Intelligence Bureau: Chinese interest in NE insurgents needs probe

[DarK-LorD]

Chinese interest in NE insurgents needs probe:IB

NEW DELHI: Intelligence Bureau director Nehchal Sandhu on Thursday said reports of growing interest of China in insurgent groups in the northeast needs to be probed at the earliest.

Addressing top police brass of the country at a conference here, Sandhu said there was a need to review the "fresh evidence of intrusive Chinese interest in the affairs of Indian insurgent groups".

He said, "We will also review the impact in the region of continuing presence of northeast insurgents groups in Myanmar and to some extent in Bangladesh."

Referring to the two recent terror incidents, Sandhu said the spectre of terrorism continued to haunts us and the recent blasts were a reminder of the grave threat of terror. He Sandhu said Indian police apparatus had not been quick enough to change tactics and strategies to match up to the terrorists.

He said proven investigation techniques may have to be abandoned and a new set of guidelines to probe such cases needed to be developed at the earliest.

IB chief expresses concern over Chinese interest in N-E insurgent groups - The Times of India

 

[DarK-LorD]

Not A Big Surprise.ULFA leaders are probably hiding in CPC care homes.

 

[misterme2]

Man this is so pathetic. When I was in India in 1998, I met a couple of fellow students from the Northeast in particular Nagaland and Assam. Even at that time with my interactions and discussions with these guys, they told me how CHina supplies theses miltant groups weapons and training. My friend even told me of being able to buy AK's for 5,000 rupees in Dimapur. The same Dimapur that was busted as an open black market for all kind of weapons in 2007. Ten yrs I left!!! Its just mind boggling to me, that the IB director is coming to this conclusion after how many yrs? I was a young student barely 19 yrs old and If I could dig that much info with no language skills than the sorry state of intel in India is sad and frightening. How we select the most incompetent ppl to run certain important offices. I am not blaming this guy in particular because he is in this position due to the previous idiotic corrupt directors. Kao was the last greatest warrior we had after Sam Manewshaw. Yeah, i know different ppl fofrom different positions but that's the kind of ppl we need. Political appointments have facked India up. let's learn and correct our problems...

 

[Splurgenxs]

Man this is so pathetic. When I was in India in 1998, I met a couple of fellow students from the Northeast in particular Nagaland and Assam. Even at that time with my interactions and discussions with these guys, they told me how CHina supplies theses miltant groups weapons and training. My friend even told me of being able to buy AK's for 5,000 rupees in Dimapur. The same Dimapur that was busted as an open black market for all kind of weapons in 2007. Ten yrs I left!!! Its just mind boggling to me, that the IB director is coming to this conclusion after how many yrs? I was a young student barely 19 yrs old and If I could dig that much info with no language skills than the sorry state of intel in India is sad and frightening. How we select the most incompetent ppl to run certain important offices. I am not blaming this guy in particular because he is in this position due to the previous idiotic corrupt directors. Kao was the last greatest warrior we had after Sam Manewshaw. Yeah, i know different ppl fofrom different positions but that's the kind of ppl we need. Political appointments have facked India up. let's learn and correct our problems...

and u come to the conclusion that the time u herd this news was the actual exact time IB got the INFo?Seriously?
Intelligence services aren't toddler run organizations..

What u read here is all seeded at the time when it is seen fit to be released.Many Diplomatic and procedural factors come into play.

LOL ...the picture u paint .....one wonders how even India manges to survive between China and pakistan.

A HotShot comes in busts up a mega BM racket and the Intelligence were clue less ....lol ... be a little less oblivious.

 

[Splurgenxs]

Posting from TOI needs to be stopped ...it a biggest alarmist news provider in India ....half of what they post is sensationalist BS and the rest is crap.

anyways on topic.. this news channel is notorious for showing half truths and selective rudimentary conversational dialogue for hyping up the spice on news...
what is being said here is a response to a question about Chinese presence; by ToI
and the answer is as subtle as can be provided by Nehchal Sandhu.

 

[misterme2]

and u come to the conclusion that the time u herd this news was the actual exact time IB got the INFo?Seriously?
Intelligence services aren't toddler run organizations..

What u read here is all seeded at the time when it is seen fit to be released.Many Diplomatic and procedural factors come into play.

LOL ...the picture u paint .....one wonders how even India manges to survive between China and pakistan.

