India’s Weaponization of the Islamophobic Western Far-Right is a Worrisome Global Scandal

[Nityam]

Dragging religion into conversation itself reflects your state of mind. You have proven my point already. Cheers.

I was seeking help for my state of mind. You know that I am a kafir which in turn affect my state of mind.

 

[Rahil khan]

I was seeking help for my state of mind. You know that I am a kafir and hence devoid of allah's grace which in turn affect my state of mind.

Kidoo, if you wanna play this gutter game, many other forums are available on different sites. Your head is buried way deeper than i thought. Typical Indian trying to show neutrality about Islam while spitting venom against Pakistan on Pakistani forum....shown true inner perceptions about Islam as entire religion...!! Your state of mind is same what your tiny brains are spoon fed well before entire Indian election campaign. Now if you wanna continue your nonsense....most welcome but MODS will certainly not tolerate your bullshit. What a pity.

 

[macnurv]

To bust the dreams of the OP
–“Islam is evil” - No one believes this

–“Muslims are evil” A significant amount of people ~20 pc believe this

–“Islamic majority countries are evil” - hell no

–“Pakistan is particularly evil” - definitely

–“Pakistan is a terrorist state” - definitely

–“China is evil”- Definitely no. Its more of a irritant neighbor/rival .

–“Israel and India have a unique destiny in ‘fighting Islam” - **** No. Most people wont be able to answer basic 3 questions about Israel.

And than we wonder why the whole of 1.3 billion people are so mind numb to fall for this narrative. Just remember Nazis did effectively turned almost whole of Germany into blood thirsty genocidal maniacs. Todays India is no different, only an utter moron would wish for absolute war or casually talk about using Nukes.

Spoken like a true suicide bomber.

By that very logic, you have spoken like a true cow piss drinker and a street shitter!

Your big problem is two-fold:
Indians do not go around blowing things up - whether is 9/11 or Sri Lankan churches. if there is any crap coming out it is confined to the boundaries of India. a lot of people in this world do not care for crap that does not affect them.

your second problem is that you are compelled to pontificate or butt in anything in the world related to Islam/Muslims
in theory there is nothing wrong in wanting to associate with Islam/Muslims everyone in this world. in practice it leads to a lot of ticklish issues

Your problems are several Fake american. Your over simplification of a very complex issue could indeed only be a product of an Indian mind pretending to be an American.

Is't this better a better image ?

No this is better.

 

[Nityam]

Kidoo, if you wanna play this gutter game, many other forums are available on different sites. Your head is buried way deeper than i thought. Typical Indian trying to show neutrality about Islam while spitting venom against Pakistan on Pakistani forum....shown true inner perceptions about Islam as entire religion...!! Your state of mind is same what your tiny brains are spoon fed well before entire Indian election campaign. Now if you wanna continue your nonsense....most welcome but MODS will certainly not tolerate your bullshit. What a pity.

You seem confused.

I have no neutrality towards islam. I am a thoroughbred Kafir.

Doesn't this forum exist for the very purpose of seeing our true inner perceptions ? ......... otherwise, what good is it ?

This thread is about "islamophobic" and "weaponization" and Indian role in it ........ so don't you want to understand the roots of "isamophobia" ? and how it can be weaponize ?

What is the purpose of this thread ? Randi rona ? lol.

No this is better.

Your Prophet muhammed certainly though. Only it was Camel.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/76/9


Since anything more is against forum rules, I suggest you google the rest.

 

[Rahil khan]

You seem confused.

I have no neutrality towards islam. I am a thoroughbred Kafir.

Doesn't this forum exist for the very purpose of seeing our true inner perceptions ? ......... otherwise, what good is it ?

This thread is about "islamophobic" and "weaponization" and Indian role in it ........ so don't you want to understand the roots of "isamophobia" ? and how it can be weaponize ?

What is the purpose of this thread ? Randi rona ? lol.

