Indonesian Navy receives pitch for Type 214 submarine from Golcük Shipyard

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Indonesian Navy receives pitch for Type 214 submarine from Golcük Shipyard
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
13 April 2017

A computer generated image of the Type 214 submarine, which has been offered to meet the Indonesian Navy's requirements. Source: HDW
Key Points

• Indonesia has added the Type 214 class to a list of submarine platforms it is now considering
• Talks are in line with the Indonesian Navy's strategy of diversifying the mix of its future submarine fleet

The Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) has received an offer from Golcük Shipyard to supply a variant of the Reis (Type 214)-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK).

Multiple TNI-AL sources have confirmed with Jane's that meetings and presentations on the Type 214 class were conducted from early 2017 by a team of Golcük Shipyard and TKMS officials at the TNI-AL headquarters in Cilangkap near Jakarta.

The meetings will be followed by a visit of TNI-AL officials to Golcük Shipyard's facilities near Istanbul, where they will observe construction work on the Turkish Navy's first Type 214 boat, Pirireis (S 330). This visit is currently scheduled to take place from 7 to 12 May 2017, in parallel to the IDEF 2017 exhibition.

The Turkish Navy is anticipating the delivery of six Type 214 submarines from Golcük Shipyard. The first of-class is slated for launch in 2019, and all six boats are expected to be commissioned by 2025.

According to Jane's Fighting Ships , the Reis-class SSK features an overall length of 67.6 m, an overall beam of 6.3 m, and a hull draught of 6.0 m. The platform, which can accommodate a crew of 27 including five officers, has a top speed of 20 kt when dived, and 12 kt when surfaced.

The boat is equipped with bow, flank and towed array sonars, and eight tubes that can launch 533 mm torpedoes including the Raytheon Mk 48 Mod 6, and the Atlas Elektronik DM2A4.

http://www.janes.com/article/69553/...for-type-214-submarine-from-golc%FCk-shipyard

 

[Zarvan]

Sea Platforms
Indonesian Navy receives pitch for Type 214 submarine from Golcük Shipyard
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
13 April 2017

A computer generated image of the Type 214 submarine, which has been offered to meet the Indonesian Navy's requirements. Source: HDW
Key Points

• Indonesia has added the Type 214 class to a list of submarine platforms it is now considering
• Talks are in line with the Indonesian Navy's strategy of diversifying the mix of its future submarine fleet

The Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) has received an offer from Golcük Shipyard to supply a variant of the Reis (Type 214)-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK).

Multiple TNI-AL sources have confirmed with Jane's that meetings and presentations on the Type 214 class were conducted from early 2017 by a team of Golcük Shipyard and TKMS officials at the TNI-AL headquarters in Cilangkap near Jakarta.

The meetings will be followed by a visit of TNI-AL officials to Golcük Shipyard's facilities near Istanbul, where they will observe construction work on the Turkish Navy's first Type 214 boat, Pirireis (S 330). This visit is currently scheduled to take place from 7 to 12 May 2017, in parallel to the IDEF 2017 exhibition.

The Turkish Navy is anticipating the delivery of six Type 214 submarines from Golcük Shipyard. The first of-class is slated for launch in 2019, and all six boats are expected to be commissioned by 2025.

According to Jane's Fighting Ships , the Reis-class SSK features an overall length of 67.6 m, an overall beam of 6.3 m, and a hull draught of 6.0 m. The platform, which can accommodate a crew of 27 including five officers, has a top speed of 20 kt when dived, and 12 kt when surfaced.

The boat is equipped with bow, flank and towed array sonars, and eight tubes that can launch 533 mm torpedoes including the Raytheon Mk 48 Mod 6, and the Atlas Elektronik DM2A4.

http://www.janes.com/article/69553/...for-type-214-submarine-from-golc%FCk-shipyard

Wait does this mean Turkey is fully independent in selling these submarines now.

@cabatli_53 and others

 

[Mr.Department]

Wait does this mean Turkey is fully independent in selling these submarines now.

@cabatli_53 and others

Yes. There are some licence agreements signed .

Google translate :

For Gürdesan Reis class submarines, under the license of ThyssenKrupp Marine System, 492 pieces including torpedo shell, propeller shafts and hydraulic pistons will be produced at the shipyard in Yalova

Gürdesan official Mustafa Gürsoy stated that they will produce 8'er torpedo shells located at the top of the four submarines and he gave us the production of the German contractor torpedo shells because all ships were planned to be trained until the end of 2025. We will grow very fast under the supervision of the German engineer. We will install it in the shipyard in Golcuk by taking it from the sea to the military shipyard in Golcuk by producing in our shipyard in Yalova Altınova.The ThyssenKrupp Marine System rely on the Turkish workforce and engineering.The aim of the submarine's weapons systems is to be made in our country.After this great step taken, Submarines will be native to 70-80%, and there are 19 types of torpedo groups as well as the submarine's propeller system's axles and hydraulic pistons We will manufacture 492 pistons. "

https://sadfor.savtera.org/index.php?topic=140.75

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Wait does this mean Turkey is fully independent in selling these submarines now.

@cabatli_53 and others

The Reiss-class (Turkish Type 214) is being marketed jointly by Turkey and Germany's ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS). This just means that customers now have the option to go for the Turkish Type 214 version.

@Oscar Wasn't there someone still trying to push French submarines to the Pakistan Navy? Any chance the Turkish-German Type 214 could become a factor, especially as a Agosta 70 replacement?

 

[UkroTurk]

What about German secret sanction?
Germany even doesn't sell any tank engine and spare part to Turkey. How is Turkish shipyard going to corporate with Thyssen?

 

[Mr.Department]

What about German secret sanction?
Germany even doesn't sell any tank engine and spare part to Turkey. How is Turkish shipyard going to corporate with Thyssen?

If you have licence you have the blueprints, machines and specs . What sanction ?

 

[UkroTurk]

If you have licence you have the blueprints, machines and specs . What sanction ?

Ship will be without engine ? Engine and other parts?

 

[T-123456]

If you have licence you have the blueprints, machines and specs . What sanction ?

Where do the engines come from,do we use indigenous engines?

 

[HannibalBarca]

What about German secret sanction?
Germany even doesn't sell any tank engine and spare part to Turkey. How is Turkish shipyard going to corporate with Thyssen?

Ship will be without engine ? Engine and other parts?

Where do the engines come from,do we use indigenous engines?

If Turkey couldn't sell it to Indonesia , they will have not bothered marketing it to them...

 

[UkroTurk]

For German technics there wouldn't be any marketing problems, If Turkey didn't corporate or other country.

 

[T-123456]

If Turkey couldn't sell it to Indonesia , they will have not bothered marketing it to them...

Depends on when the deal(the date) was made,dont you think?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Depends on when the deal was made,dont you think?

Yep. Worth noting that the Reiss-class is being marketed to Indonesia in collaboration with TKMS. This is clearly a German-approved venture, maybe aimed at making the Type 214 more competitive (versus manufacturing by HDW in Germany).

 

[T-123456]

Yep. Worth noting that the Reiss-class is being marketed to Indonesia in collaboration with TKMS. This is clearly a German-approved venture, maybe aimed at making the Type 214 more competitive (versus manufacturing by HDW in Germany).

Yes cheaper production probably.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Yes cheaper production probably.

Yeah ...

https://imgflip.com/i/1nawya

 

[HannibalBarca]

Yeah ...

https://imgflip.com/i/1nawya

Maybe later ...who knows...