine ban, the country was completely isolated, there were no more international flights, the north and south had no-fly zones. Every airliner was blocked, air cargo blocked, naval access to Iraq's southern ports blocked by the US navy. It's not of a similar nature at all.

Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq

Air was constantly patrolled by fighter jets and cruise missile attacks happened in 3 major waves during the 90's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_cruise_missile_strikes_on_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_cruise_missile_strikes_on_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_bombing_of_Iraq

US was at a state of war with Iraq. It did not end in 1991.

 

[xenon54 out]

Um yes,instead of coming up with childish excusess,you should do some research on why we can just get in and do what we do,maybe there was deal made with Iraq?
Hiding behind NATO for a country like Iraq,really Iraq?

Abi stop wasting your time, they have their own sources, the more anti Turkish it is the more credible for them.

 

[Philosopher]

Popular Mobilisation Forces (PMU) are an integral part of the Iraqi nation. Without their actions against the ISIS menace, Iraq would be looking completely different today, perhaps with ISIS flags flying over many cites. Watch the video below to hear the Iraqi Prime Minister speak to the PMU.

 

[Rukarl]

There is no similarity, Iran has trade and international flights.

Iraq had a total financial and trade embargo including medicine ban, the country was completely isolated, there were no more international flights, the north and south had no-fly zones. Every airliner was blocked, air cargo blocked, naval access to Iraq's southern ports blocked by the US navy. It's not of a similar nature at all.

Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq

Air was constantly patrolled by fighter jets and cruise missile attacks happened in 3 major waves during the 90's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_cruise_missile_strikes_on_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_cruise_missile_strikes_on_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_bombing_of_Iraq

US was at a state of war with Iraq. It did not end in 1991.

I didn't know they were in a state of war since 1991. Was there ever a official declaration of war by the US against Iraq from 1991 ?

 

[Ansu fati]

ad hominem here. You're not countering any real point. this is another reason why i dont give your posts likes.


If you have to ask, there most likely isnt, only for temporary cross border raids probably. I dont believe IRaq formally allowed TUrkey setup military bases in Northern Iraq. Turkey probably did that with US approval. TUrkey always do what US tells TUrkey to do.

Have you seen any lie yet? Afterall, when Turkey ran into Syria, sorry, invaded Syria...and then got "hit"by Russians, who did Turkey try to blackmail for this? Yup- EU...aka NATO brothers... Turkey is either in love with, or devoted to, or a slave of, the white CHrstian alliance called nATO. NATO aka US also, is now forcing Turkey to become friends with ISrael again, so NATO seems to be going for a US-Turkey-ISreal plan to corner Iran in the ME. I hope you guys have real stamina...if you dont need NATO then exit NATO. from tomorrow you will start getting hit and you know it.

You are too much filled with iranian propaganda about ME issues
Turkey severed relations with the west because they want to create kurdish ethnostate but somehow you are claiming Turkey is a US slave
Have you seen the attitude of EU France Germany even Canada did embargo on defense exports
For example turkish submarines(I mean all of them) should’ve been in service by now by Turkey is set to receive the first one only in 2021
Altay tank project which was ready long in 2016 cannot be started due to Germany ban and tell me why is that???
EU issues always pro-pkk statements whenever a mayor who caught red-handed
If you wonder why erdogan is winning general elections then that’s due to arrogant direct and open support to kurdish terrorism by the so called western allies but hey some mullah in Iran has told that Turkey is West’s slave and you gotta believe them
The plan to create kurdish state is destroyed and not practical anymore
also pkk which has extensive ties with both Iran and assad was never a force that will clash with them so finally the US and Israel are showing signs of re-engaging with Turkey
How can Turkey invade Syria when there’s official document signed in Adana 1998 which gives permission for military action inside syrian territory??? We discussed this before but you keep bringing it up once again
And lastly Turkey and Iran were never allies so why you act as if Iran is backstabbed??

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I didn't know they were in a state of war since 1991. Was there ever a official declaration of war by the US against Iraq from 1991 ?

Both house, senate and US president office authorized the war. UNSC authorized. 2003 was another story, although this is the reason many people were happy for 2003, as the lockdown ended.

This is something the average monkey always likes to skip when saying, 'Shias welcomed Americans with open arms lol'.

 

[xenon54 out]

You are too much filled with iranian propaganda about ME issues
Turkey severed relations with the west because they want to create kurdish ethnostate but somehow you are claiming Turkey is a US slave
Have you seen the attitude of EU France Germany even Canada did embargo on defense exports
For example turkish submarines(I mean all of them) should’ve been in service by now by Turkey is set to receive the first one only in 2021
Altay tank project which was ready long in 2016 cannot be started due to Germany ban and tell me why is that???
EU issues always pro-pkk statements whenever a mayor who caught red-handed
If you wonder why erdogan is winning general elections then that’s due to arrogant direct and open support to kurdish terrorism by the so called western allies but hey some mullah in Iran has told that Turkey is West’s slave and you gotta believe them
The plan to create kurdish state is destroyed and not practical anymore
also pkk which has extensive ties with both Iran and assad was never a force that will clash with them so finally the US and Israel are showing signs of re-engaging with Turkey
How can Turkey invade Syria when there’s official document signed in Adana 1998 which gives permission for military action inside syrian territory??? We discussed this before but you keep bringing it up once again
And lastly Turkey and Iran were never allies so why you act as if Iran is backstabbed??

Dude, he claims that Turkey supports isis, one of the few countries that actually had direct fight with them and suffered countless terrorist attacks, you are beating a dead horse here.
Talk to a wall, it at least listens to you.

