Iran Exports to Pakistan reach $860 million for current year

[waz]

But again ای ایران and his anti Pakistan butthurt.. has no limit.

Have you seen the posts here?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...mbush-in-pakistan.592083/page-2#post-11031589

I've put something up have a read bro.

 

[xyxmt]

LOL. This is peanuts.

Basically in the 1960s the Shah of Iran was a bit deluded and proposed the idea to try and integrate the Pakistani army and foreign policies under the leadership of Iran, which would make the Shah the head of state of Pakistan, but that the latter country would still retain it's own government and control of it's domestic policy.

What this would have amounted to would have been vassal state status for Pakistan under the leadership of Iran, with the Shah as head of state of both countries.

But when India defeated Pakistan in their 1960s war the Shah of Iran discarded the idea and started to distance himself from Pakistan and look down on them. This is when the Shah started to make overtures for warmer relations with India despite that fact that the Shah didnt like India's closeness to the Soviet Union. The Shah never liked or saw any value in Pakistan after India defeated them again in the 1970s war.

When India defeated Pakistan in war in the 1970s the Shah started to ridicule Pakistan and have serious concerns about that country.

Overall, a 'merger' of the two countries was never on the table and Iranians would never have accepted a 'merger' anyway. The idea was only ever a vague vanity ambition of the Shah to became head of state of a foreign country in the same way that ancient King's of Iran used to invade foreigners and force them to became tributaries of Persia.

The Shah was deluded and thought he was of the same mould of Cyrus the Great. That's why he proposed to become head of state of Pakistan unlike the old days when Iran would just invade South Asia whenever it felt like it.

here comes another history genius
everyone please read this, you will laugh your *** off

 

[925boy]

That is some good trade figure with Afghanistan. Nice job.

Pakistan and Iran are two natural allies; we share a unique ideology. I don't know what is holding us back, but the potential of our relations is immense.

Strategically, politically and economically Pakistan is dependent on China, US(lesser extent) and GCC so contextually, Pakistan cannot be independent in its dealing with Iran. Iran is the opposite of that- Strategically, politically and economically independent and revisionist. So thats a big difference, despite Islam.
REligiously, Pakistan does not seem as sophisticated/intellectual as Iran IMO. Thats another difference.

A single supernation spanning from Iran to Bangladesh including India is the way forward. The Arab nations should ideally also join but I don't see that happening soon.
But a Muslim superpower spanning Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh can be a formidable counter to US and Israeli designs.

Your idea is a Dead On Arrival due to being unrealistic.

 

[RoadRunner401]

LOL. This is peanuts.

Because of smuggling and under invoicing this number is no way near the real trade.

 

[drmeson]

Natural Allies with mild ethnic and very strong historical connections. Regardless of what few online trolls say Iranic nation of Iran and Semi-iranic nation of Pakistan will become more stronger Allies in future.

Iran should target 5 billion USD imports towards Pakistan.

Have you seen the posts here?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...mbush-in-pakistan.592083/page-2#post-11031589

I've put something up have a read bro.

Man you closed the other thread just before I posted a long reply to that Indian man. I am mad at you.

 

[waz]

Man you closed the other thread just before I posted a long reply to that Indian man. I am mad at you.

Someone already did. Do you want the section destroyed by troll wars?

 

[drmeson]

Someone already did. Do you want the section destroyed by troll wars?

Well I spent like 30 mins on writing a long essay on DNA and everything to prove how the indian man is indian and not iranian, what he claims or tries to come across as. Anyways. I will stay mad at you for 1 whole day. You earned my anger.

 

[waz]

Well I spent like 30 mins on writing a long essay on DNA and everything to prove how the indian man is indian and not iranian, what he claims or tries to come across as. Anyways. I will stay mad at you for 1 whole day. You earned my anger.

Lol ok, keep the essay for another time. I'm sure you will clash with him again.

 

[Nilgiri]

Man you closed the other thread just before I posted a long reply to that Indian man. I am mad at you.

Hope you had a good read of my replies there. That doc character is a real POS....hopefully permabanned soon again.

@Bahram Esfandiari you are spot on about reply you made too.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Now I believe that a number of these hendi have started posting on Iran masquerading around as Iranians. How strange!

here comes another history genius
everyone please read this, you will laugh your *** off

 

[ای ایران]

here comes another history genius
everyone please read this, you will laugh your *** off

Thank you!

