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Did the 'Innocence of Muslims' cast know what they were making? [Updated] | FP Passport


The story of the film that reportedly inspired yesterday's protests in Egypt and Libya -- though according to U.S. officials, not the attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya -- keeps getting stranger and more confusing.

As I noted in an update to my earlier post on this, The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg has interviewed Steve Klein, an anti-Islamic Christian activist who reportedly worked as a consultant on the project. Klein told Goldberg that "Sam Bacile," the alleged writer-director, is not actually Israeli or Jewish as reported earlier, and that may not even be his real name. (It's a bit odd that Klein didn't mention this in an earlier comment for the AP.)

CNN, meanwhile, is running this statement "on the behalf of the 80 cast and crew members" -- though it's not clear where it comes from:
"The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer. We are 100% not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose," the statement says. "We are shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred."
Buzzfeed's Rosie Gray also notes that the films numerous obvious overdubs may indicate that the footage used in the film was intended for something quite different:
[N]early all of the names in the movie's "trailer" are overdubbed. The video is a compilation of the most clumsily overdubbed moments from what is in reality an incoherent, haphazardly-edited set of scenes. Among the overdubbed words is "Mohammed," suggesting that the footage was taken from a film about something else entirely. The footage also suggests multiple video sources — there are obvious and jarring discrepancies among actors and locations.
The "obvious and jarring discrepancies" may just be the result of amateurish continuity problems, but the overdubbing does make it seem possible that the participants may not have known what the film they were making was actually about or that footage from another film altogether was recut.

This is pure speculation on my part but the very white actor playing Mohammed actually looks a bit more like a traditional portrayal of Jesus. Perhaps the participants believed they were making some kind of Life of Brian-style biblical farce that was recut to refer to Mohammed? Or maybe footage was taken from a completely different movie by some online prankster? The only person claiming this movie was ever shown in a theater is "Bacile," who may or may not be a real person.

Expect this to get even weirder soon.

Update: Gawker gets the scoop. Looks like the actors were deceived:
Cindy Lee Garcia, an actress from Bakersfield, Calif., has a small role in the Muhammed movie as a woman whose young daughter is given to Muhammed to marry. But in a phone interview this afternoon, Garcia told us she had no idea she was participating in an offensive spoof on the life of Muhammed when she answered a casting call through an agency last summer and got the part.

The script she was given was titled simply Desert Warriors.

"It was going to be a film based on how things were 2,000 years ago," Garcia said. "It wasn't based on anything to do with religion, it was just on how things were run in Egypt. There wasn't anything about Muhammed or Muslims or anything."


In the script and during the shooting, nothing indicated the controversial nature of the final product. Muhammed wasn't even called Muhammed; he was "Master George," Garcia said. The words Muhammed were dubbed over in post-production, as were essentially all other offensive references to Islam and Muhammed.
Update 2: The updated version of the AP story has some more on the alleged screening of the full film:
The only sparse evidence indicating that an entire version of Innocence of Muslims was filmed beyond its 13.5-minute trailer came in comments from an employee of the Vine Theater, a Hollywood Boulevard theater that was padlocked on Wednesday. The theater employee, who declined to identify himself, said that a version of Innocence of Muslims ran briefly several months ago at the theater and that a man whose first name was Sam had brought the film to the theater

This confirms that the makers of the film are lying out of their teeth when they claimed they were making a political film to educate other people. If that was true, there would have been no need to lie to the actors and secretly change the script post-production. So the only purpose of creating the film was as suspected, to incite violence. There's really nothing to add.

This comes after the revelation that most of the people identified in the production of the film have fake identities, and that the "Jewish" film-maker is most likely not even Jewish.

'Innocence of Muslims': Mystery shrouds film's California origins - latimes.com
 
There is so much disinformation floating around about this movie. To the point where no one has any clue who actually made the film and why.

All we know is that people paid for this with their lives. People who were not connected to the movie in any way.
 
There is so much disinformation floating around about this movie. To the point where no one has any clue who actually made the film and why.

All we know is that people paid for this with their lives. People who were not connected to the movie in any way.

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But it doesn't matter to people in the Middle East who made it, they will just blame the U.S as usual and kill innocent people.

