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India's victories against militants in Kashmir are largely pyrrhic
The army’s tactics only serve to alienate ordinary Kashmiris

May 12th 2018 | DELHI
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BY ONE account, what happened in Shopian district in the Indian part of Kashmir on the first Sunday in May was a stinging defeat for jihadism. Security forces had trapped five armed rebels in a house during the night. When the shooting stopped at noon they were all dead. Among them was Saddam Paddar, the local commander of a militant Islamist group. He had been on the wanted list since 2014 but, more importantly to police, also happened to be the last man still at large among 11 young guerrillas whose group photograph, taken in 2015, had gone viral, inspiring support for armed resistance to Indian rule. The “neutralisation” of Mr Paddar—in the words of a police spokesman—symbolised the futility of insurrection.

Other tellings emphasise different elements of the day’s events. As happens with growing regularity during the Indian army’s search-and-kill operations in the Kashmir Valley, hundreds of villagers had gathered at the scene to try to protect the doomed fugitives. During the incident and in subsequent protests, police gunfire killed six more people, all civilians. Dozens more were hospitalised, many with shotgun pellets lodged in their eyes. More than 1,250 people have been treated for similar eye injuries over the past two years.

The Shopian “martyrs” all turned out to be local Kashmiris and not, as has often been the case in the past, infiltrators from Pakistan. Tens of thousands thronged their funerals. One viral video showed a woman, said to be Mr Paddar’s mother, standing on a rooftop before a chanting crowd and firing an automatic rifle in a gesture of defiance. It emerged, too, that one of the slain militants had been a popular teacher of sociology at the University of Kashmir. He had earned his doctorate only in November, and had joined the rebels just two days before his death. As inexorably as police are hunting down rebels, Kashmiris concluded, new recruits are joining them.

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The contrast between these two narratives helps explain why Kashmir remains in uproar after 30 years of turmoil. Following a decline in political violence after a Pakistan-backed insurgency peaked 20 years ago, the death toll has mounted again in recent years, from a low of 117 fatalities in 2012 to 358 in 2017, and 132 so far this year.

Yet the situation as understood in Delhi, the Indian capital, as purveyed in the Indian press and as widely accepted by 1.3bn other Indians, is that brave Indian troops are waging a largely successful effort to crush a small but resilient band of Islamist terrorists who are operated by remote control from Pakistan. The situation as experienced in the Kashmir Valley, whose 7m people are nearly all Kashmiri-speaking Muslims, is rather different. In the absence of any political initiative from Delhi to respond to Kashmiris’ concerns, the heavy-handed efforts of half a million soldiers to crush a few dozen armed militants are compounding a growing sense of alienation from India.

The disjuncture in these views is reflected in the clumsy coalition that runs the state. One partner is the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), whose local support is concentrated in the Hindu-majority region of Jammu but which also runs the national government. The other is the Peoples Democratic Party, one of several Kashmiri groups that participate in elections and so are branded traitors by more radical factions. The relative strength of the radicals, who include pro-independence, pro-Pakistan and pan-Islamist groups, is hard to judge since they are either banned or have boycotted elections. Partly as a result, voter turnout has typically been low.

Following another bloody Sunday in early April that left 19 people dead, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, the elderly leader of one dissident group, released a video of himself banging on the inside of his own gate, demanding to be released from house arrest. “Open the doors,” he shouted to police outside, “I want to attend the funeral of your democracy.”

Indian democracy is not quite dead in the Kashmir Valley, but it is certainly ailing. Since the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947 called their fate into question, Kashmiris have been hostage to relations between the two. In its focus on the bigger picture, India has often flouted Kashmiri concerns. This trend has grown harsher since the BJP took power in 2014, vowing to end “appeasement” of Indian Muslims and to get tough on Pakistan. As Mohammed Ayoob, an Indian-American political scientist, recently lamented in the Hindu, an Indian daily, “If the political elites had the sagacity to solve or at least manage the problem ‘in’ Kashmir, the problem ‘of’ Kashmir would have lost its salience over time. Unfortunately, they did exactly the reverse.”

https://www.economist.com/news/asia...-kashmiris-indias-victories-against-militants
 
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Indians don't understand how freedom fighters work. These people have never fought for freedom. The Muslims came and they lay down and became their slaves. The British came and they did the same.

A soldier is dispensible, his role is to fight for his cause and damage the enemy - it is not his job to be there at the end to see the victory, it is his role to do what it takes to deliver the victory, including dying.

As Muslims we consider fighting against oppression and obligitary part of our faith. To be martyred in such a cause is considered the most honourable death. The Indians consider death to be a penalty.

Freedom is fueled with the blood of martyrs.
 
