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"As human civilization is being destroyed under the hypocrisy which guides the Western Scientific and pseudo-religious Establishment, the timely needed enlightenment of human populations on a reported Extraterrestrial presence, could very well be led by China. The government of China notwithstanding accounts of human rights abuses, appears to have constructively prepared members of that society, on the kind of potentially vital awareness context, which Western governments continue to deny its own societal members."
The Canadian National Newspaper: Ex-China Foreign Ministry Official says Extraterrestrials live among us
Ex-China Foreign Ministry Official says Extraterrestrials live among us
Nanjing is famous for one of the worst atrocities in the human history when Japanese invaders allegedly massacred 300,000 Chinese people in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province in December 1937 massacre. Nanjing is now known for its prosperity and peace.
Sun Shili shows off his drawings of extraterrestials in human guise
In the industrialized West, there evolved the prevailing Pseudo-religious dogma that human beings are at the centre of G-ds creation in the universe. This dogma is the ideological motivation behind the on-going de-legitimization of the verfiable contact that people have had with Extraterrestrials (ETs). This apparent dogma has become the modern equivalent of the corresponding dogma, that the world is flat, which Church and other elites centuries ago used to champion. In contrast, free of Western pseudo-religious based dogma, the Buddhist milieu of China, has freed their scientific community, with the support of government, and ofcommunity participation, to seek to explore UFO incidences and evidence of human contact with Extraterrestrials.
What is dogma?
Dogma is a system of obfuscations, propaganda and related ideology, which elites present as truth, with the aim to maintain social control, and toexpand their own hold on power. Other examples of current operating dogma include schemes of socialization that aim to convince people that capitalism promotes freedom and democracy, that privatization is a good thing, and that economic protectionism is a bad thing.
A notable example of dogma, in the context of the so-called War on Terrorism, is that the U.S. and its coalition partners are waging war in Iraq and Afghanistan not subtantively for oil, but to promote human rights; meanwhile well-documented human destruction, suffering and oppression worsen.
UFO research is an appreciated and duly recognized science in China
Izvestia reports that China has a record number of UFO scientific and community-based organizations. There are many who even attempt to establish some sort of a contact with extraterrestrials. Their actions are protected by the National Society of the Extraterrestrial Studies, which was founded 25 years ago. This National Society is financed by the government.
Only professional scientists and engineers are allowed members in the Society. A person also required to have Ph.D. in science and have several published works about UFOs. About a third of all members of the society are also members of the Government of China.
The study and civic appreciation of Extraterrestrials are NOT systematically marginalized as the case in the industralized West, which tries to use dogma to ridicule community and academic UFO research initiatives, and also the work of Exopolitics groups.
Hundreds of scientists and engineers in China conduct thorough studies of apparent Extraterrestrial phenomenon.
Do Extraterrestrials live among humans?
Chinese scientists also say that aliens live among humans. This includes Sun Shili, a retired foreign ministry official who is now president of the Beijing UFO Research Society who also concludes that waixingren (extraterrestrials) are living among us.
Suns first close encounter occurred in 1971, when he was sent to the remote countryside during the cultural revolution (1966-76) to perform the grueling task of rice planting. One day while toiling in the field, his attention was diverted to a bright object in the sky, which rose and fell repeatedly.
At first, Sun assumed the spectacle was some sort of Cold War intelligence monitoring device - a reasonable deduction considering the times - however years later, after reading foreign materials on UFO sightings, he knew he had experienced a close encounter.
And Sun is not the only expert in the country taking these sightings seriously. According to the highly-accredited Shen Shituan, an actual rocket scientist, president of Beijing Aerospace University and honourary director of the government-supported China UFO Research Association, every report of an alien encounter is worth investigating.
Some of these sightings are real, some are fake and with others its unclear,' said Shen Shituan, a real rocket scientist, president of Beijing Aerospace University and honorary director of the China UFO Research Association. All these phenomena are worth researching.'
Research [ethically-based] into UFOs could help spur new forms of high-speed travel, unlimited sources of non-polluting and non-fossil fuel based energy and faster-growing crops, claims Sun Shili, president of a government-approved UFO Research Association (membership 50,000).
