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Interview :: Managing Director, DCNS India, Bernard Buisson

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More Than 50 Per Cent of the Mazagon Procured Materials Originally Supplied by DCNS Have Been Successfully Subcontracted by DCNS India to Indian Industries

More Than 50 Per Cent of the Mazagon Procured Materials Originally Supplied by DCNS Have Been Successfully Subcontracted by DCNS India to Indian Industries
Managing Director, DCNS India, Bernard Buisson
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DCNS India Pvt Ltd has been in operation for last few years now. How useful has it been to create an Indian entity?
DCNS is committed to long-term partnerships and close collaboration with the Indian Navy and local shipbuilding industry. It is for this reason that the group set up DCNS India Private Limited, a subsidiary specialising in naval services, in March 2009. The main raison d’etre of DCNS India is to enlarge the foot print of DCNS in India by creating a defence ecosystem to cluster a large number of Indian industries allowing DCNS to achieve its commitments in terms of indigenisation and therefore be in line with the self-reliance policy of the Indian government.

As a proof, since the beginning of the P-75 programme, DCNS has been working at the selection and qualification of Indian companies as partners for local production of equipment for the Scorpene. This is accomplished by DCNS India, through the P-75 indigenisation programme. In this framework, DCNS is providing our Indian partners with knowhow through true ToTs which includes production drawings, manufacturing and quality process, on job training (OJT), technical assistance to manufacture equipment locally. So far, we have signed partnerships with four Indian companies and we are also in discussion with others.

Setting up of DCNS India is part of our willingness to support our esteemed customers: Indian Navy, Indian Coast Guards, Indian naval shipyards and industries, to develop local services with Indian talents and to extend sourcing opportunities for both local and international needs.

The Scorpene programme has been marred by a lot of controversies and criticism because of delays and price rise. From DCNS’ perspective, what have been the lessons learnt? In your experience now with the Indian shipyards, both in the public and the private sector, what do you think are their strengths and limitations?
The reasons for the initial teething problems of the P-75 project, though normal, have been overcome and the P-75 submarines are now being constructed as per schedule.

The reasons for the initial delays are threefold: First, MDL had stopped manufacturing submarines for over a decade. Any shipyard confronted with such inactivity in this complex industrial field would lose its expertise and skilled workforce. The second reason is that no on job training at the OEM’s facilities was possible since all six submarines are being built in India. Usually, the first one or two first submarines for such large programmes are made in the OEM’s facilities to allow absorption of the building process through OJT for the customer shipyard. The third reason has been some material package procurement difficulties. Some small size European suppliers of specific material were not used to MDL’s complex and comprehensive procurement policies and were not able to respond to some RFPs.

DCNS has been abiding strictly to all the terms and conditions of the contract since the beginning. No request for any increase in contracted prices has been done.

We believe private public partnerships (PPP) could be an efficient way to synergise the comparatives advantages of the public and private shipyards by combining the skills and experience of the public sector with the more flexible procurement and management policies of the private sector.

There is an increased focus on indigenisation in the Indian defence manufacturing. How do you think you can partner in this?

DCNS is strongly committed to the indigenisation process under the P75 programme. In fact, we can proudly state that DCNS is one of the very few foreign companies to have invested and achieved high indigenisation levels and at no additional cost to the Indian Navy/ministry of defence, despite the fact that indigenisation for a small quantity (four) has an additional cost which could reach 40 per cent compared to the original price of the European OEM.

Despite having no contractual obligation to reach any specific level of local content, DCNS has strived to develop a sound base of qualified Indian companies to indigenise as much as possible the equipment forming an integral part of the submarine. Today, more than 50 per cent of the Mazagon Procured Materials (MPM) originally manufactured and/ or supplied by DCNS have been successfully subcontracted by DCNS India to Indian industries. Factory Acceptance Tests (FATs) have already been successfully conducted in the facilities of these Indian vendors in the presence of the Indian Navy and MDL and delivered to MDL for integration in P-75 submarines.

As far as the pressure hulls are concerned, MDL has now successfully absorbed the transfer of technologies allowing them to manufacture these high-tech and vital hulls as fast as we can do it in our facilities in France with the same level of quality.

DCNS is willing to extend its participation in on-going and future projects for the modernisation programme of the Indian Navy and help the Indian government to achieve its goal of maximum indigenisation in defence manufacturing. We view our relationship with India as a strategic industrial partnership and hence a permanent presence is vital.

Coming back to the Scorpene programme, what kind of life-cycle support and training will you be providing to the Indian Navy?

Today, we have proactive approaches with end-users and the procurement agencies to further enhance the performance of our in-service support. As systems are complex and budgets constrained, we move towards shared gains initiatives to deeper optimise the quality of the support system and the cost of ownership. On an industrial point of view, we jointly look at ways to facilitate access and logistics to improve productivity. We have designed and set up advance bases so that skills and tools are directly available besides the ships. We also prepare standardised spares sets based on the input from the scheduled works. On a contracting point of view, we look at risk-sharing to lower the cost of the in-service support.
 
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The reasons for the initial delays are threefold: First, MDL had stopped manufacturing submarines for over a decade. Any shipyard confronted with such inactivity in this complex industrial field would lose its expertise and skilled workforce. The second reason is that no on job training at the OEM’s facilities was possible since all six submarines are being built in India. Usually, the first one or two first submarines for such large programmes are made in the OEM’s facilities to allow absorption of the building process through OJT for the customer shipyard. The third reason has been some material package procurement difficulties. Some small size European suppliers of specific material were not used to MDL’s complex and comprehensive procurement policies and were not able to respond to some RFPs.

Interesting points, that surely explains some of the problems.
 
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