Not at all. Most Indians like you usually are here to propagate whatever they have been exposed to their entire lives. Framing Pakistan without terrorism is an odd thing for your tender mindsets....!! Islamophobia is global scale challenge but you Indians with their Pakistani obsession repeatedly solidify their stupid perceptions about neighbours while talking about religion. That is the entire problem you folks have. Just read again post # 2 of yours in this thread...cherry picked that part of the opening thread which your altered to represent your mindset. For me you are a thoroughly retarded guy who is part of same propaganda machinery trying to beat zig zag lines with full effect. Perceptions built on stupid assumptions ( like use of word such as Kaafir repeatedly) can only take this discussion nowhere at all. So stop randi rona and have any constructive arguments if you have.

 

[Nityam]

Not at all. Most Indians like you usually are here to propagate whatever they have been exposed to their entire lives. Framing Pakistan without terrorism is an odd thing for your tender mindsets....!! Islamophobia is global scale challenge but you Indians with their Pakistani obsession repeatedly solidify their stupid perceptions about neighbours while talking about religion. That is the entire problem you folks have. Just read again post # 2 of yours in this thread...cherry picked that part of the opening thread which your altered to represent your mindset. For me you are a thoroughly retarded guy who is part of same propaganda machinery trying to beat zig zag lines with full effect. Perceptions built on stupid assumptions ( like use of word such as Kaafir repeatedly) can only take this discussion nowhere at all. So stop randi rona and have any constructive arguments if you have.

LOL..... obviously Indians will propagate what they have been exposed to their entire life. Its called difference of opinion.

My cherry picking was very apt for your gross generalization.

The world "Kafir" is from the Quran, is it not ? ......... the very word of God himself. So if your God himself chooses to call me Kafir, then I fail to understand your objections. lol.

I am having a constructive argument, you are just unable to handle it and wants me to stop or be banned for it.

When was the last time a Indian asked for you to be banned ?

 

[Rusty]

Your big problem is two-fold:
Indians do not go around blowing things up - whether is 9/11 or Sri Lankan churches. if there is any crap coming out it is confined to the boundaries of India. a lot of people in this world do not care for crap that does not affect them.

your second problem is that you are compelled to pontificate or butt in anything in the world related to Islam/Muslims
in theory there is nothing wrong in wanting to associate with Islam/Muslims everyone in this world. in practice it leads to a lot of ticklish issues

I don't see how any of what you said is my problem or even a problem at all.

Indians invented suicide bombings by their proxy the LTTE so don't be so modest.
News is coming out that the terrorists in SriLanka had connections wih India, either training or supplies. So there goes your "theory" of Indians not exporting terror.

Lets not even get into the Indian support of terrorism in Pakistan.

How many people were affected by Christchurch?
How did the world react?
I don't buy your synical view of the world.
When christchurch happend, the world came out and condemned it (Interestingly, only Indians and White nationalsists cheered on the shooter)

butt in?
So here is your problem, Are Pakistanis part of the Indian civilzation or not?
-You people keep saying that we were once hindus and blah blah blah, but then go off and say we have no right to have opinions on India.

Of all the Muslims in the world, Indian muslims are the most closely related to us. We marry with them, we share a culture, history and often times a language with them.
So what you call "butting in" we call "looking out for our cousins.

Now the real reason you posted this is becuase your ideology, hindutva, was literally modeled on Mussalini's facists.
That is a fact you cannot deny.
What you people want is for the world, especially Pakistan, so close their eyes and allow you to abuse the Muslims in India up to genocide so you can have yoru fairy tale Hindu India (that never existed, just like the first and second reich).

 

[Nityam]

I don't see how any of what you said is my problem or even a problem at all.

Indians invented suicide bombings by their proxy the LTTE so don't be so modest.
News is coming out that the terrorists in SriLanka had connections wih India, either training or supplies. So there goes your "theory" of Indians not exporting terror.

Lets not even get into the Indian support of terrorism in Pakistan.

How many people were affected by Christchurch?
How did the world react?
I don't buy your synical view of the world.
When christchurch happend, the world came out and condemned it (Interestingly, only Indians and White nationalsists cheered on the shooter)

butt in?
So here is your problem, Are Pakistanis part of the Indian civilzation or not?
-You people keep saying that we were once hindus and blah blah blah, but then go off and say we have no right to have opinions on India.

Of all the Muslims in the world, Indian muslims are the most closely related to us. We marry with them, we share a culture, history and often times a language with them.
So what you call "butting in" we call "looking out for our cousins.

