Iran & Pakistan Booth are Brother All The Muslims are 1,One.

[observer 2105]

Yeah Kuwait, suuuuure.

Nothing you said make any sense, stop blabbering.

Also the people you mentioned were only known because they were Arabized. They were born in the Arab empire, that is controlled and conceived by Arabs, they flourished in an Arabian society, they were educated by Arab teachers, in Arab institutions, they thought, wrote, and published in Arabic.

Islam and its culture was created by Arabs, revealed on an Arab prophet, and passed on to Arab dynasties, that controlled Arabian empires (Prophet state, Caliphate state, Umayyads, Abbasids) the principles are based on Arab culture, the language and dress were all Arab. Saudi Arabia is but an heir to that long line of strong Arab states.

iran exist now in a mutated state, they are suffering from schizophrenia. They hate Arabs, yet they sanctify Arab figures like Ali and Hussein. Even your monarch (ayatollat) is trying to rub off of Arab heritage by claiming he's a descendant of an Arabian tribe.

Be consistent with your culture please.



See Iran-Contra, and tell me who really made relations with Israel. And not your propaganda blabbering that is not backed up by concrete evidence.

yes sure !! from kuwait and highly educated طال عمرك انا كويتى و اعرف ما اقوله
anyway ! all what you said is just factitious - NOT REAL !
allah say : وكنتم على شفا حفرة من النار فانقذكم منها
meaning toward arabic tribes : And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it!

while ابن خلدون Ibn khaldoon says : ان جل علماء الاسلام هم من الفرس الاعاجم
the majority of scholars in islam were persians !!

i don't want to say the even the one who put rules for Arabic Grammer was Persian : seebaweh سيبويه was persian !

anyway when forging history is observed even in naming seas and gulfs الخليج الفارسي مثلا ,
i would not be surprised in other things too !

اتركوها فانها منتنة leave it . its dirty thing !
for iran contra !! mmm i think its classical question for some people to repeat a conclusion without understanding

most spare part of equipments in iran army is from USA ! while iran need spare parts , there was sanctions against iran while army market was opened for Saddam Husssain regime
the Suppoters of Iran took a american hostages in Lebanon ! Oliver north was send by Regan administration to open a deal with iran as IRAQ - IRAN war balance is shifted toward iran favour , to save gaurd usa intrest esp. in arabis gulg states

iran helped releasing hostages for exchange of spare parts and some armour
american send some item via israel !

iran declared that they closed a deal with USA !

UNDERSTAND ! this is not iranian scandal its american . iran was in a war !!
و السياسة كما يقال هى فن الممكن
now trying to reverse facts is something stupid ~ israel is encouraging Arabs with USA to set up a project to be united vs IRAN !!!


NOW , saudi arabia is dealing with USA , israel as servant ! crying days and night to protect them against IRAN

Saudi arabis says that they cant allow iran to get nuclear weapons ! while for 50 year allowed Israel to collect nuclear nukes

ITS REALLY A SHAME !!!

تحياتى من الكويت

 

[azzo]

و السياسة كما يقال هى فن الممكن

Okay good, apply this to everything Saudi does. حلال عليهم حرام علينا

The total area of Arab land that Iran controls and destroyed is way more than Israel's

The casualties that Iran caused is way more than Israel.

So it would be retarded if Arabs saw Israel as a more dangerous enemy than Iran.

Also we care about statistics not what ibn khaldoon says. Again, sibawih's teacher was an Arab, Alfarahidi.
The persians you are talking about were all Arabized, they were ethnically persians, but that is the case for most of the Arab world now, north africans are Amazigh and Egyptians are Copts, Iraqis are Sumerians..etc. The culture that the ethnic Arabs, persians, Copts, and Amazighs is the Arabian culture. They didn't publish in Egyptian or followed the principles and traditions of Zaradasht or brought up on the stories of Gilgamesh or Ra.
They published in Arabic, they lived in an Arab society and were educated by Arabs, they revered Arab heroes like Ali and Khalid ibn Alwalid.

This narrative that somehow the achievements of Arabs with persian heritage are a result of their persian heritage is laughable and actually misinformed.

It's just like saying that Steve jobs' achievements should be credited to Syria or his Syrian heritage, even though he was born in the U.S., educated in the U.S. in English, lived an American lifestyle, and looked up to western figures.
The truth is that the credit goes to the environment, culture, and society that produced Jobs and many others like him, and not his genetic markup. Which is where you should advice yourself by "اتركوها فانها منتنة"

 

[observer 2105]

Okay good, apply this to everything Saudi does. حلال عليهم حرام علينا

The total area of Arab land that Iran controls and destroyed is way more than Israel's

The casualties that Iran caused is way more than Israel.

So it would be retarded if Arabs saw Israel as a more dangerous enemy than Iran.

Also we care about statistics not what ibn khaldoon says. Again, sibawih's teacher was an Arab, Alfarahidi.
The persians you are talking about were all Arabized, they were ethnically persians, but that is the case for most of the Arab world now, north africans are Amazigh and Egyptians are Copts, Iraqis are Sumerians..etc. The culture that the ethnic Arabs, persians, Copts, and Amazighs is the Arabian culture. They didn't publish in Egyptian or followed the principles and traditions of Zaradasht or brought up on the stories of Gilgamesh or Ra.
They published in Arabic, they lived in an Arab society and were educated by Arabs, they revered Arab heroes like Ali and Khalid ibn Alwalid.

This narrative that somehow the achievements of Arabs with persian heritage are a result of their persian heritage is laughable and actually misinformed.