A HotShot comes in busts up a mega BM racket and the Intelligence were clue less ....lol ... be a little less oblivious.

Listen kid, I m sure this has been going on for a long time. No doubts about that. I wasn;t the first and I know certainly not the last. Also, I didn;t bust anything up. Its just sad state of affairs. If the IB knew so early why did they continue to let it run for so long? Sure, you can intel and data but India has shown its not good at keeping tabs. I understand seeding the media and releasing info regarding many factors but pray tell me why no action to close camps and weapons markets? Do you really think its India's best interest to allow such arms to accumulate in storage? Do you thikn its good fro training camps to go along without ebing punished. Have you ever seen how well armed and prepared NCSN militatns are compared to INdian soldiers? Instead of being a hot under the collar Indian parrot, listen to the facts and understand what problems India face. Plz don;t be so brash and rude. India closed that open black market for weapons in 2007, so if they knew about it 1999 or whatever date you dream off and only decided to close it down 10 yrs later? Yeah Right! Look Look at the sorry state of our coastal security, Maoists, etc. None of those problems magically appeared yesterday. In fact, they have been around since India got independence. Remember, Veerapan and how old it took to catch him. Sure, folks will argue it was the politicans who were shielding him. Well, its still a problem. Stop acting like B. Raman and some other Indians I encounter even some from own family, who will vehemantely defend India's pride and honor. I am quite realistic and open minded to accept we all have our weak and strong points. Acknowledge our weaknesses and then work hard to correct and solve these problems. Only then can we have a safe and secure India.

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Posting from TOI needs to be stopped ...it a biggest alarmist news provider in India ....half of what they post is sensationalist BS and the rest is crap.

anyways on topic.. this news channel is notorious for showing half truths and selective rudimentary conversational dialogue for hyping up the spice on news...
what is being said here is a response to a question about Chinese presence; by ToI
and the answer is as subtle as can be provided by Nehchal Sandhu.

The problem is not TOI its the bloody gov't. China didn;t appear today or yesterday. They have been there for quite sometime and have been assisting all our anti Indian militants.

 

[peaceful]

1. indian media is not considered as reliable source on such matters, please provide reports and analysis from 3rd party sources, otherwise we don't have a case to start with.

2. "insurgents" is not the correct term to use, they are called freedom fighters fighting for their choice of life.

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Man this is so pathetic. When I was in India in 1998, I met a couple of fellow students from the Northeast in particular Nagaland and Assam. Even at that time with my interactions and discussions with these guys, they told me how CHina supplies theses miltant groups weapons and training. My friend even told me of being able to buy AK's for 5,000 rupees in Dimapur. The same Dimapur that was busted as an open black market for all kind of weapons in 2007. Ten yrs I left!!! Its just mind boggling to me, that the IB director is coming to this conclusion after how many yrs? I was a young student barely 19 yrs old and If I could dig that much info with no language skills than the sorry state of intel in India is sad and frightening. How we select the most incompetent ppl to run certain important offices. I am not blaming this guy in particular because he is in this position due to the previous idiotic corrupt directors. Kao was the last greatest warrior we had after Sam Manewshaw. Yeah, i know different ppl fofrom different positions but that's the kind of ppl we need. Political appointments have facked India up. let's learn and correct our problems...

are you suggesting that Chinese simply refuse to supply them better weapons? AK-47? come on, we have much better stuff to offer if we believe they deserve our help.

how about some APCs, some rockets even short range missiles, Type-96 may not be available, but how about some anti tank missiles?

 

[misterme2]

1. indian media is not considered as reliable source on such matters, please provide reports and analysis from 3rd party sources, otherwise we don't have a case to start with.

2. "insurgents" is not the correct term to use, they are called freedom fighters fighting for their choice of life.

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are you suggesting that Chinese simply refuse to supply them better weapons? AK-47? come on, we have much better stuff to offer if we believe they deserve our help.

how about some APCs, some rockets even short range missiles, Type-96 may not be available, but how about some anti tank missiles?

No I merely suggested something that I fancied which I was told was available for the price I listed. I am sure there are countless small arms and explosives available but not missiles and tanks. Such weapons would prove beyong a resonable doubt China's involvement

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1. indian media is not considered as reliable source on such matters, please provide reports and analysis from 3rd party sources, otherwise we don't have a case to start with.

2. "insurgents" is not the correct term to use, they are called freedom fighters fighting for their choice of life.