 

[Falcon29]

Popular Mobilisation Forces (PMU) are an integral part of the Iraqi nation. Without their actions against the ISIS menace, Iraq would be looking completely different today, perhaps with ISIS flags flying over many cites. Watch the video below to hear the Iraqi Prime Minister speak to the PMU.

Not true, they were formed to challenge the Iraqi gov't and do Iran's bidding in Iraq. Iraqi army and security forces did not need them for anything. US coalition and advisers was more than enough to help Iraq deal with ISIS.

 

[Philosopher]

Not true, they were formed to challenge the Iraqi gov't and do Iran's bidding in Iraq. Iraqi army and security forces did not need them for anything. US coalition and advisers was more than enough to help Iraq deal with ISIS.

Go tell the Iraqi Prime Minister that.

 

[Falcon29]

Go tell the Iraqi Prime Minister that.

He's looking after his life , prior to US -Iranian deal on who would succeed Abdelmahdi he was getting threatened by the PMU. They accepted him after Iran struck deal with US and gave them go ahead.

PMU are hated by Iraqis and killed hundreds of protestors and murdered many Iraqi activists just several months ago.

 

[Philosopher]

He's looking after his life , prior to US -Iranian deal on who would succeed Abdelmahdi he was getting threatened by the PMU. They accepted him after Iran struck deal with US and gave them go ahead.

PMU are hated by Iraqis and killed hundreds of protestors and murdered many Iraqi activists just several months ago.

You mean to tell me an organisation is not accepted by everyone in that society? What an utter surprise. Anyway, I consider the word and body language of their Prime Minister to be of more importance than the sort of confirmation bias and borderline conspiracy theories I am seeing from you. I hope you understand, but these Saudis Arabian, Israeliesque anti Iran propagandas are music to our ears by now.

 

[Naram_Sin]

He's looking after his life , prior to US -Iranian deal on who would succeed Abdelmahdi he was getting threatened by the PMU. They accepted him after Iran struck deal with US and gave them go ahead.

PMU are hated by Iraqis and killed hundreds of protestors and murdered many Iraqi activists just several months ago.

Quit with the disinformation flood, the PMU was formed from a fatwa by the Grand ayatollah in Iraq, it is certainly a polarizing entity, Sunnis hate it, most Shia support it, Kurds cant criticize it since they have their own seperate army.

its legaly part of the defence forces, though some of its units do declare allegiance to Khamenei, regardless they played a significant role against Isis, curbing kurdish encroachment and keeping US influence in check.

The protests are a can of worms I,d rather not open.

 

[Falcon29]

You mean to tell me an organisation is not accepted by everyone in that society? What an utter surprise. Anyway, I consider the word and body language of their Prime Minister to be of more importance than the sort of confirmation bias and borderline conspiracy theories I am seeing from you. I hope you understand, but these Saudis Arabian, Israeliesque anti Iran propagandas are music to our ears by now.

You don't get it do you, majority of Iraqi's reject these terrorist organizations and were burning down their offices just months ago. These terrorist militias that answer to Iran killed Iraqi demonstrators with no impunity. They also threatened with violence Iraqi gov't officials and security forces. They are ruling by force and intimidation, just as ISIS did in Mosul. It does not mean they are accepted by the population. Iraqi PM script is very obviously intended to appease them and he looks nervous speaking to them while they give him death stares.

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Baghdad (AFP) - A third anti-government activist has been murdered in Iraq in less than 10 days, police and medics said Wednesday, as the United Nations accused militias of killing and abducting demonstrators.

Protesters have complained of an intensifying campaign of intimidation in a country where pro-Iranian armed groups integrated into the security forces wield growing influence.

The body of 49-year-old father of five Ali al-Lami was found overnight with gunshot wounds to the head, according to his friends, who said he had arrived in Baghdad just days earlier to join the protests.

"It was the militias of a corrupt government that killed him," said a close friend, Tayssir al-Atabi.

A police source said the attackers had used guns with silencers, while forensic experts said Lami had been struck by three bullets.
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https://news.yahoo.com/another-iraqi-activist-killed-un-accuses-militias-165858260.html

Quit with the disinformation flood, the PMU was formed from a fatwa by the Grand ayatollah in Iraq, it is certainly a polarizing entity, Sunnis hate it, most Shia support it, Kurds cant criticize it since they have their own seperate army.

its legaly part of the defence forces, though some of its units do declare allegiance to Khamenei, regardless they played a significant role against Isis, curbing kurdish encroachment and keeping US influence in check.

The protests are a can of worms I,d rather not open.

Sunni's play no role in Iraqi politics anymore, and all the protesters were Shia. Who are you for us to take your word? How do we know you're not an Iranian false flagger? The protests showed us what Iraqi Shia think of these pro-Iran terrorist militias.

 

[Philosopher]

You don't get it do you, majority of Iraqi's reject these terrorist organizations and were burning down their offices just months ago. These terrorist militias that answer to Iran killed Iraqi demonstrators with no impunity. They also threatened with violence Iraqi gov't officials and security forces. They are ruling by force and intimidation, just as ISIS did in Mosul. It does not mean they are accepted by the population. Iraqi PM script is very obviously intended to appease them and he looks nervous speaking to them while they give him death stares.

Well of course you represent the view of the Iraqis more than the Iraqi government. As for your disinformation attempts, you're wasting your time. Your kind and your overt anti-Iranian propagandas can be spotted from every ounce of your tone.