It's just like saying that Steve jobs' achievements should be credited to Syria or his Syrian heritage, even though he was born in the U.S., educated in the U.S. in English, lived an American lifestyle, and looked up to western figures.
The truth is that the credit goes to the environment, culture, and society that produced Jobs and many others like him, and not his genetic markup. Which is where you should advice yourself by "اتركوها فانها منتنة"

mmm

so when you write now in english ,, does it mean you are englishized as when persian write in arabic become arabized !

it, s simply because Qoran is in Arabic , so if want to learn Fiqh and religion you should learn Arabic - Its language of islamc worldswide communication !! not ethnicity !!

as iam Arabian ,, i more" honest" to say most our culture were brought from persia , these areobjective facts .. but does "not" mean that Persian are superior to Arabs ( even Ibn Khaldoon ابن خلدون stated that clearly )

! even arabian night book الف ليلة و ليلة
is not arabic in any >> شاهبندر و شهرزاد و شاه بندر و سندباد شهريار are persian names with meanining in farsi
Shahrazad mean beautiful of city , for instance !!
book of كليلة و دمنة wrote by persian nicke name was ابن المقفع
Jalal aldeen alroomi , Al tabrizi , Ibn sina wrote in Farsi too ( first two wrote mostly in farsi ) MUSIC is brought by persians ( aod - nay - qanon , even melodi - rythme like saba and Nahwand etc ) ZIRYAB زرياب mean in farsi gold water is Persian musician !
and many examples ,, e.g Arabs sheikh wear besht بشت >> its Persian name !! words like ibriq , istebriq , Wazeer
EVEN WORD LIKE BAGDAD - باغ تعنى حديقة, داد تعنى صاحب اى صاحب الحديقة IS persian word ! its clear !
in Kuwait we use so many Farsi words ليوان , ارناق , نوخذة ,اسطرلاب و دروازة ,etc ( you can check !)


ANYWAY "
i know your type , I had many sessions of dialogue with people like you
closed minded!! , want to change history according your wishful thinking !

back to SAUDI Arabia policies .. can,t say more its shameful!! , for first time i do see such historical انبطاح flatness and humiliation like that by trump administration to country like Saudi !! it brings pain to us !

even no little dignity !!

trying to give impression that ARABIC RACE is superior to other RACE is first : a lie and second: against religion !!

فشلتنا !!
REGARDS

 

[azzo]

mmm

so when you write now in english ,, does it mean you are englishized as when persian write in arabic become arabized !

it, s simply because Qoran is in Arabic , so if want to learn Fiqh and religion you should learn Arabic - Its language of islamc worldswide communication !! not ethnicity !!

as iam Arabian ,, i more" honest" to say most our culture were brought from persia , these areobjective facts .. but does "not" mean that Persian are superior to Arabs ( even Ibn Khaldoon ابن خلدون stated that clearly )

! even arabian night book الف ليلة و ليلة
is not arabic in any >> شاهبندر و شهرزاد و شاه بندر و سندباد شهريار are persian names with meanining in farsi
Shahrazad mean beautiful of city , for instance !!
book of كليلة و دمنة wrote by persian nicke name was ابن المقفع
Jalal aldeen alroomi , Al tabrizi , Ibn sina wrote in Farsi too ( first two wrote mostly in farsi ) MUSIC is brought by persians ( aod - nay - qanon , even melodi - rythme like saba and Nahwand etc ) ZIRYAB زرياب mean in farsi gold water is Persian musician !
and many examples ,, e.g Arabs sheikh wear besht بشت >> its Persian name !! words like ibriq , istebriq , Wazeer
EVEN WORD LIKE BAGDAD - باغ تعنى حديقة, داد تعنى صاحب اى صاحب الحديقة IS persian word ! its clear !
in Kuwait we use so many Farsi words ليوان , ارناق , نوخذة ,اسطرلاب و دروازة ,etc ( you can check !)


ANYWAY "
i know your type , I had many sessions of dialogue with people like you
closed minded!! , want to change history according your wishful thinking !

back to SAUDI Arabia policies .. can,t say more its shameful!! , for first time i do see such historical انبطاح flatness and humiliation like that by trump administration to country like Saudi !! it brings pain to us !

even no little dignity !!

trying to give impression that ARABIC RACE is superior to other RACE is first : a lie and second: against religion !!

فشلتنا !!
REGARDS

Reading your post and trying to understand your point of view is like torture, please spend some time learning how to type a little better, and stop writing in Arabic as not everyone here understands it, you're embarassing yourself.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Iran & Pakistan Booth are Brother All The Muslims are 1,One.

All the Muslims of World are one, I think we must not show any differences of this forum What ever was done in Iran it was attack of Terrorist,

And we are against of terrorist.
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But What was done in Pulwama it was a Drama done by Modi Sarkar to win upcoming election.

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Iran must understand that Hindu mind set will make them isolate from the world.
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Do not join hand with India, Join Hand with Pakistan. Our history tells us that with the help of Iran King Babar & Humayun established Mughal Empire in India.
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KSA, Iran,Libya, Egypt,Turkey all are the Crown of are Head.
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We Muslims must solve our issue in our OIC. And we must make OIC stronger.

NOT TRUE........Certain Muslims like the afghans, indian so called "Muslims" and bengalis are just as big if not more enemies of the Pakistani people then even the sikhs and indians are.

China and Turkey ARE the brothers and sisters of the Pakistani people and nation. THEIR ACTIONS have proved it. Not the meaningless rhetoric or sloganeering which proves nothing.

 

[observer 2105]

Reading your post and trying to understand your point of view is like torture, please spend some time learning how to type a little better, and stop writing in Arabic as not everyone here understands it, you're embarassing yourself.

embarrassing ! this is how you should write it !

try to teach yourself first !
I write in Arabic sometimes for Arabic names of Scholars and scientist you learned in your schools ! since your replies are far away from reality and honesty !