India’s Super Rich Population is Exploding!

[anant_s]

What we need is a Socialist revolution so that the wealth can be returned to the masses instead of being concentrated in few hands like those that belong to extremely rich guys like @SarthakGanguly and @Joe Shearer .

Both have a jacuzi, a mini bar stocked with the best Cognac in the world and seats made out of the hide of endangered species in their personal limousines and both use a $100 bill as a wet-wipe to clean their hands after dinner !


I'd add @Dillinger to the list purrr as a fellow former Accountant....I know...apniii jaiiib mein tou paisaa hiii nahin hotaaa !

Ah i see what u mean

"Ahh, there's nothing better than a cigarette... unless it's a cigarette lit with a $100 bill!"
— Krusty the Klown, The Simpsons

 

[jamahir]

Oh **** no. Don't tell me you actually support those terrorists.

even carlos ( the jackal ) is a "terrorist" to many.

So what have you done? (serious)

surely, you do not really expect the answer on pdf with its many sangh supporters/members...

but i am presently a a computer designer, and technology is partially my way towards social/political change... i am involved in design of a microprocessor.

also presently, i am allying with a national political party... give me a few weeks, i will say which one.

 

[Soumitra]

even carlos ( the jackal ) is a "terrorist" to many.



surely, you do not really expect the answer on pdf with its many sangh supporters/members...

but i am presently a a computer designer, and technology is partially my way towards social/political change... i am involved in design of a microprocessor.

also presently, i am allying with a national political party... give me a few weeks, i will say which one.

Oh so you are trying to design a microprocessor and a computer system which will wipe out all the money in the stock exchange and distribute it among the poor. One click of the mouse and you will turn Ambani to a Bhikari.

Great Plan

 

[jamahir]

Oh so you are trying to design a microprocessor and a computer system which will wipe out all the money in the stock exchange and distribute it among the poor. One click of the mouse and you will turn Ambani to a Bhikari.

Great Plan

my ambitions are transnational... and ambani is nothing, he earns from selling petrol and cell phone connections to india's job classes and students... ambani is no elon musk to keep having a fine future.

stock exchanges have no future even in the anglo nations... didn't "occupy london" start of as "occupy london stock exchange".

leave aside stock exchanges, money has no future.

 

[Soumitra]

leave aside stock exchanges, money has no future.

Wow so you want to go back to the barter system. Great vision for socialism.

No doubt it is the most outlandish ideology in the world which is laughed at by sane people

 

[jamahir]

Wow so you want to go back to the barter system. Great vision for socialism.

why do some members here keep replying with "barter system"... when i say "no money" i mean no money and no economics.

why should anyone exhange anything except with contribution to society... contribution is the only natural and scientific currency... remember the socialist credos - "one who produces, can consume" and "from each according to his capacity, to each according to his need"...

No doubt it is the most outlandish ideology in the world which is laughed at by sane people

and "sane" people forward the oh-so-nice concept of inequality and injustice through money system??

 

[Soumitra]

why do some members here keep replying with "barter system"... when i say "no money" i mean no money and no economics.

Can you give any example of "no money and no economics" without the use of barter system? or give me a practical way it will run?

You said Ambani is a nobody and he deals with Oil and telecom. Let us just take these 2 products. Both these products are essential for us. Tell me how in this No Money No Ecomics system will this work? If you want petrol for your car how will you get it? If you want to recharge your mobile to call your loved ones how will you do it? Ambani has spent millions of dollars in oil exploration and setting up of a telecom network. Will he give you these services for free?

Can you answer these questions without empty rhetoric and hyperbole?

why should anyone exhange anything except with contribution to society... contribution is the real currency... remember the socialist credos - "one who produces, can consume" and "from each according to his capacity, to each according to his need"...

Capitalist credo is To each according to his ability. IF you have the ability you will get the money and success. If not you will languish in bottom.

and "sane" people forward the oh-so-just concept of inequality and injustice through money system??

There is no inequality but just lazy people who want to live on freebies

 

[jamahir]

Can you give any example of "no money and no economics" without the use of barter system? or give me a practical way it will run?

though this is a system yet to arrive, the nearest and immediate practical i can give is from the libyan jamahiriya ( from 1979 )...

Plus, doctors, hospitals and medicines were all for free. Nobody paid for education in a Libyan school and whoever wanted to continue their education outside the country would receive a substantially good scholarship.

The Libyan not willing to work would receive the equivalent salary valued today of $ 7,000 USD per month.

^^^ this later was reduced to 1000 usa dollars but still think of how much that is in indian rupees... 60,000.

It was a habit in the country that if someone did not like the car anymore, he only had to abandon the car with the key inside.

^^^ and anybody could take away that car ( even a mercedes benz ) and use it until they liked. though later, the state subsidized purchase by individuals of good cars.