Next time 1 muslim anywhere in the world says anything bad about Christianity, people in the U.S should "rocket attack" Libyan embassies and kill innocent people.
 
Next time 1 muslim anywhere in the world says anything bad about Christianity, people in the U.S should "rocket attack" Libyan embassies and kill innocent people.

That's why they dont have embassies in the south...:D
 
This confirms that the makers of the film are lying out of their teeth when they claimed they were making a political film to educate other people. If that was true, there would have been no need to lie to the actors and secretly change the script post-production.

How do we know that the actors are not lying now? That they made a racist film will full knowledge of the context and content, and are now backpeddling because the whole thing has blown up in their face?

This comes after the revelation that most of the people identified in the production of the film have fake identities, and that the "Jewish" film-maker is most likely not even Jewish.

'revelation', or spin to protect the culprits?

Next time 1 muslim anywhere in the world says anything bad about Christianity, people in the U.S should "rocket attack" Libyan embassies and kill innocent people.

This was not one person saying something bad. It was a $5 million production with over 100 Jewish donors in California. It was promoted by known Christian extremists.

Still does not justify the Muslim reaction, but the intention behind making this film is crystal clear.
 
I just saw the movie on Youtube. The full movie is only 13 minutes long.

It is made very poorly, and directed badly.

And it was specifically designed to insult the Islamic faith. In very obvious ways.

I know.. its repulsive to say the least...
 
I saw the movie, very low cost cheap quality movie and very stupid.

but I also think that zero tolerance of some muslims is wrong.
a country or religion without tolerance can not survive long.

If you are patient in one moment of anger, you will escape a hundred days of sorrow
 
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But it doesn't matter to people in the Middle East who made it, they will just blame the U.S as usual and kill innocent people.

In another thread a member from Israel posted something which said that the producer is an American so its really unfortunate that whoever is doing it again and again to ignite violence and leading to deaths of innocent people, means the ones who are making such things are also inviting violence against their own countrymen.

Next time 1 muslim anywhere in the world says anything bad about Christianity, people in the U.S should "rocket attack" Libyan embassies and kill innocent people.

1. All Christian, Jewish Prophets are also Prophets of Islam and we do not i repeat we Do NOT insult them, its always paranoid Christian, Jewish or idol worshiping militants who inslut Prophet of Islam. So no Muslim will ever insult Prophet Jesus or David as we believe in them and our Imaan (faith) is not complete unless we take oath by delcaring them our prophets

2. Do insult Muslims we dont rocket anybody on that but kindly do not insult our Prophet (PBUH) that is the lowest coming from you guys.
 
guys U might think I have gone bonkers.. But what will happen if an outsider makes a movie on a particular religion, say Hinduism.. and say if Hindus do NOT react violently now the whole purpose of the movie will be defeated. The producers have succeded in what they wanted to achieve adn show Hinduism in bad light!!
Its like Teasing a kid ... if a kid does not gets wound up easily there is not MUCH of a point of trying to wind him up coz U know you willl not get much of a reaction out of him..

Imagine if Israelites start to go gaga and burning embassys and attacking people ONLY coz some one random guy said , say... , Holocaust never happened...
I know a LOT many muslim understand this... but they should try to sort out the problem with brains , not guns. my 2 cents!
 
guys U might think I have gone bonkers.. But what will happen if an outsider makes a movie on a particular religion, say Hinduism.. and say if Hindus do NOT react violently now the whole purpose of the movie will be defeated. The producers have succeded in what they wanted to achieve adn show Hinduism in bad light!!
Its like Teasing a kid ... if a kid does not gets wound up easily there is not MUCH of a point of trying to wind him up coz U know you willl not get much of a reaction out of him..

Imagine if Israelites start to go gaga and burning embassys and attacking people ONLY coz some one random guy said , say... , Holocaust never happened...
I know a LOT many muslim understand this... but they should try to sort out the problem with brains , not guns. my 2 cents!

Agreed with non-violence point.

2. why would Jews or Christians wont resort to protests well they themselves insult their Prophets so they dont feel like offended, we dont so we feel it.

3. Its like putting onn a fire just like your sig and if a Chinese put one such Sig you will be on fire
 

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