Read it and learn something:

"It is interesting to note that at one point to strengthen the unity between the two nations, the Shah had proposed the idea of a confederation of Iran and Pakistan with a single army and with him as head of the state. Vatanka argues that though the idea seems bizarre and unworkable, two distinct realities existed at that time that made such an idea less than outlandish. “First, Iran and Pakistan were already members of the budding new organisation Cento. There was already much talk about political, military and economic integration as part of the structures of Cento. Second, the Shah had not envisioned the idea out of the blue. Right next door in the Arab world, four regional countries were at the time already experimenting with political confederations. In 1958, Egypt and Syria agreed on a union, which became known as the United Arab Republic.”

The 1965 war between India and Pakistan however, shattered the Shah’s confidence in Pakistan and afterwards he started looking at Pakistan differently. According to Vatanka, the main fallout from the 1965 conflict was its psychological impact on Iran regarding Pakistan’s worth as a strategic ally; from then on India began to be regarded differently by Tehran with the Shah also gradually adopting a patronising attitude towards Pakistan.

During his reign, the Shah repeatedly came to Pakistan’s rescue, but over the years his doubts about the country kept piling up. Pakistan’s defeat in the 1971 war with India, and the loss of East Pakistan, particularly alarmed the Shah and made him acutely aware of Pakistan’s many predicaments and its colossal needs as Islamabad faced the Soviet-leaning Indians. Vatanka, quoting diplomatic cables, writes that over the next few years the Shah often had the fate of Pakistan as a key item on his foreign policy agenda. He mentions the Shah’s meeting in July 1973 with US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in Washington, DC, in which the Shah categorically said he had informed the Soviet leadership about Iran’s “commitment to Pakistan’s security”. Kissinger was informed that the Shah had told the Indians “that an attack on Pakistan would involve Iran” and that Iran “could not tolerate the (further) disintegration of Pakistan.”

The book also quotes the Shah’s last memoir before he died: “I wanted to take advantage of the presence in Persepolis of then President of Pakistan, Yahya Khan, on the occasion of the 2,500th anniversary of the Persian Empire. I hoped to arrange a meeting between him and the president of the USSR, [Nikolai] Podgorny, and thus to help avert the impending conflict between India and Pakistan over Bangladesh.” The Shah’s efforts however remained fruitless.

The Shah was not happy with Yahya Khan’s approach towards East Pakistan and warned him about the consequences. Though he tried to rescue Pakistan, the breakup of Pakistan disappointed Shah. The further dismemberment of Pakistan was a nightmare for him and he was concerned about the growing activities of the insurgents in Balochistan. As Vatanka puts it: “After 1971, the Shah hinted at the possibility of Iran annexing the Pakistani province of Balochistan if Pakistan was further dismantled due to internal ethnic conflict.”"

Full book review (from your own country's newspaper): https://www.dawn.com/news/1272879

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Good to know that Pakistani exports are growing and it is more diversified year after year.

This is the table of exports for Pakistan which is totaled $24.8 billions last year: Impressive..

http://www.sbp.org.pk/ecodata/Export_Receipts_by_Commodity.pdf

Impressive? we dont export as much as we import... trade deficit & low value of PKR...

 

[Tokhme khar]

Our trade with Turkey will hit $30 billion soon. With Iraq it is about $22 billion. With Syria and Afghanistan it is 10 billion combined.

Our non oil exports already are above $70 billion per year. Oil and gas exports top $100 billion.

We need to work hard to increase these figures. They are only half of what they should be.

Countries like Qatar and Pakistan need to be engaged. Qatar is starting to import a lot of things from Iran now. We are targeting a $10 billion per year figure soon. Mostly food, construction material and consumables etc.

Impressive? we dont export as much as we import... trade deficit & low value of PKR...

 

[Kambojaric]

I was surprised to cement is imported from Iran to Pakistan...I was under impreasion Pakistan has surplus cement that can be exported to India..

Huge construction projects under the CPEC umbrella have probably skyrocketed demand for cement hence the import. Or it could simply be a case of low prices driven by geography. It might be more cost effective to import cement from Iran in regions close to the border such as Gwadar, than from other parts of Pakistan. Just speculation on my part.

 

[Tokhme khar]

For last decade now Iran supplies power to gwader city.

Huge construction projects under the CPEC umbrella have probably skyrocketed demand for cement hence the import. Or it could simply be a case of low prices driven by geography. It might be more cost effective to import cement from Iran in regions close to the border such as Gwadar, than from other parts of Pakistan. Just speculation on my part.