India's Rafale Deal

[Jammer]

Rafale fighter jets deal between India and France in jeopardy: sources - World - DAWN.COM

 

[I M Sikander]

After the death of so called mother of all deal. The baby deal is also fears an abortion.
All our sympathies with iaf.

 

[Viper0011.]

Rafale fighter jets deal between India and France in jeopardy: sources - World - DAWN.COM

I posted it somewhere else a couple of days ago before it was announced. The Indians really have to realize that Indian style negotiations will push this entire thing out by years. Asking for a price reduction, then more weapons integration options (which costs more money of course) and then asking the French to follow the offsetting law by putting majority of this assembly in India.....all three won't work together in India's favor. There is some give and take that needs to happen.

 

[nomi007]

After the death of so called mother of all deal. The baby deal is also fears an abortion.
All our sympathies with iaf.

khaya pia kuch nai glass tora 12 ane

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I posted it somewhere else a couple of days ago before it was announced. The Indians really have to realize that Indian style negotiations will push this entire thing out by years. Asking for a price reduction, then more weapons integration options (which costs more money of course) and then asking the French to follow the offsetting law by putting majority of this assembly in India.....all three won't work together in India's favor. There is some give and take that needs to happen.

reminds me of Chinese water torture. poor French, hehe
the three demands are incompatible to each other I mean asking for price reduction and then in the same breath demanding more features? lol
demanding 50% assembly in India and then demanding French to own the risk as well? double lol.
I said poor French before but in a way they price their products so excessively that I am kind of enjoying the Indian treatment they are getting.

 

[Echo_419]

reminds me of Chinese water torture. poor French, hehe
the three demands are incompatible to each other I mean asking for price reduction and then in the same breath demanding more features? lol
demanding 50% assembly in India and then demanding French to own the risk as well? double lol.
I said poor French before but in a way they price their products so excessively that I am kind of enjoying the Indian treatment they are getting.

Evil Baniya treatment is the right word
On topic
Mere bache hi udhayenge abh Rafael

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Whether India gets Rafale or not but France is getting orders as a result from the hype created by India for MMRCA deal.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Evil Baniya treatment is the right word
On topic
Mere bache hi udhayenge abh Rafael

treats them well. excessively overpriced for being French
no doubt about style class and quality there

 

[Donatello]

reminds me of Chinese water torture. poor French, hehe
the three demands are incompatible to each other I mean asking for price reduction and then in the same breath demanding more features? lol
demanding 50% assembly in India and then demanding French to own the risk as well? double lol.
I said poor French before but in a way they price their products so excessively that I am kind of enjoying the Indian treatment they are getting.

The ToT part and India demanding all product liability lying on the French, is the part i always highlighted in my posts here. Unfortunately, all the Indians members came up with their bullshyt how India has got France by the balls and how french don't have an option and bla bla. Seems like, all of those Think Tank Analysts need to hand in their titles for failing to see the reality.

In any case, this is Pakistan Airforce Section, please either delete this thread or move it to the Indian junk section.

 

[NKVD]

They Will Take It Or Live It.Americans & Airbus are Eager To sell F-35 & EF to Us.Eventually though India Cuts orders Even for FGFA to Saving For Something Big.

 

[dray]

I posted it somewhere else a couple of days ago before it was announced. The Indians really have to realize that Indian style negotiations will push this entire thing out by years. Asking for a price reduction, then more weapons integration options (which costs more money of course) and then asking the French to follow the offsetting law by putting majority of this assembly in India.....all three won't work together in India's favor. There is some give and take that needs to happen.

reminds me of Chinese water torture. poor French, hehe
the three demands are incompatible to each other I mean asking for price reduction and then in the same breath demanding more features? lol
demanding 50% assembly in India and then demanding French to own the risk as well? double lol.
I said poor French before but in a way they price their products so excessively that I am kind of enjoying the Indian treatment they are getting.

When did all these happen?

France was pushing for additional features for a much higher price than the usual inflationary price increase over the quoted price that helped them to win the tender in the first place, tenders don't work in that way. And offset clause was part of the tender, anyone not comfortable with that clause was free to not take part in that tender.

 

[Tipu7]

Let me remind few famous steps & claims involved in Rafale deal.

1: We just selected Rafale as winner of mother of all deals.
2: We will induct one squadron of Rafale from France. Remaining 100+ Rafales will be prepared by India under Make in India project.
3: India demanded more specifications along with TOT, as a result deal cost ballooned to several times of its initial cost!
4: You will see we will Induct Rafales, France cannot lose billion dollar friend like us.
5: India offered Tejas to France as a compensation in price tag...... France rejected the offer in first glance...!
6: Rafale is best. If can beat Raptor. We are demanding more advance systems that's why it is facing high cost issue and delays. But once 126 Rafales come in IAF we will rule the skies of Asia!!
7: Numbers of Rafales reduced to 36.
8: We will buy 36 as initial need. We will induct more Sukhois and later buy more Rafales if necessary.
9: Several squadrons of Mig21,Mig 27 retired. IAF cannibalize!
10: France has no chance in front of Modi.! We will get very first Rafales from France in fly away condition.
11: Egypt began to receive Rafales. After Egypt, UAE requirement came forward..... India still in waiting list.
12: Now Rafale deal in limited numbers is also in trouble as it do not full fill the number requirements and facing further delays....

 

[Silverblaze]

What a pathetic bunch of bureaucrats india has. The largest democracy in the world being run by the most incompetent bureaucratic system and it criticizes others.

 

[NKVD]

Let me remind few famous steps & claims involved in Rafale deal.

1: We just selected Rafale as winner of mother of all deals.
2: We will induct one squadron of Rafale from France. Remaining 100+ Rafales will be prepared by India under Make in India project.
3: India demanded more specifications along with TOT, as a result deal cost ballooned to several times of its initial cost!
4: You will see we will Induct Rafales, France cannot lose billion dollar friend like us.
5: India offered Tejas to France as a compensation in price tag...... France rejected the offer in first glance...!
6: Rafale is best. If can beat Raptor. We are demanding more advance systems that's why it is facing high cost issue and delays. But once 126 Rafales come in IAF we will rule the skies of Asia!!
7: Numbers of Rafales reduced to 36.
8: We will buy 36 as initial need. We will induct more Sukhois and later buy more Rafales if necessary.
9: Several squadrons of Mig21,Mig 27 retired. IAF cannibalize!
10: France has no chance in front of Modi.! We will get very first Rafales from France in fly away condition.
11: Egypt began to receive Rafales. After Egypt, UAE requirement came forward..... India still in waiting list.
12: Now Rafale deal in limited numbers is also in trouble as it do not full fill the number requirements and facing further delays....

Meanwhile India will be Having 300+ Sukhoi Mki-30 in Its Inventory.While Pakistan is Inducting Light Weight fighters. India Can Afford to Wait.

What a pathetic bunch of bureaucrats india has. The largest democracy in the world being run by the most incompetent bureaucratic system and it criticizes others.

That Pathetic bunch of bureaucrats Effectively Running India Which Has Highest GDP Growth in Whole South Asia.While Some failed Economies Still Expecting to Meet there GDP Goals

 

[sumoto]

What a pathetic bunch of bureaucrats india has. The largest democracy in the world being run by the most incompetent bureaucratic system and it criticizes others.

Lol now pakistanis will teach about democracy and bureacratic systems.