Now the real reason you posted this is becuase your ideology, hindutva, was literally modeled on Mussalini's facists.
That is a fact you cannot deny.
What you people want is for the world, especially Pakistan, so close their eyes and allow you to abuse the Muslims in India up to genocide so you can have yoru fairy tale Hindu India (that never existed, just like the first and second reich).

Meanwhile in the Real World,

https://gellerreport.com/2019/04/isis-leader-back.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

ISIS LEADER ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDADI SEEN IN NEW VIDEO FOR FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS

“And as for our brothers in Sri Lanka, I was overjoyed when I heard about the suicide attack, which overthrew the cradles of the Crusaders, and avenged them for our brethren in Baghouz,” he said, as the video showed footage from the atrocities and the pledge of allegiance by the attackers.

“It was by the grace of god that there were Americans and Europeans in Sri Lanka,” he said. “They questioned God, who answered in the form of bringing the suicide attackers.”

 

[nahtanbob]

I don't see how any of what you said is my problem or even a problem at all.

Indians invented suicide bombings by their proxy the LTTE so don't be so modest.
News is coming out that the terrorists in SriLanka had connections wih India, either training or supplies. So there goes your "theory" of Indians not exporting terror.
.

thanks for proving my point

sri lankan civil war did not impact the outside world. nobody cares about LTTE suicide bombings because it did not impact them. how many people outside Sri Lanka associates Tamils with terrorism ? for that matter inside sri lanka.

save a few pakistanis how many people associate LTTE violence with Hinduism ? 80% of LTTE soldiers were Hindus, Sri Lankans do not. they may blame India for one-time support of LTTE not Hinduism

 

[Nityam]

thanks for proving my point

sri lankan civil war did not impact the outside world. nobody cares about LTTE suicide bombings because it did not impact them. how many people outside Sri Lanka associates Tamils with terrorism ? for that matter inside sri lanka.

save a few pakistanis how many people associate LTTE violence with Hinduism ? 80% of LTTE soldiers were Hindus, Sri Lankans do not. they may blame India for one-time support of LTTE not Hinduism

Actually the entire leadership of LTTE was Christian.

And they were fighting to protect their linguistic identity and associated rights. They were not fighting to establish a "Hindu homeland".


But this is EUROPE NOW,

https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/04/s...s-for-91-percent-of-terror-victims-in-europe/

Study: Radical Islamic terrorism accounts for 91 percent of terror victims in Europe

 

[Rusty]

thanks for proving my point

sri lankan civil war did not impact the outside world. nobody cares about LTTE suicide bombings because it did not impact them. how many people outside Sri Lanka associates Tamils with terrorism ? for that matter inside sri lanka.

save a few pakistanis how many people associate LTTE violence with Hinduism ? 80% of LTTE soldiers were Hindus, Sri Lankans do not. they may blame India for one-time support of LTTE not Hinduism

... I have no idea what you are talking about and what your point is.... I don't think you even know what your point is.

I think you are trying to say "World associates Islam with terrorism but not Hindus"

If you are saying that, then boy... you really are not that bright.

This whole hindutva favorite of "world knows islam as terrorists" means nothing. Western media and western governments are amazing at propoganda, they even convinced the world that in Islam when you die you get 72 virgins. Which is obviously not true. your entire point is based on propoganda.

And here we are 20 years later and the propoganda is finally being reveresed, slowly but surely.

At the same time, western proproganda portrayed Hinduism as some kind of benign religon where people are simply happy to be poor.
But that is also now changing with all the news of poverty, cast system, and abuse of minorities coming out.
(even Pewdepie is making points like that)

 

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India’s Weaponization of the Islamophobic Western Far-Right is a Worrisome Global Scandal

Written by Adam Garrie on 2019-04-29

Countries that are forced to rely on intense perception management in order to hide the nature of their true internal realities from the outside world often look towards cost-effective means of simultaneously seducing, confusing and misleading gullible foreigners. But if the “Incredible India” campaign of the early 2000s was a throwback to a mid-20th century when western hippies became enamoured with Indian spiritual traditions, today’s less officially publicized Indian propaganda campaign is far more dangerous in its aim and in its methods.

