Indians knew about gravity before Newton: Isro ex-chief

[janon]

If so then why 're we debating here?

I wasn't debating, I was explaining. Read that post again slowly, to udnerstand my point. Clearly it was lost on you.

 

[Screambowl]

Don't need to, I have read most of his works long back. What he is describing there is WRONG. I wouldn't blame him forr that, because he was working with very little data. What he has written there is what everybody in the ancient times believed - that everything falls towards the earth, because the earth attracts everything. Aristotle thought that the tendency of earth is to move things down, the tendency of fire is to raise things up, and something similar for wind and water. You don't need a Brahmagupta or an Aristotle to tell you that things fall down - even our prehuman ancestors knew that.

What Newton did was that he radically changed this idea. That's right, he disproved the notion that "all heavy things fall down to the earth by a law of nature,..." (From your quote.)

Newton instead showed that EVERYTHING attracts everything else. The earth does, the moon does, you do, your computer does, etc. It is not that everything tends to fall "down" - it is that everything attract each other. The earth is no special in that. From there he also developed a mathematical model, an equation to calculate how much each thing attracts another thing. That is when it became a theory.

BTW, the words "all heavy things" in that quote also exposes a common misunderstanding. It's not just heavy things, bt light things also fall, and at exactly the same rate.

It's Newton's theories that brought our understanding of gravitation to a new level. The ancients saw things fall down, and assumed that the earth makes everything fall down. Newton changed such notions. BTW, Newton's theory itelf had to be slightly refined later, by Einstein. That is how scientific understanding progresses - step by step, from no understanding to complete understanding.

Isn't observation enough to understand what is happening? The modern day science has contributed very little and most of the contributions are newtonian. When you go to core, the theories change. This is due to mathematical modelling.

Now there is a conflict that Big Bang never happened. You can never compact the big bang in mathametical modelling because that requires some experiments and on earth it is not possible with current progress for the next one Millennium.

I asked my professor about size of this universe, being more than what it should be if max speed taken as speed of light., he is one of the boards of members in nuclear physics group of professors in germany. He said, I believe what I see, of course I believe in God. But Quantum Physics is something which cannot be proven unless Human has access to that massive energy and those masses to mathematically build a model. Lots of contradictions will come.

 

[Armstrong]

South Indian talking about mohenjodaro n Harappa .. O LOrD!

Butt Sb try reading Indus Saha by Aitezaz Ahsan...

Yaaar I'm reading History of Pakistan: Pakistan Through the Ages by Professor Ahmed Hasan Dani - the archaeologist who actually excavated most of these sites !

Its a very....very interesting read !

 

[Screambowl]

Auntie, Indus Valley Civilization didn't begin in Delhi !

It began along the River Indus and thats in Pakistan and Occupied Pakistan aka J&K !

But chacha you are an Arabi

 

[Levina]

LOL. I see.

So I guess since Harappan civilization was so advanced for its time, there is no way that Europeans or Americans should have more knowledge of aeronautics today, right?

That's why Europeans are requesting transfer of technology from us for these things.

Lol
Every day is not sunday they say.
Last century belonged to America, the century before that belonged to Britishers and other Europeans.Keep turning history's pages and you will find India's name.
If you don't wanna believe it, then so be it!

 

[Armstrong]

But chacha you are an Arabi

No I'm from the Indus Civilization !

 

[jaatram]

Yaaar I'm reading History of Pakistan: Pakistan Through the Ages by Professor Ahmed Hasan Dani - the archaeologist who actually excavated most of these sites !

Its a very....very interesting read !

did it started from from md bin Qasim?

 

[Sugarcane]

Chindi choors

 

[Dem!god]

Auntie, Indus Valley Civilization didn't begin in Delhi !

It began along the River Indus and thats in Pakistan and Occupied Pakistan aka J&K !

pakistan history begins with invasion of muhhamad bin qasim... not at harrapa

 

[Armstrong]

did it started from from md bin Qasim?

The book ? No it starts from the archaeological evidence that was found from the 'early man' in this part of the world - Cave drawing nears Rohri Hills and in the caves beyond Golra Sharif (near Islamabad) !

pakistan history begins with invasion of muhhamad bin qasim... not at harrapa

Okay !

 

[janon]

The modern day science has contributed very little and most of the contributions are newtonian. When you go to core, the theories change. This is due to mathematical modelling.

Goddamn, I don't even know how to reply to this hot air. Never mind, I'm not here to argue - I wanted to explain some things, and I have done so.

Now there is a conflict that Big Bang never happened. You can never compact the big bang in mathametical modelling because that requires some experiments and on earth it is not possible with current progress for the next one Millennium.

Look mate. I really mean no offence, honestly - but I request you to stop talking about things you clearly have no knowledge of.

I have to quote physicist Enrico Fermi, who once remarked about something thus: "That's not right. That's not even wrong!

Isn't observation enough to understand what is happening? The modern day science has contributed very little and most of the contributions are newtonian. When you go to core, the theories change. This is due to mathematical modelling.

Now there is a conflict that Big Bang never happened. You can never compact the big bang in mathametical modelling because that requires some experiments and on earth it is not possible with current progress for the next one Millennium.

I asked my professor about size of this universe, being more than what it should be if max speed taken as speed of light., he is one of the boards of members in nuclear physics group of professors in germany. He said, I believe what I see, of course I believe in God. But Quantum Physics is something which cannot be proven unless Human has access to that massive energy and those masses to mathematically build a model. Lots of contradictions will come.

Same quote of Fermi applies here.

(Again, I repeat, I am not trying to belittle you. But you are doing everybody a disservice when you talk about scientific concepts without knowing anything about it.)

Yaaar I'm reading History of Pakistan: Pakistan Through the Ages by Professor Ahmed Hasan Dani - the archaeologist who actually excavated most of these sites !

Its a very....very interesting read !

Have you read Nehru's Discovery of India?

 

[jaatram]

The book ? No it starts from the archaeological evidence that was found from the 'early man' in this part of the world - Cave drawing nears Rohri Hills and in the caves beyond Golra Sharif (near Islamabad) !



Okay !

so adam and eve?

 

[Levina]

Auntie, Indus Valley Civilization didn't begin in Delhi !

It began along the River Indus and thats in Pakistan and Occupied Pakistan aka J&K !

No one in the Indus Valley civilisation knew anything about India or Pakistan, Hinduism or Islam, Nehru or Jinnah. They are long dead. A lot of people who 've nothing to do with that culture live there now.

 

[Armstrong]

Have you read Nehru's Discovery of India?

No I haven't !

 

[Sugarcane]

Yaaar I'm reading History of Pakistan: Pakistan Through the Ages by Professor Ahmed Hasan Dani - the archaeologist who actually excavated most of these sites !

Its a very....very interesting read !

It's hard copy or online resource?