Just to have an idea about Gaddafi's Libya, everything sold was about the same price, $3 USD. There were gigantic supermarkets, but nothing was sold at retail. Anyone wishing to buy rice, for example, would pay $ 3 for the 50 kilo bag. Everything was sold on that basis.

source - The Libya I Once Knew


plus in libya until 2011...

1. electricity and water were for free.

2. housing was rent-free... housing was either given free by the system or subsidized by the state... also, see 5.

3. if you wanted to do agriculture, the system provided you free land, free housing, free seeds, free fertilizer, free tools and tractors.

4. if you wanted to start a business, the system would provide 20,000 usa dollars as your seed funding, without interest-charge of course... and banking was decentralized and system owned, with no interest-charging system.

5. when a young couple got married, they got 50,000 usa dollars to start married life... plus the birth of a child got them another 5000 dollars.

---->> think of how much money a libyan citizen did not have to spend to live very comfortably... nobody was poor, homeless, hungry... it was like i say to people, "money is facility, not necessity".

---->> the logical extension of the libyan jamahiriya system was one with money removed, because money didn't technically define and confine anyone's life there.

You said Ambani is a nobody and he deals with Oil and telecom. Let us just take these 2 products. Both these products are essential for us. Tell me how in this No Money No Ecomics system will this work? If you want petrol for your car how will you get it? If you want to recharge your mobile to call your loved ones how will you do it? Ambani has spent millions of dollars in oil exploration and setting up of a telecom network. Will he give you these services for free?

Can you answer these questions without empty rhetoric and hyperbole?

vehicles... (a). india not being a petroleum nation ( largely ) should have devised electric/biofuel transport, what are its so-called scientists and industrialists doing, (b). transportation is a political issue, and the best transportation system will not have private transport at all, especially silly and vulgar things like motorcycles which are used 99 percent time by [ school/college males, job doing males, criminals ], and these generally have not contributed anything to humanity, and never will.

cell phone... what is needed is internet connection and portable computer, and not a two-way voice machine called cell phone... i have never kept a cell phone, ever since it came to india in 1997 or thereabouts... no person who kept a cell phone has ever really benefited and progressed because of it... and the government could have made internet connection a human right, to be availed for free by anyone over the age of 12.

so where does ambani come into picture here??

Capitalist credo is To each according to his ability. IF you have the ability you will get the money and success. If not you will languish in bottom.

the very capitalist indian info. tech. industry employs about three million people ( as said by n.r. narayamurthy ), out of which maybe two million are software/hardware engineers... to get employed in this industry, the people get into a rat-race from the beginning... a rat-race of school/college high exam marks, listening to parents, being the "decent" person who will not drop-out ( ) of school/college, being focused to get a job, and so on... and such a person is consider capable by this industry, hence my two questions...

1. can you tell me if there have been designed two million operating systems and two million microprocessors by the two million capable software/hardware engineers of the indian info. tech. industry.

2. how many operating systems and microprocessors have been actually designed within india??

3. does the world need the very capitalist and "capable" indian info. tech. industry??

There is no inequality but just lazy people who want to live on freebies

it is illogical and unnatural for someone to be a wage-slave just to survive, let alone progress.

tell me, how is a indian software engineer or mba useful to humanity??

like i said before, the only natural and logical currency is contribution to society ( humanity ), a society that is arranged through socialism, and socialism is common sense... i want money system to be removed, for myself and for everyone including you, and i will participate in such a bringing such a future.

 

[Soumitra]

though this is a system yet to arrive, the nearest and immediate practical i can give is from the libyan jamahiriya ( from 1979 )...





^^^ this later was reduced to 1000 usa dollars but still think of how much that is in indian rupees... 60,000.



^^^ and anybody could take away that car ( even a mercedes benz ) and use it until they liked. though later, the state subsidized purchase by individuals of good cars.




source - The Libya I Once Knew


plus in libya until 2011...

1. electricity and water were for free.

2. housing was rent-free... housing was either given free by the system or subsidized by the state... also, see 5.

3. if you wanted to do agriculture, the system provided you free land, free housing, free seeds, free fertilizer, free tools and tractors.

4. if you wanted to start a business, the system would provide 20,000 usa dollars as your seed funding, without interest-charge of course... and banking was decentralized and system owned, with no interest-charging system.

5. when a young couple got married, they got 50,000 usa dollars to start married life... plus the birth of a child got them another 5000 dollars.

---->> think of how much money a libyan citizen did not have to spend to live very comfortably... nobody was poor, homeless, hungry... it was like i say to people, "money is facility, not necessity".