In many respects, India is following a similar route to Russia in terms of perception management. During the Soviet era, Moscow promoted various leftest parties, activists and causes throughout western nations in an attempt to weaken the centrist political consensus in the wider western world. During that same time, India’s economy was too depressed to attempt anything similar but India nevertheless revelled in the uneducated western perception of India as a kind, gentle leftist agrarian utopia whose lack of economic development was somehow a sign of spiritual sophistication vis-à-vis the west, as opposed to a sign of economic inefficiency.

21st century Russia propaganda has of course taken a substantial right turn since the days of the USSR. Today, Russian mainstream and social media aimed at western audiences tends to advance narratives favoured by the western right and far-right which revolve around a hatred of immigrants, a disdain for the legal authorities, Islamophobia and the theory that “globalism” has eroded western culture. To be sure, other areas of Russian media aimed at the west continue to promote old leftest narratives, thus satisfying the USSR’s Cold War era demographic while interpolating the western right and far-right into the equation.

But while Russian efforts to influence minds in the west are not only well known but have in fact been exaggerated in terms of both the scope and impact, Indian propaganda continues to be ignored even though the extremist elements currently in charge of Indian politics have a very long history of association with the far right of the west.

Indian social media is best described as profitable chaos. Major American companies continue to profit from India’s love of social media and while much of this use is benign (however awkward), there are malignant political elements within India’s social media that would make an ordinary person’s skin crawl if they were exposed to the vulgarity, racism, Islamophobia and hatred that is rife throughout portions of Indian social media.

As the Hindutva BJP looks to consolidate its power once the ongoing election concludes, supporters of the ruling party and other extreme Hindutva parties as well as the RSS, continue to spread a deeply Islamophobic narrative in English with a self-evident intention of seducing the western far-right and attracting oblivious westerns to a far-right ideology.

The narrative is one that is far simpler and cruder than anything coming out of Russia and making matters more dangerous is the fact that due to India’s large population, it is surprisingly easy to interact with individuals on line who believe their own RSS style Hindutva propaganda. The simplistic narrative revolves around the follow false and inflammatory assertions:

–“Islam is evil”

–“Muslims are evil”

–“Islamic majority countries are evil”

–“Pakistan is particularly evil”

–“Pakistan is a terrorist state”

–“China is evil”

–“Israel and India have a unique destiny in ‘fighting Islam”

–“Anyone who disagrees with the Hindutva narrative is either a western leftist or an agent of Pakistan (or in some cases an agent of China)”

Beyond this, the Hindutva narrative aimed at the west attempts to woo westerners by drawing parallels between the Islamic civilisations of south Asia and 21st century Islamic migration to Europe. Whilst sovereign states like the Delhi Sultanate and later the Mughal Empire are considered by political historians, art historians and architecture historians and sociologists to have been makers of great epochs in the wider history of the subcontinent, for the Hindutva propagandists, the Delhi Sultanate, Mughal Empire and other Islamic sovereigns are considered “foreign invaders”.

This narrative seeks to present an always multi-cultural and multi-faith subcontinent as a Hindutva monolith that was somehow “ruined” by the construction of Islamic societies. This of course discounts the fact that Hinduism was never a united, monolithic spiritual practice but instead has wide regional and even individual variations. It also ignores the fact that the very word Hindu has its origins as a geographical rather than a religious term.

The name India itself is derived from ancient Farsi – the lingua franca of the Achaemenid Empire. Making matters all the more embarrassing for contemporary politicians who seek to present Hindu religious culture as a monolith, the truth is that the very name Hindu itself has etymological roots as a geographical rather than religious distinction. The word Hindu has its origins in the Sanskrit word Sindhu which refers to what is now referred to in English as the River Indus, a waterway that is located primarily in modern Pakistan. Locals in Pakistan and parts of India still typically refer to the river as The Sindhu. Of course, the Pakistani province of Sindh, derives its name from the same root word.

The word Sindhu was eventually Persianised (centuries before the birth of the Prophet Muhammad, PBUH) as Hindu and came to refer not only to the river itself but to the peoples who lived east of the river. Likewise, the term Indoi (from which the word India is derived) was merely a Hellenised version of the Persian Hindu. Furthermore, it was only in the late 18th century when European imperialists in south Asia began to refer to the non-Muslim populations of south Asia collectively as Hindus.