Shen Shituan does not readily dismiss UFO/ET reports like his counterparts in Western scientific communities, including the claims of one worker that aliens entered his Beijing home while his wife and child were present, and whisked him 265 kilometres east and back in only a few hours.
The best-known alien abduction story in China is the case of Meng Zhao Guo, a young tree farmer, from Wuchang, near Harbin in Heilongjiang province.
In June 1994 Zhao Guo and two other farm workers, working at Red Flag logging camp saw something unusual on nearby Mount Pheonix.
The complex and bizarre encounter that followed involved Meng being hit by a beam of light, as well as allegedly experiencing an abduction and a sexual encounter with a female alien.
Meng Zhaoguo, a rural worker from northeast Wuchang city, explains he was 29 when he broke his marital vows for the first and only time with an extraterrestrial of unusually robust build.
She was 10 feet [3.03 metres] tall and had six fingers, but otherwise she looked completely like a human,' he says. I told my wife all about it afterwards. She wasnt too angry.'
During September 2003 Zhang Jingping, a Beijing-based UFO researcher, had psychologists and police technicians subject Zhao Guo to hypnosis and a lie detector test in Beijing. Zhang indicated the test results proved the abductee was telling the truth.
He also indicated that doctors had indicated that Zhao Guos scars could not possibly have been caused by common injuries or surgery. Meng Zhao Guo, a humble farmer with only 5 years schooling, also indicated that he had never heard of UFOs or ufologists until after his experience had been reported.
In China Bill Chalker, an Australia UFO scientist, was able to have extensive discussions with Professor Chen Gongfu, the principal researcher of the Meng Zhao Guo case. He has asked me to assist in getting his research translated and available to western audiences. We are well underway to achieving that goal.
Research on Cao Gongs contact with ETs
In December 1999 Cao Gong, a middle-aged man from Beijing, indicated to Bill Chalker, that he had been abducted by aliens and flown to Qinhuangdao in their UFO. They looked like humans but had large hands and were very pale, Cao said. He said he had also met a Chinese girl in the flying saucer. Zhang Jingpings research investigation began in April 2000. The first step was hypnosis. Zhang invited a famous psychologist from Suzhou and asked him to conduct hypnosis on Cao in helping him to remember the whole incident. Then he brought Cao to the Beijing Bureau of Public Security and gave him a lie detection test. He passed the test, says Zhang. According to Cao, who is the principal of a private school in Fangshan District, he met a Chinese girl in the flying saucer, who looked around 13 years old. The aliens cured her disease in the flying saucer, he claimed. In order to find the girl, Zhang brought Cao to the Tangshan Bureau of Public security in July 2000. The policemen made up a computer image photo-fit of the girls face according to Caos description, says Zhang.
In November 2002, Zhang led a group of students from Beihang University and set out on a trip to Qinhuangdao, in search of the mysterious girl.
There was only a narrow glimmer of hope of finding the girl with only a computer image of her, says Zhang. They arrived in Qinglong County to the north of Qinhuangdao, and began their blind search among the countys 400,000 population. Amazingly, we found a clue on the second day of our search. An old man in the county recognized the girl in our picture, says Zhang. They found the girl soon after that. She was 15 years old. Zhang brought her back to Beijing to meet Cao Gong. She was identified by Cao as the girl he had seen in the UFO. Zhang has now spent three years investigating this case.This case is fascinating and I was fortunate that while in China I was able to discuss the case in detail with Zhang Jingping and other researchers, and also talk to Cao Gong himself.
Fortunately in Beijing, Bill Chalker secured the services of Irene, an excellent translator, guide, and interpreter. Mr. Chalker and Irene have been working on a detailed translation of the case.
Over 400 members of Dalians UFO Society have college degrees
In Dalians UFO Society, 90 per cent of the 400 members have college degrees. Its exciting for us to use science to decipher UFO sightings, said Zhou Xiaoqiang, secretary-general of the Beijing UFO Society.
While few Chinese claim to have managed to get quite as intimate with an extraterrestrial as Meng, a growing number of people in China believe in unidentified flying objects, or UFOs.
