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Interesting exchange with John Fricker

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Great find Growler !!!

Thanks for this Information , One question to you , Is this Article from John Flicker's Book "Battle For Pakistan 1965" ?
 
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Please refer to post 77 dated 15.02.2010

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/45007-f-104-alas-badmash-6.html

In 1965 on september 6, pilots from PAF's 19 Sqn, struck on phatankot destroying six Mig21s.

Two F104s were lost in 1965 war, One was of FLT LT Amjad's who encountered six or seven IAF aircrafts over Sargodha, he shot down two of them. His F104 got hit due to debri from one aircraft hit his F104, he was forced to eject.......Another F104 crashed in 1965 was of F/O G O Abbasi at Peshawar Airbase which was struck by dust storm, the pilot overshot the runway and crashed but was thrwon clear from the cockpit, while his F104 dis-integrated.

Mig 21 only shot down on F104 in 1971, that was of W/C Leslie Middle over Arabian sea. The gallant Pilot was returning from a successful mission.
 
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many a times...most of the figures related to war losses are misleading.... BTW its a informative article from growler....at his best.
 
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Guys it will be good if someone can fish the original article. Did I miss it?
 
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now stop heat of war which finished before 40 years. peace peace peace.
 
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Can someone please post a profile of John Fricker?

Cant seem to find any information on the fellow...

Thanks in advance...
 
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Can someone please post a profile of John Fricker?

Cant seem to find any information on the fellow...

Thanks in advance...

Not exactly a profile, but...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-war-explained-john-fricker-2.html#post720327

Ok if you follow that link you will no longer find that post. It has now been deleted, without leaving any trace of it ever having existed, and of course citing no reason.

Anyway.

John Fricker is a trusted friend of PAF. His book 'Battle for Pakistan' is considered as unofficial official PAF's history of air war in 1965. The book contains numerous factual errors and contradictions. One of which was Alam's 5 kills in 30 seconds. Read the debunking here.
 
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Can someone please post a profile of John Fricker?

Cant seem to find any information on the fellow...

Thanks in advance...

"John Fricker
An expert on military aviation, John Fricker has more than 40 years experience in aerospace and journailsm beginning with service in the Royal Air Force. He is a racing pilot of some renown, and was the first Western writer to fly a MiG-15."
 
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Not exactly a profile, but...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-war-explained-john-fricker-2.html#post720327

Ok if you follow that link you will no longer find that post. It has now been deleted, without leaving any trace of it ever having existed, and of course citing no reason.

Anyway.

John Fricker is a trusted friend of PAF. His book 'Battle for Pakistan' is considered as unofficial official PAF's history of air war in 1965. The book contains numerous factual errors and contradictions. One of which was Alam's 5 kills in 30 seconds. Read the debunking here.

I know I know you suffer from mental disorder "pathological lair" so its quite hard for you to accept reality. ALAM not only shot down 5 hunters but infact 9 IAF aircraft in total.
You have not shown a single evidence backed with proof that Fricker is lying.
 
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