India's shopping list of New Russian Defence deals - Innoprom 2016

[PARIKRAMA]

India's shopping list of New Russian Defence deals - Innoprom 2016

Source based news

Source is in Innoprom 2016 and has sent some details over chat.

India will be purchasing a complete new list of arms from Russia. This was disclosed in the Innoprom 2016 meet between Russian officials and Indian Chief Ministers (Chandrababu - Seemandhra, Fadnavis - Maharastra and Rajasthan + other states delegates)

This includes the following

1. 12 S-400 systems under Make In India Plan
2. 2 Akula II submarines - First lease and then purchase once lease expires
3. 4 new Tu 22M3 long ranged bombers under black project
4. 80 new Mi17V5 helicopters
5. 6 new IL 76 aircraft for purchasing Phalcon AWACS from Israel and integration
6. 200 Ka226T for which a factory is being setup
7. 1000+ new T90 tanks with upgrades
8. Up-gradation and modernization of Mig 29 aircraft for $ 0.9 Billion
9. Further plans for JV work of Brahmos.

Substantial progress is also made in FGFA project for which separate announcement will be made by the governments

Will try and find some more news as the same should be out in interfax as per the source.

@Abingdonboy @MilSpec @SpArK @AUSTERLITZ @Stephen Cohen @anant_s @hellfire @zebra7 @others

12 S400 is a big number and so is the new 2 SSN lease purchase.. Tu22M3 long ranged bombers.. so we have some already and now 4 new.. that is a very big black project..

 

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India's shopping list of New Russian Defence deals - Innoprom 2016

Source based news

Source is in Innoprom 2016 and has sent some details over chat.

India will be purchasing a complete new list of arms from Russia. This was disclosed in the Innoprom 2016 meet between Russian officials and Indian Chief Ministers (Chandrababu - Seemandhra, Fadnavis - Maharastra and Rajasthan + other states delegates)

This includes the following

1. 12 S-400 systems under Make In India Plan
2. 2 Akula II submarines - First lease and then purchase once lease expires
3. 4 new Tu 22M3 long ranged bombers under black project
4. 80 new Mi17V5 helicopters
5. 6 new IL 76 aircraft for purchasing Phalcon AWACS from Israel and integration
6. 200 Ka226T for which a factory is being setup
7. 1000+ new T90 tanks with upgrades
8. Up-gradation and modernization of Mig 29 aircraft for $ 0.9 Billion
9. Further plans for JV work of Brahmos.

Substantial progress is also made in FGFA project for which separate announcement will be made by the governments

Will try and find some more news as the same should be out in interfax as per the source..

I do not see much significance of 4 Tu 22 bombers, S-400 and Akulas are the key.

While we are occupied with building SSBN, 2 more SSN can add a lot for meanwhile.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

India's shopping list of New Russian Defence deals - Innoprom 2016

Source based news

Source is in Innoprom 2016 and has sent some details over chat.

India will be purchasing a complete new list of arms from Russia. This was disclosed in the Innoprom 2016 meet between Russian officials and Indian Chief Ministers (Chandrababu - Seemandhra, Fadnavis - Maharastra and Rajasthan + other states delegates)

This includes the following

1. 12 S-400 systems under Make In India Plan
2. 2 Akula II submarines - First lease and then purchase once lease expires
3. 4 new Tu 22M3 long ranged bombers under black project
4. 80 new Mi17V5 helicopters
5. 6 new IL 76 aircraft for purchasing Phalcon AWACS from Israel and integration
6. 200 Ka226T for which a factory is being setup
7. 1000+ new T90 tanks with upgrades
8. Up-gradation and modernization of Mig 29 aircraft for $ 0.9 Billion
9. Further plans for JV work of Brahmos.

Substantial progress is also made in FGFA project for which separate announcement will be made by the governments

Will try and find some more news as the same should be out in interfax as per the source.

@Abingdonboy @MilSpec @SpArK @AUSTERLITZ @Stephen Cohen @anant_s @hellfire @zebra7 @others

12 S400 is a big number and so is the new 2 SSN lease purchase.. Tu22M3 long ranged bombers.. so we have some already and now 4 new.. that is a very big black project..

I have always said that.(about SSNs) And the better news, the first submarine could come faster ( hint there are 6 Akulas presently lying across 2 major shipyards and 1 base in Russia , one among them was Kashlot , so it was offered , but there is second option , another hull of Russian Navy is under midway of its overhaul after Kunbazz nearly completed its overhaul , and guess what.... this matter is known by both sides....)

The surprise for me is T90 tanks ... it's been 3 months when I got confirmed news about 350+ 350 purchase of Tanks , and Total numbers near 2400 T90s... 1000 will push them to 2700, may be the numbers of upgraded T72s are being cut down

I do not see much significance of 4 Tu 22 bombers, S-400 and Akulas are the key.

While we are occupied with building SSBN, 2 more SSN can add a lot for meanwhile.