In fact, Officially registered UFO associations in China have about 50,000 members, but some estimate the actual number of Chinese interested in the subject is probably in the tens of millions.
China has a bimonthly magazine circulation 400,000 - devoted to UFO research. The conservative state-run media also report UFO sightings on a regular basis, in contrast with Western government organization which, as a policy, deny verifiable human contact with Extraterrestrial. UFO buffs in China claim support from eminent scientists and liaisons with the secretive military, giving their work full scientific respectability.
If something flies over [ET spacecraft], theres a very good reason for trying to understand why theyre here, why they come to us, what is their relationship between us and them, he says.
Wong is the Chairman of Hong Kongs thriving UFO club exploring unidentified flying objects or, to the uninitiated, flying saucers.
The club meets once a month to explore otherworldly topics like E.T. Civilization and alien philosophies.
In order to understand UFO phenomena, we need to have a broad understanding of different disciplines, says Albert So, university professor and Hong Kong UFO club member, including mathematics, physics, history, philosophy, even some sort of paranormal activities and all that.
Western science and pseudo-religions share corresponding systems of dogma, which seek to deny human contact with Extraterrestrials
In order to appreciate the systematized denial of human extraterrestrial contact and influences on Human civilization, which prevails in the West, one needs to appreciate that official science and institutionalized religion in the West are two different heads of the same body politic. Yes, official science in the West talks of evolution, and Western institutionalized religion talks of Creation. However, both groups have reached an apparent consensus to disregard clear evidence of verifiable contact and influences by Extraterrestrials on Human civilization. This joint denial is based upon a shared oppressive ideology, which seeks to repress critical human knowledge of cosmic associations and interactions with Off-world Human and other ET civilizations.
The very same apparent dogma shared between the Western scientific and institutionalized pseudo-religious Establishment, converges in their community of interest associated with their joint pursuit of venality and greed. Examples of the sell-out of integrity, and associated buying into ideology and compromises to elite-induced peer pressure, is well documented in the Western scientific community, that operates in a crass materialistic societal milieu, which ignores basic principles of human rights and democracy. This very same shared dogma between Western scientific and institutionalized pseudo-religious Establishments, is also responsible for the path of oppression, genocide, wars, racisms, and environmental destruction which scientific techologicalocrats and self-professed Christian pseudo-religious missionaries and other apologists have furthered and have supported.
Jesus who supposedly inspired Western Christian religion, which is based on corroborations in the Bible, sought to support the need for wisdom, accompanied by peace and lovingkindness. However, the actual historical practice of institutionalized Christianity, in contrast, has been to maniupate the masses into accepting bigoted views that are designed to complement the materialistic-centred objectives of an organized power elite.
Saying that the Earth is round.. and revolved around the Sun used to be an indictable offence with the prospective sentence of capital punishment, in Western Christian Society which regarded such talk to be the mutterings of seditious lunatics. Official Science and institutionalized religion in the West is not substantively inspired by the free-spirited pursuit of wisdom. Rather, these Establishment milieus in the West are guided by elite ideologues who in contrast with China, and for their own dogma-driven agenda, seek to delude the public on Extraterrestrial awareness, and other areas.
Brazil, India and China are taking the lead on extraterrestrial awarness, Mihir Sen, from the India Daily reports. They want to make sure the emerging new world understands that we have to coexist with our advanced extraterrestrial neighbours. The Indian Daily reports that Extraterrestrials will be forced to more publically reveal themselves in order to try to avoid a planetary disaster which is projected to occur in 2012.
As human civilization is being destroyed under the hyprocisy which guides the Western Scientific and pseudo-religious Establishment, the timely needed enlightenment of human populations on a reported Extraterrestrial presence, could very well be led by China. The government of China notwithstanding accounts of human rights abuses, appears to have constructively prepared members of that society, on the kind of potentially vital awareness context, which Western governments continue to deny its own societal members.
