Iranian Baha'i refuge to Pakistan, A Love Story

[PakistaniandProud]

No, I mean Iranian beggars in Pakisatn, not the otehrw way around Shamk

 

[xyxmt]

I knew quite a few Bahai's in Karachi, 4 of them all related to each other worked in my company, they speak like us eat like us seems like they were all born there

 

[Edevelop]

Raykalm who's that in ur avatar, i need to know for research purposes?

 

[Ahmad]

Perhaps the Mullahs dont have much information about the Bahais, otherwise they wouldnt be any better than the Ahmadis.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Perhaps the Mullahs dont have much information about the Bahais, otherwise they wouldnt be any better than the Ahmadis.

Probably everyone knows me on PDF as huge basher of Mullahs.

However you must understand that Mullah-Qadiani fight is a local and ugly politics within Pakistani context. and this politics goes back all the way to the pre-1947 period when Qadiani religion was founded.

Ordinary people like you and I are different. But believe you me, some of the Qadiani Mullahs I have met are equally nut cases as our Sunni Mullahs. Perhaps it is some kind of bad stuff in our water that makes every Mullah including Qadiani, Shia, and Sunni as rabid freak-show.

Bahais have been living in Pakistan and so have Parsis. These two groups have good family values, they are hardworking, but most importantly their Mullahs do not setup freak-shows (at least not in public), and that's why no one bothers them.

Parsi fire-temples have been in Pakistan for a long long time. The caretakers of these temples wear white shirt and pajama, and they are very quiet, they shop in the local markets and mind their own business. No politics ever.

On the day of their worship they come in nice cars, and quietly enter their temples and then leave. No halla gulla, no sloganeering, no naara bazi. Local Mullahs know where these temples are. But they don't bother them.

Bahais are even quieter community. They will come to your house if you invite them. They will participate in local ceremonies like wedding. They are open to the idea of their kids marrying the middle class Pakistanis.

The main thing is that Bahais and Parsis do not proselytize and try to convert local Pakistanis into their faith.

So Mullahs do not worry about losing their "business" to Bahais or Parsis.

On the other hand, Qadianis and Christians and Shias do try to convert locals, and that sets up an ugly and ****** war between Mullahs of two sides.

Still I feel Pakistani Mullahs are hypocrites. When they go to the West, they convert other faiths. Then why to have so much issue when the same thing happens (to a very small number of Pakistanis) in Pakistan.

Hope this clarifies a bit.


peace

 

[vsdoc]

Probably everyone knows me on PDF as huge basher of Mullahs.

However you must understand that Mullah-Qadiani fight is a local and ugly politics within Pakistani context. and this politics goes back all the way to the pre-1947 period when Qadiani religion was founded.

Ordinary people like you and I are different. But believe you me, some of the Qadiani Mullahs I have met are equally nut cases as our Sunni Mullahs. Perhaps it is some kind of bad stuff in our water that makes every Mullah including Qadiani, Shia, and Sunni as rabid freak-show.

Bahais have been living in Pakistan and so have Parsis. These two groups have good family values, they are hardworking, but most importantly their Mullahs do not setup freak-shows (at least not in public), and that's why no one bothers them.

Parsi fire-temples have been in Pakistan for a long long time. The caretakers of these temples wear white shirt and pajama, and they are very quiet, they shop in the local markets and mind their own business. No politics ever.

On the day of their worship they come in nice cars, and quietly enter their temples and then leave. No halla gulla, no sloganeering, no naara bazi. Local Mullahs know where these temples are. But they don't bother them.

Bahais are even quieter community. They will come to your house if you invite them. They will participate in local ceremonies like wedding. They are open to the idea of their kids marrying the middle class Pakistanis.

The main thing is that Bahais and Parsis do not proselytize and try to convert local Pakistanis into their faith.

So Mullahs do not worry about losing their "business" to Bahais or Parsis.

On the other hand, Qadianis and Christians and Shias do try to convert locals, and that sets up an ugly and ****** war between Mullahs of two sides.

Still I feel Pakistani Mullahs are hypocrites. When they go to the West, they convert other faiths. Then why to have so much issue when the same thing happens (to a very small number of Pakistanis) in Pakistan.

Hope this clarifies a bit.


peace

Agree with what you have said totally.

Everyone here equally know my view on mullas, intolerance, and religious proselytizing and active evangelism and conversions.

I believe in the interest of world peace it needs to stop.

Period.

No two ways about it.

The days of the Prophets are long gone.

Each great religion and faith has had enough time on the planet for humanity to be aware about them and what they bring to the table.

Where their places of worship and congregations of the faithful are.

And where their Holy Books and teachings can be accessed.

Should they be interested.

Do that and this tussle for the reaping of souls Ghostrider style will become controllable and merge into the background.

And then no faith feel inseure about losing out in this silly numbers game.

Because thats what it is.

A very dangerous game.

That is bringing the world to the brink.

Parsis (and I) believe that God decides which faith you are born into.

It is not up to us or someone else to don that mantle and change midway.

Because then it becomes club politics, and transfer season ala major league football.

And not a one on one between God and you.

Cheers and Peace unto all.

 

[vsdoc]

ADDDENDUM:

On the issue of inter-faith marriages, most religions have it wrong when the faith passes down to the child from the father.

Including in our case where the Parsis are concerned.

If anything, language, culture, and faith passes down from mother to child. And it begins before the child is born.

Show me any mixed faith child, and I guarantee you that regardless of formal statistical faith, he is closer and more attuned to the original faith of his or her mother.