Just for hints 2500+Km air launched cruise missile + range of Tu22M3 ..... now compare the distance from A&N to south Vietnam......

 

[Perpendicular]

1000+ new T90 tanks with upgrades

What's the point of buying more T90's when Arjum MK2 are quite capable and available already.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

The news of 6 more Il76 AWACS kinda made me sad , I was told it will be 3(in service ) + 2( under manufacturing ) + 1 (planned ) , complemented by near 2 dozen EMB145 based systems and 8 A330based systems , meaning EMB145 numbers will be cut down....

What's the point of buying more T90's when Arjum MK2 are quite capable and available already.

Price......

@PARIKRAMA add to the list 4-8 Ka31s, they are also confirmed(you too can confirm it) ....for IAC 1.

 

[Perpendicular]

Price......

What price when the money is going back to the economy itself if you buy make in India.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

here is the article

India was going to buy from Russia 12 systems S-400

Moscow. July 11th. INTERFAX.RU - India would like to purchase from Russia 12 anti-aircraft missile systems S-400 "Triumph". This is stated on the official stand of the program Make in India ( "Made in India"), the international industrial exhibition "Innoprom" in Yekaterinburg.

According to information at the booth, India plans to lease two nuclear submarine "Akula-2" with the ability to purchase them after the completion of the lease term.

It is reported that India has ordered four Russian long-range bomber Tu-22M3 bombers, 80 helicopters Mi-17, and IL-6, 76, which are suitable for the Israeli radar "Falcon".

The submission states that the initiative "Made in India" on the territory of the country is planned to produce more than 1 thousand. T-90S tanks and 200 Ka-226.

The stand is informed about the project at $ 900 million for the modernization of MiG-29 aircraft.

In addition, it is reported that India and Russia are cooperating on the supersonic anti-ship cruise missile "BrahMos", the fifth-generation fighter, the Su-30MKI program and tactical transport aircraft "IL"

http://www.interfax.ru/world/517965

 

[dadeechi]

What's the point of buying more T90's when Arjum MK2 are quite capable and available already.

It would be T-14 Armata

 

[Director General]

Tu-22M3 are useless for India.

 

[anant_s]

Tu22M3 long ranged bombers.. so we have some already

Is it correct @PARIKRAMA that India has Backfires in its inventory?

6 new IL 76 aircraft for purchasing Phalcon AWACS from Israel and integration

This is in addition to Airbus 330 platform for Indian AWACS? If true, this will be a mighty mighty force multiplier (total 9 Phalcons). @Abingdonboy

12 S-400 systems under Make In India Plan

this probably is the best news. What it implies is that, India can purchase additional batteries in future as well.

Substantial progress is also made in FGFA project for which separate announcement will be made by the governments

Yes, i too heard that a big announcement can be made at the end of this year in December when Indo Russian Annual Co-operation meeting is due.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

What price when the money is going back to the economy itself if you buy make in India.

Its more like " Army has got some ' X' rupees and threat assessment requires it new regiments both in north and west along with upgradation of 2000 tanks on west ..... and they have got to do it within that. Don't worry about MK2 ,300-450 Arjuns will be eventually in service.

Further buying T90s is from also Avadi only...

 

[Mustang06]

Sometimes I wonder whether our DM is on this forum as @PARIKRAMA because more often then not most of the things he posts are true.
On a serious note if the purchase/lease of Backfire is confirmed who is going to the operator of them? IAF or IN?
Secondly what happened to the news of India purchasing T90 MS?

 

[Archie]

Is it correct @PARIKRAMA that India has Backfires in its inventory?

This is in addition to Airbus 330 platform for Indian AWACS? If true, this will be a mighty mighty force multiplier (total 9 Phalcons). @Abingdonboy

this probably is the best news. What it implies is that, India can purchase additional batteries in future as well.


Yes, i too heard that a big announcement can be made at the end of this year in December when Indo Russian Annual Co-operation meeting is due.

India did used to have 4 Tu22M
They were leased from Russia for the Indian Navy while the The 8 Tu142s were going in for MLU
Their is no record of them ever being returned
And Tu142 upgrade got finished in 2012, which will see them through their retirement in year 2026

 

[Perpendicular]

It would be T-14 Armata

Even worse. T90 should be the last MBT, India should be buying from overseas. After T90, India should and it is capable enough to develop MBT at home.
IA is the worst performer out of the three.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

This is in addition to Airbus 330 platform for Indian AWACS? If true, this will be a mighty mighty force multiplier (total 9 Phalcons).

3 A50 in service + 2 under integration + one more was planned , which from this source seems to be increased to 6 , meaning 5 +6 = 11.

Sometimes I wonder whether our DM is on this forum as @PARIKRAMA because more often then not most of the things he posts are true.
On a serious note if the purchase/lease of Backfire is confirmed who is going to the operator of them? IAF or IN?
Secondly what happened to the news of India purchasing T90 MS?

New tank regiments for north and north east has been confirmed at the highest levels and at least 500 more T90s will be procured ( few from Russia and mostly from Avadi)