Recommended Readings on a rejuvenating the international political ecomony away from capitalism, which supports the oppression of vital civic awareness in areas which include Extraterrestrials: Do Extraterrestrials Exist? ISBN:189731809X, The Quality-of-Life and Human Development, ISBN: 1897036353, 2006, 2007, Capitalism is Not Democracy, ISBN: 1894934636.
by Paul Chen
The Canadian National Newspaper: Ex-China Foreign Ministry Official says Extraterrestrials live among us
Ex-China Foreign Ministry Official says Extraterrestrials live among us
Nanjing is famous for one of the worst atrocities in the human history when Japanese invaders allegedly massacred 300,000 Chinese people in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province in December 1937 massacre. Nanjing is now known for its prosperity and peace.
Sun Shili shows off his drawings of extraterrestials in human guise
In the industrialized West, there evolved the prevailing Pseudo-religious dogma that human beings are at the centre of G-ds creation in the universe. This dogma is the ideological motivation behind the on-going de-legitimization of the verfiable contact that people have had with Extraterrestrials (ETs). This apparent dogma has become the modern equivalent of the corresponding dogma, that the world is flat, which Church and other elites centuries ago used to champion. In contrast, free of Western pseudo-religious based dogma, the Buddhist milieu of China, has freed their scientific community, with the support of government, and ofcommunity participation, to seek to explore UFO incidences and evidence of human contact with Extraterrestrials.
What is dogma?
Dogma is a system of obfuscations, propaganda and related ideology, which elites present as truth, with the aim to maintain social control, and toexpand their own hold on power. Other examples of current operating dogma include schemes of socialization that aim to convince people that capitalism promotes freedom and democracy, that privatization is a good thing, and that economic protectionism is a bad thing.
A notable example of dogma, in the context of the so-called War on Terrorism, is that the U.S. and its coalition partners are waging war in Iraq and Afghanistan not subtantively for oil, but to promote human rights; meanwhile well-documented human destruction, suffering and oppression worsen.
UFO research is an appreciated and duly recognized science in China
Izvestia reports that China has a record number of UFO scientific and community-based organizations. There are many who even attempt to establish some sort of a contact with extraterrestrials. Their actions are protected by the National Society of the Extraterrestrial Studies, which was founded 25 years ago. This National Society is financed by the government.
Only professional scientists and engineers are allowed members in the Society. A person also required to have Ph.D. in science and have several published works about UFOs. About a third of all members of the society are also members of the Government of China.
The study and civic appreciation of Extraterrestrials are NOT systematically marginalized as the case in the industralized West, which tries to use dogma to ridicule community and academic UFO research initiatives, and also the work of Exopolitics groups.
Hundreds of scientists and engineers in China conduct thorough studies of apparent Extraterrestrial phenomenon.
Do Extraterrestrials live among humans?
Chinese scientists also say that aliens live among humans. This includes Sun Shili, a retired foreign ministry official who is now president of the Beijing UFO Research Society who also concludes that waixingren (extraterrestrials) are living among us.
Suns first close encounter occurred in 1971, when he was sent to the remote countryside during the cultural revolution (1966-76) to perform the grueling task of rice planting. One day while toiling in the field, his attention was diverted to a bright object in the sky, which rose and fell repeatedly.
At first, Sun assumed the spectacle was some sort of Cold War intelligence monitoring device - a reasonable deduction considering the times - however years later, after reading foreign materials on UFO sightings, he knew he had experienced a close encounter.
And Sun is not the only expert in the country taking these sightings seriously. According to the highly-accredited Shen Shituan, an actual rocket scientist, president of Beijing Aerospace University and honourary director of the government-supported China UFO Research Association, every report of an alien encounter is worth investigating.
Some of these sightings are real, some are fake and with others its unclear,' said Shen Shituan, a real rocket scientist, president of Beijing Aerospace University and honorary director of the China UFO Research Association. All these phenomena are worth researching.'
Research [ethically-based] into UFOs could help spur new forms of high-speed travel, unlimited sources of non-polluting and non-fossil fuel based energy and faster-growing crops, claims Sun Shili, president of a government-approved UFO Research Association (membership 50,000).
Shen Shituan does not readily dismiss UFO/ET reports like his counterparts in Western scientific communities, including the claims of one worker that aliens entered his Beijing home while his wife and child were present, and whisked him 265 kilometres east and back in only a few hours.