---->> the logical extension of the libyan jamahiriya system was one with money removed, because money didn't technically define and confine anyone's life there.



vehicles... (a). india not being a petroleum nation ( largely ) should have devised electric/biofuel transport, what are its so-called scientists and industrialists doing, (b). transportation is a political issue, and the best transportation system will not have private transport at all, especially silly and vulgar things like motorcycles which are used 99 percent time by [ school/college males, job doing males, criminals ], and these generally have not contributed anything to humanity, and never will.

cell phone... what is needed is internet connection and portable computer, and not a two-way voice machine called cell phone... i have never kept a cell phone, ever since it came to india in 1997 or thereabouts... no person who kept a cell phone has ever really benefited and progressed because of it... and the government could have made internet connection a human right, to be availed for free by anyone over the age of 12.

so where does ambani come into picture here??



the very capitalist indian info. tech. industry employs about three million people ( as said by n.r. narayamurthy ), out of which maybe two million are software/hardware engineers... to get employed in this industry, the people get into a rat-race from the beginning... a rat-race of school/college high exam marks, listening to parents, being the "decent" person who will not drop-out ( ) of school/college, being focused to get a job, and so on... and such a person is consider capable by this industry, hence my two questions...

1. can you tell me if there have been designed two million operating systems and two million microprocessors by the two million capable software/hardware engineers of the indian info. tech. industry.

2. how many operating systems and microprocessors have been actually designed within india??

3. does the world need the very capitalist and "capable" indian info. tech. industry??



it is illogical and unnatural for someone to be a wage-slave just to survive, let alone progress.

tell me, how is a indian software engineer or mba useful to humanity??

like i said before, the only natural and logical currency is contribution to society ( humanity ), a society that is arranged through socialism, and socialism is common sense... i want money system to be removed, for myself and for everyone including you, and i will participate in such a bringing such a future.

Wow utopia for the delusionals. Please tell me how did the govt get the money 20,000 USD for seed funding, 50,000 USD for starting married life , 7000 USD per head per month as salary?Did it grow on trees or fall from the sky?

No interest, no taxes how did the jhamuria survive? and why was gaddafi the mad dictator overthown by his own people?

 

[Darmashkian]

Wow utopia for the delusionals. Please tell me how did the govt get the money 20,000 USD for seed funding, 50,000 USD for starting married life , 7000 USD per head per month as salary?Did it grow on trees or fall from the sky?

No interest, no taxes how did the jhamuria survive? and why was gaddafi the mad dictator overthown by his own people?

The money came from Oil... Libya has rich oil resources.

 

[ghoul]

It was designed by Perkins and Will - a global architecture and design firm - was considered the most feasible design to survive an 8-Richter scale earthquake maintaining luxury and grandeur of the 27 storey private residence at the same time at a whopping cost of $1 Billion. Moreover it's just an example of rich Indians' lack of empathy for the poor.

They are baniyas, that's why. Pakistan's rich is much better than India's in that regards.

 

[Soumitra]

The money came from Oil... Libya has rich oil resources.

So the Libyan govt indulged in capitalism to fund its socialism? How is this "no Money, No Economics"

@jamahir you said anyone not willing to work was paid $7000 (later revised to $1000). So tell me what was the incentive to work if just by sitting at home you could earn money?

You said people could abandon Mercedes Benz cars on the road ? How did they buy them at the first place? Obviously they had to be rich to buy those cars. Did Mercedes sell those cars for free?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

What we need is a Socialist revolution so that the wealth can be returned to the masses instead of being concentrated in few hands like those that belong to extremely rich guys like @SarthakGanguly and @Joe Shearer .

Both have a jacuzi, a mini bar stocked with the best Cognac in the world and seats made out of the hide of endangered species in their personal limousines and both use a $100 bill as a wet-wipe to clean their hands after dinner !


I'd add @Dillinger to the list purrr as a fellow former Accountant....I know...apniii jaiiib mein tou paisaa hiii nahin hotaaa !

we saw how "socialism" experiment went in countries like Egypt, india or even Pakistan itself (under Z.A. Bhutto)

failed system, failed economic and social model

That building is such an atrocious edifice!! What an eye sore.. What was he thinking ?

whoever designed it was smoking on some sub-standard stuff

 

[Butchcassidy]

It was designed by Perkins and Will - a global architecture and design firm - was considered the most feasible design to survive an 8-Richter scale earthquake maintaining luxury and grandeur of the 27 storey private residence at the same time at a whopping cost of $1 Billion. Moreover it's just an example of rich Indians' lack of empathy for the poor.

And lack of taste

 

[Judge]

whoever designed it was smoking on some sub-standard stuff

Not really a question of design, but just of compassion. If 1/10th of the money on that building was spent in the neighbourhood, a much larger area would look nice.

Though I believe in an individuals undisputed authority to spend his money the way he likes, I also believe that there should be a moral compass to guide his/her/their 'likes'.