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are you suggesting that Chinese simply refuse to supply them better weapons? AK-47? come on, we have much better stuff to offer if we believe they deserve our help.

how about some APCs, some rockets even short range missiles, Type-96 may not be available, but how about some anti tank missiles?

Funny your Insurgents in Tibet can be considered the same right? Also, the same with the Muslims in China right?

 

[DarK-LorD]

1. indian media is not considered as reliable source on such matters, please provide reports and analysis from 3rd party sources, otherwise we don't have a case to start with.
how about some APCs, some rockets even short range missiles, Type-96 may not be available, but how about some anti tank missiles?

Sorry,our press is controlled by government & is ages behind in press freedom when compared to China.

Also I think You forgot to add ICBM's,Destroyers,Nuclear Submarines.Aircraft Carrier etc.
You don't want your freedom fighters to fight with just APC's & AT missiles,Do You?

 

[peaceful]

No I merely suggested something that I fancied which I was told was available for the price I listed. I am sure there are countless small arms and explosives available but not missiles and tanks. Such weapons would prove beyong a resonable doubt China's involvement

No, you are spreading some BS you picked up from streets, it can not be backed by any reliable source, it can not be verified by anyone. How about do yourself a favor to just delete your highly unreliable BS?

Funny your Insurgents in Tibet can be considered the same right? Also, the same with the Muslims in China right?

1. Tibetans are very peaceful people, so far there is no Tibetan Insurgents or "freedom fighters". There are certain number of Tibetans looking for greater freedom, for which I 100% support.

Dalai Lama and his loser followers were funded by CIA. This completed discredited him and his followers.

2. Uigars looking for independence are terrorists recognized by the UN, US and UK. Please don't mix this with your freedom fighters at home.

Let's make it straight -- Chinese have moral and legal obligations to support those freedom fighters in india.

 

[misterme2]

No, you are spreading some BS you picked up from streets, it can not be backed by any reliable source, it can not be verified by anyone. How about do yourself a favor to just delete your highly unreliable BS?



1. Tibetans are very peaceful people, so far there is no Tibetan Insurgents or "freedom fighters". There are certain number of Tibetans looking for greater freedom, for which I 100% support.

Dalai Lama and his loser followers were funded by CIA. This completed discredited him and his followers.

2. Uigars looking for independence are terrorists recognized by the UN, US and UK. Please don't mix this with your freedom fighters at home.

Let's make it straight -- Chinese have moral and legal obligations to support those freedom fighters in india.

The day its confirmed by another source, tells me that I wasn;t good at what I did. I don;t care what you think peasant.....go back to the hole you came from

 

[peaceful]

Sorry,our press is controlled by government & is ages behind in press freedom when compared to China.

you are 100% right. just a few months ago, indian members on this forum were telling me Shanghai is just 2-3 years ahead of Mumbai. if your media is not highly censored & biased, tell me how can this happen?

Also I think You forgot to add ICBM's,Destroyers,Nuclear Submarines.Aircraft Carrier etc.
You don't want your freedom fighters to fight with just APC's & AT missiles,Do You?

funny thing is we can build all these, india can not build any of these.

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The day its confirmed by another source, tells me that I wasn;t good at what I did. I don;t care what you think peasant.....go back to the hole you came from

you need to learn anger control.

 

[aakash_2410]

1. indian media is not considered as reliable source on such matters, please provide reports and analysis from 3rd party sources, otherwise we don't have a case to start with.

2. "insurgents" is not the correct term to use, they are called freedom fighters fighting for their choice of life.

1. Yes we should have sources from state controlled Chinese media.

2. Freedom fighters? Right then what about freedom fighters? Should we arm them with weapons as well? Plus remember India can do more in Tibet than China can EVER do in NE. Because common of NE doesn't not care about all these insurgents. And doesn't feel his land is OCCUPIED.

 

[aakash_2410]

funny thing is we can build all these, india can not build any of these.

Are you serious? ICBM? India's ICBM is due fot testing next year. Destroyers? lool! INS Maysore, INS Delhi, INS Mumbai? Nuclear submarines? INS Arihant and Aircraft carriers? Already operating one. [China has ZERO.] and Building INS Vikramaditya?

So go tell this to people who can't make them.

 

[LURKER]

@ peaceful

why did u choose a sarcastic forum name