The best-known alien abduction story in China is the case of Meng Zhao Guo, a young tree farmer, from Wuchang, near Harbin in Heilongjiang province.
In June 1994 Zhao Guo and two other farm workers, working at Red Flag logging camp saw something unusual on nearby Mount Pheonix.
The complex and bizarre encounter that followed involved Meng being hit by a beam of light, as well as allegedly experiencing an abduction and a sexual encounter with a female alien.
Meng Zhaoguo, a rural worker from northeast Wuchang city, explains he was 29 when he broke his marital vows for the first and only time with an extraterrestrial of unusually robust build.
She was 10 feet [3.03 metres] tall and had six fingers, but otherwise she looked completely like a human,' he says. I told my wife all about it afterwards. She wasnt too angry.'
During September 2003 Zhang Jingping, a Beijing-based UFO researcher, had psychologists and police technicians subject Zhao Guo to hypnosis and a lie detector test in Beijing. Zhang indicated the test results proved the abductee was telling the truth.
He also indicated that doctors had indicated that Zhao Guos scars could not possibly have been caused by common injuries or surgery. Meng Zhao Guo, a humble farmer with only 5 years schooling, also indicated that he had never heard of UFOs or ufologists until after his experience had been reported.
In China Bill Chalker, an Australia UFO scientist, was able to have extensive discussions with Professor Chen Gongfu, the principal researcher of the Meng Zhao Guo case. He has asked me to assist in getting his research translated and available to western audiences. We are well underway to achieving that goal.
Research on Cao Gongs contact with ETs
In December 1999 Cao Gong, a middle-aged man from Beijing, indicated to Bill Chalker, that he had been abducted by aliens and flown to Qinhuangdao in their UFO. They looked like humans but had large hands and were very pale, Cao said. He said he had also met a Chinese girl in the flying saucer. Zhang Jingpings research investigation began in April 2000. The first step was hypnosis. Zhang invited a famous psychologist from Suzhou and asked him to conduct hypnosis on Cao in helping him to remember the whole incident. Then he brought Cao to the Beijing Bureau of Public Security and gave him a lie detection test. He passed the test, says Zhang. According to Cao, who is the principal of a private school in Fangshan District, he met a Chinese girl in the flying saucer, who looked around 13 years old. The aliens cured her disease in the flying saucer, he claimed. In order to find the girl, Zhang brought Cao to the Tangshan Bureau of Public security in July 2000. The policemen made up a computer image photo-fit of the girls face according to Caos description, says Zhang.
In November 2002, Zhang led a group of students from Beihang University and set out on a trip to Qinhuangdao, in search of the mysterious girl.
There was only a narrow glimmer of hope of finding the girl with only a computer image of her, says Zhang. They arrived in Qinglong County to the north of Qinhuangdao, and began their blind search among the countys 400,000 population. Amazingly, we found a clue on the second day of our search. An old man in the county recognized the girl in our picture, says Zhang. They found the girl soon after that. She was 15 years old. Zhang brought her back to Beijing to meet Cao Gong. She was identified by Cao as the girl he had seen in the UFO. Zhang has now spent three years investigating this case.This case is fascinating and I was fortunate that while in China I was able to discuss the case in detail with Zhang Jingping and other researchers, and also talk to Cao Gong himself.
Fortunately in Beijing, Bill Chalker secured the services of Irene, an excellent translator, guide, and interpreter. Mr. Chalker and Irene have been working on a detailed translation of the case.
Over 400 members of Dalians UFO Society have college degrees
In Dalians UFO Society, 90 per cent of the 400 members have college degrees. Its exciting for us to use science to decipher UFO sightings, said Zhou Xiaoqiang, secretary-general of the Beijing UFO Society.
While few Chinese claim to have managed to get quite as intimate with an extraterrestrial as Meng, a growing number of people in China believe in unidentified flying objects, or UFOs.
In fact, Officially registered UFO associations in China have about 50,000 members, but some estimate the actual number of Chinese interested in the subject is probably in the tens of millions.