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The irony of your statement is that those you actually laid down and surrendered were all Muslims. Thats how Muslims came into being into the Indian subcontinent. Islam is not indigenous. You gave up hence you are muslims.

No, our ancestors recognised a superior system of living and adapted to it. You lot kept your heads in the sand and spent 1000 years under our rule.
 
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The irony of your statement is that those you actually laid down and surrendered were all Muslims. Thats how Muslims came into being into the Indian subcontinent. Islam is not indigenous. You gave up hence you are muslims.
may be our ancestors are sane enough and they gave up worshipping flying monkey and rats .
 
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No, our ancestors recognised a superior system of living and adapted to it. You lot kept your heads in the sand and spent 1000 years under our rule.

Not your rule and not 1000 years and not all of India.

India's victories against militants in Kashmir are largely pyrrhic
The army’s tactics only serve to alienate ordinary Kashmiris

May 12th 2018 | DELHI
20180512_asp002.jpg

BY ONE account, what happened in Shopian district in the Indian part of Kashmir on the first Sunday in May was a stinging defeat for jihadism. Security forces had trapped five armed rebels in a house during the night. When the shooting stopped at noon they were all dead. Among them was Saddam Paddar, the local commander of a militant Islamist group. He had been on the wanted list since 2014 but, more importantly to police, also happened to be the last man still at large among 11 young guerrillas whose group photograph, taken in 2015, had gone viral, inspiring support for armed resistance to Indian rule. The “neutralisation” of Mr Paddar—in the words of a police spokesman—symbolised the futility of insurrection.

Other tellings emphasise different elements of the day’s events. As happens with growing regularity during the Indian army’s search-and-kill operations in the Kashmir Valley, hundreds of villagers had gathered at the scene to try to protect the doomed fugitives. During the incident and in subsequent protests, police gunfire killed six more people, all civilians. Dozens more were hospitalised, many with shotgun pellets lodged in their eyes. More than 1,250 people have been treated for similar eye injuries over the past two years.

The Shopian “martyrs” all turned out to be local Kashmiris and not, as has often been the case in the past, infiltrators from Pakistan. Tens of thousands thronged their funerals. One viral video showed a woman, said to be Mr Paddar’s mother, standing on a rooftop before a chanting crowd and firing an automatic rifle in a gesture of defiance. It emerged, too, that one of the slain militants had been a popular teacher of sociology at the University of Kashmir. He had earned his doctorate only in November, and had joined the rebels just two days before his death. As inexorably as police are hunting down rebels, Kashmiris concluded, new recruits are joining them.

20180512_WOM977.png

The contrast between these two narratives helps explain why Kashmir remains in uproar after 30 years of turmoil. Following a decline in political violence after a Pakistan-backed insurgency peaked 20 years ago, the death toll has mounted again in recent years, from a low of 117 fatalities in 2012 to 358 in 2017, and 132 so far this year.

Yet the situation as understood in Delhi, the Indian capital, as purveyed in the Indian press and as widely accepted by 1.3bn other Indians, is that brave Indian troops are waging a largely successful effort to crush a small but resilient band of Islamist terrorists who are operated by remote control from Pakistan. The situation as experienced in the Kashmir Valley, whose 7m people are nearly all Kashmiri-speaking Muslims, is rather different. In the absence of any political initiative from Delhi to respond to Kashmiris’ concerns, the heavy-handed efforts of half a million soldiers to crush a few dozen armed militants are compounding a growing sense of alienation from India.

The disjuncture in these views is reflected in the clumsy coalition that runs the state. One partner is the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), whose local support is concentrated in the Hindu-majority region of Jammu but which also runs the national government. The other is the Peoples Democratic Party, one of several Kashmiri groups that participate in elections and so are branded traitors by more radical factions. The relative strength of the radicals, who include pro-independence, pro-Pakistan and pan-Islamist groups, is hard to judge since they are either banned or have boycotted elections. Partly as a result, voter turnout has typically been low.

Following another bloody Sunday in early April that left 19 people dead, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, the elderly leader of one dissident group, released a video of himself banging on the inside of his own gate, demanding to be released from house arrest. “Open the doors,” he shouted to police outside, “I want to attend the funeral of your democracy.”

Indian democracy is not quite dead in the Kashmir Valley, but it is certainly ailing. Since the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947 called their fate into question, Kashmiris have been hostage to relations between the two. In its focus on the bigger picture, India has often flouted Kashmiri concerns. This trend has grown harsher since the BJP took power in 2014, vowing to end “appeasement” of Indian Muslims and to get tough on Pakistan. As Mohammed Ayoob, an Indian-American political scientist, recently lamented in the Hindu, an Indian daily, “If the political elites had the sagacity to solve or at least manage the problem ‘in’ Kashmir, the problem ‘of’ Kashmir would have lost its salience over time. Unfortunately, they did exactly the reverse.”

https://www.economist.com/news/asia...-kashmiris-indias-victories-against-militants


Complete trash article a nice example of strawman argument and Yellow journalism , guess we are living in a post fact world .
 