In this sense, the contemporary Hindutva narrative of a dominant Hindu culture that was somehow eradicated by Islamic rulers of Turkic or Turko-Mogal descent who were culturally Persianate, is not actual history, but instead represents a deeply narrow minded distortion of history. With the exceptions of the ancient Maurya Empire and Gupta Empire, the medieval and late modern sovereigns that have come closest to uniting India and south Asia as a whole, have either been those led by Muslim rulers or in the case of the British Raj, European rulers with no indigenous connection to Asia.

Finally, the notion of “Islamic invaders” also discounts the fact that some of India’s most profitable and famous tourist destinations trace their origins to the Mughal Empire. This includes the Taj Mahal which is a shrine built by the Mughal Emperor Shahab-ud-din Muhammad Shah Jahan. One can only imagine how much it must irk Hindutva extremists to have to acknowledge that within the Taj Mahal is an active mosque.

But just as is the case with most narratives predicated on a narrow notion of one group’s supremacy against all others, the Hindutva narrative continues to find sympathy among despondent westerners who believe that all of the socio-economic problems of the west are caused by Islam, in spite of the fact that most western countries having only very minimal Islamic populations.

In this sense, just as the UK based Islamophobic agitator Tommy Robinson has received public support from certain Zionist organisations, Indian social media has followed a similar route in targeting Islamophobic westerners in order to build a narrative that promotes the concept of India as a sympathetic nation in a “struggle against Islam”. It is therefore no wonder that Tommy Robinson actively supports the break up of Pakistan through his promotion of the same Baloch separatism that for decades has been supported by India’s RAW intelligence body.

If western countries are seriously concerned about stemming the tide of far-right extremism, they ought to look at what for little to no cost, India’s Hindutva establishment is doing to promote a radical anti-Islamic narrative among a western far-right that as the recent New Zealand terror attack proves, is capable of turning its rhetoric into actual violence against a Muslim minority.

Thankfully, western attacks on the Islamic minority have not been as savage as events like the Gujarat Massacre of 2002 or the recent and growing wave of cow vigilante mobs. However, if moderate westerners are not made aware of how Hindutva trolls, bots and agitators use social media to advance a violent Islamophobic message, things could become more dire.

Great post.. to the point and accurate

 

[Rusty]

Meanwhile in the Real World,

https://gellerreport.com/2019/04/isis-leader-back.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

ISIS LEADER ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDADI SEEN IN NEW VIDEO FOR FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS

“And as for our brothers in Sri Lanka, I was overjoyed when I heard about the suicide attack, which overthrew the cradles of the Crusaders, and avenged them for our brethren in Baghouz,” he said, as the video showed footage from the atrocities and the pledge of allegiance by the attackers.

“It was by the grace of god that there were Americans and Europeans in Sri Lanka,” he said. “They questioned God, who answered in the form of bringing the suicide attackers.”

Are you denying the Indian connection?

 

[Nityam]

Are you denying the Indian connection?

Are you denying the Islam connection to terrorism ?

... I have no idea what you are talking about and what your point is.... I don't think you even know what your point is.

I think you are trying to say "World associates Islam with terrorism but not Hindus"

If you are saying that, then boy... you really are not that bright.

This whole hindutva favorite of "world knows islam as terrorists" means nothing. Western media and western governments are amazing at propoganda, they even convinced the world that in Islam when you die you get 72 virgins. Which is obviously not true. your entire point is based on propoganda.

And here we are 20 years later and the propoganda is finally being reveresed, slowly but surely.

At the same time, western proproganda portrayed Hinduism as some kind of benign religon where people are simply happy to be poor.
But that is also now changing with all the news of poverty, cast system, and abuse of minorities coming out.
(even Pewdepie is making points like that)

How do you educate your child in Islam ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1121120377734823940

 

[Rusty]

Are you denying the Islam connection to terrorism ?



How do you educate your child in Islam ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1121120377734823940

Answering question with a question. Last resort of low IQ people.

And I can cherry pick a thousand videos of HIndus doing crazy stuff as well.
Again, low IQ responces