China has a bimonthly magazine circulation 400,000 - devoted to UFO research. The conservative state-run media also report UFO sightings on a regular basis, in contrast with Western government organization which, as a policy, deny verifiable human contact with Extraterrestrial. UFO buffs in China claim support from eminent scientists and liaisons with the secretive military, giving their work full scientific respectability.
If something flies over [ET spacecraft], theres a very good reason for trying to understand why theyre here, why they come to us, what is their relationship between us and them, he says.
Wong is the Chairman of Hong Kongs thriving UFO club exploring unidentified flying objects or, to the uninitiated, flying saucers.
The club meets once a month to explore otherworldly topics like E.T. Civilization and alien philosophies.
In order to understand UFO phenomena, we need to have a broad understanding of different disciplines, says Albert So, university professor and Hong Kong UFO club member, including mathematics, physics, history, philosophy, even some sort of paranormal activities and all that.
Western science and pseudo-religions share corresponding systems of dogma, which seek to deny human contact with Extraterrestrials
In order to appreciate the systematized denial of human extraterrestrial contact and influences on Human civilization, which prevails in the West, one needs to appreciate that official science and institutionalized religion in the West are two different heads of the same body politic. Yes, official science in the West talks of evolution, and Western institutionalized religion talks of Creation. However, both groups have reached an apparent consensus to disregard clear evidence of verifiable contact and influences by Extraterrestrials on Human civilization. This joint denial is based upon a shared oppressive ideology, which seeks to repress critical human knowledge of cosmic associations and interactions with Off-world Human and other ET civilizations.
The very same apparent dogma shared between the Western scientific and institutionalized pseudo-religious Establishment, converges in their community of interest associated with their joint pursuit of venality and greed. Examples of the sell-out of integrity, and associated buying into ideology and compromises to elite-induced peer pressure, is well documented in the Western scientific community, that operates in a crass materialistic societal milieu, which ignores basic principles of human rights and democracy. This very same shared dogma between Western scientific and institutionalized pseudo-religious Establishments, is also responsible for the path of oppression, genocide, wars, racisms, and environmental destruction which scientific techologicalocrats and self-professed Christian pseudo-religious missionaries and other apologists have furthered and have supported.
Jesus who supposedly inspired Western Christian religion, which is based on corroborations in the Bible, sought to support the need for wisdom, accompanied by peace and lovingkindness. However, the actual historical practice of institutionalized Christianity, in contrast, has been to maniupate the masses into accepting bigoted views that are designed to complement the materialistic-centred objectives of an organized power elite.
Saying that the Earth is round.. and revolved around the Sun used to be an indictable offence with the prospective sentence of capital punishment, in Western Christian Society which regarded such talk to be the mutterings of seditious lunatics. Official Science and institutionalized religion in the West is not substantively inspired by the free-spirited pursuit of wisdom. Rather, these Establishment milieus in the West are guided by elite ideologues who in contrast with China, and for their own dogma-driven agenda, seek to delude the public on Extraterrestrial awareness, and other areas.
Brazil, India and China are taking the lead on extraterrestrial awarness, Mihir Sen, from the India Daily reports. They want to make sure the emerging new world understands that we have to coexist with our advanced extraterrestrial neighbours. The Indian Daily reports that Extraterrestrials will be forced to more publically reveal themselves in order to try to avoid a planetary disaster which is projected to occur in 2012.
As human civilization is being destroyed under the hyprocisy which guides the Western Scientific and pseudo-religious Establishment, the timely needed enlightenment of human populations on a reported Extraterrestrial presence, could very well be led by China. The government of China notwithstanding accounts of human rights abuses, appears to have constructively prepared members of that society, on the kind of potentially vital awareness context, which Western governments continue to deny its own societal members.
Recommended Readings on a rejuvenating the international political ecomony away from capitalism, which supports the oppression of vital civic awareness in areas which include Extraterrestrials: Do Extraterrestrials Exist? ISBN:189731809X, The Quality-of-Life and Human Development, ISBN: 1897036353, 2006, 2007, Capitalism is Not Democracy, ISBN: 1894934636.
by Paul Chen