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No, our ancestors recognised a superior system of living and adapted to it. You lot kept your heads in the sand and spent 1000 years under our rule.
Sure. Got ya. Totally agreed. Your ancestors were not enslaved, raped and forced to follow the same religion you defend now and you were not weak and you were able to resist them. GOTCHYA
 
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No, our ancestors recognised a superior system of living and adapted to it.

Why didn't you became Christians when Britishers came? They had most superior system of living, not to mention science and tech that an Island smaller than most states of India had control over many countries? The world, system, laws, Railways, Education etc is influenced by Britishers. I don't see you enthusiastically jumping to their side you turncoat, infact, i see you and your ilk justifying Islam against enlightening facts and knowledge of west.
 
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Not your rule and not 1000 years and not all of India.




Complete trash article a nice example of strawman argument and Yellow journalism , guess we are living in a post fact world .
typical economist article with no facts but only BS. They are sad their former cronies are being liquidated.
 
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This is the new bhangi lingo. Islam was spread by the sufi, not the sword.

Although I don't want to get into this debate..but your statement forced me to intervene sir. If you really think thats how Islam spread in the subcontinet... then you need to start asking serious question to your education system and your text book authors.
 
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Can you fools please stop making the Kashmir movement a religious movement? It's a nationalist movement...it always has been. Kashmir is for Kashmiris...not for Pakistan and not for India. Let Kashmiris decide what they want to do.

Also, you Indians love to talk about a few dozen Pandits that were killed in 1989, while conveniently ignoring the Jammu genocide of Muslims in 1947 whereby Dogra troopers literally cleansed 500,000 Muslims in Jammu. They were either rounded up village by village and then murdered in the forests or were FORCED to flee to Sialkot, where the largest population of Jammu Muslims live today.

By the way, it was this Jammu exodus which is what erupted the violence in Punjab. Stories of Dogra atrocities spread when refugees from Jammu arrived. Punjabis then sadly took revenge on the migrating Hindus and Sikhs from West Punjab.

Also, if Indians cared that much about Pandits, they wouldn't be living like animals in Delhi today. Even Afghans in Pakistan have it better than Pandits in Delhi. Some have even willingly gone back to Kashmir, simply because India offers them nothing.

Lastly, it doesn't matter if Kashmir become an independent country or joins Pakistan. Either way, Kashmir will need Pakistan. The Valley's entire natural trade routes come through Pakistan...the chant "Kashmir ki mandi...Rawalpindi" is not a coincidence. Rawalpindi and Upper Punjab have had a very close relationship with the Kashmir Valley for over a century.
 
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Although I don't want to get into this debate..but your statement forced me to intervene sir. If you really think thats how Islam spread in the subcontinet... then you need to start asking serious question to your education system and your text book authors.

People in the subcontinent converted to Islam for different different reasons. Some loved the religion some wanted status some wanted to get away from caste system. You can forcefully rape a girl but you can't forcefully make her fall in love with you.

You are a Sikh right? Do you know when guru Nanak started Sikhism majority high caste Punjabis already converted to Islam. Sikhs are mainly jatts and mazhabis. Jatt is a farmer caste and mazhabis are dalits. Even though Sikhism founded by Khatris but they are minority among overall Sikh population. Sikhism is mixture of sufi Islam and hinduism.
 
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Although I don't want to get into this debate..but your statement forced me to intervene sir. If you really think thats how Islam spread in the subcontinet... then you need to start asking serious question to your education system and your text book authors.

Islam spread in Punjab and Sindh mainly due to Sufism. I could careless about the Ganga or Deccan (North and South India)...how it was spread there is beyond me. All I know is, Sufism is what brought Islam into the mainstream Punjabi and Sindhi communities.

You being a Sikh should know the importance of Sufi Punjabi saints...assuming you're a real Sikh and not a Saffronized Sikh.
 
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Also, you Indians love to talk about a few dozen Pandits that were killed in 1989,
Those dozen pandits killed and more than half million driven away from their ancestral homes are blood brothers of kashmiri muslims. They are of same race, they shared same heritage and probably have same ancestors too.. The only difference between them is that pandits didnt convert and leave there ancestral religion.
 
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india's so called "victories" against the kashmiri freedom fighters exist only in the b-rated bollywood sitcoms called the indian news media...THIS is the reality of the so called "indian victory": 8-)

 
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