Indian View about Wakhan Corridor and Border with Afghanistan - 2019

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

lets first point out the knowledge gap you have on history.
1. KP was a province of Afghanistan before Ranjit Singh occupied it when Pashtoon made him its caretaker, its the same thing as Pakistan asking for Kashmir.

Afghanistan was also part of the Greek Empire (along with others) - that does not give the Greeks the right to claim any part of Afghanistan or Pakistan. This kind of stupidity is why you're being told to calm down.

KP is part of Pakistan and the UN and entire international community recognizes the Afghan-Pakistan border. There are twice as many Pashtun in Pakistan as there are in all of Afghanistan.

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

Afghanistan was also part of the Greek Empire (along with others) - that does not give the Greeks the right to claim any part of Afghanistan or Pakistan. This kind of stupidity is why you're being told to calm the **** down.

Afghanistan can go continue to suck Indian balls like it has throughout its modern history. KP is part of Pakistan and the UN and entire international community recognizes the Afghan-Pakistan border. The only hold-outs are the Afghandus in that piece of shite country to our North West.

So IOK is also a part of India, that doesn't mean Pakistan has a right to claim any part of it. I am only saying that invading the only trustable Muslim country that borders you is not a good idea.

 

[Mr Happy]

lets first point out the knowledge gap you have on history.
1. KP was a province of Afghanistan before Ranjit Singh occupied it when Pashtoon made him its caretaker, its the same thing as Pakistan asking for Kashmir.
2. Now Afghanistan is a war-torn country, easier to hide their, now if anyone is hiding them is NDS, tell me who controls NDS.
3. same reason as 1.
4. Who controls NDS?

and teach that other guy, who spits abuse? i was indirect, he is direct.


I don't understand, you want a Muslim country to invade another Muslim country. I thought afghanis have pride in defending their homeland.

I stated generally. I did not imply any country taking over another country.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

So IOK is also a part of India, that doesn't mean Pakistan has a right to claim any part of it. I am only saying that invading the only trustable Muslim country that borders you is not a good idea.

India and Pakistan went to the UNSC and had UNSC Resolutions passed clearly stating that the status of J&K was disputed and to be resolved via plebiscite. The Afghan-Pakistan border was agreed to between the British government (that ruled Pakistan-India at the time) and the Afghan government. There was no coercion (some accounts indicate the Afghan ruler in fact approached the British to demarcate the border).

Pakistan, as a successor State to British India, inherits the Afghan-Pakistan border demarcation agreement under established international law. Therefore there is absolutely no comparison to be made between KP and J&K, and I'm not sure why you're even attempting to make a comparison between the Indian occupied territory of J&K and the province of KP that became a part of Pakistan legally.

Afghanistan has absolutely no legal standing to challenge the Durand Agreement, which is why they've never approached the UN or ICJ or any other relevant international forum to contest the agreement and instead chosen to act through proxies and stoking insurgencies and terrorism in Pakistan to try and weaken Pakistan and then forcibly wrest away the territory they claim.

In addition, if the argument of 'Pashtun unity' were to be made, the minority/smaller/weaker entity becomes part of the majority/larger/stronger entity - which means that the Pashtun areas in Afghanistan would merge with Pakistan since Pakistan has twice as many Pashtun as Afghanistan.

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

India and Pakistan went to the UNSC and had UNSC Resolutions passed clearly stating that the status of J&K was disputed and to be resolved via plebiscite. The Afghan-Pakistan border was agreed to between the British government (that ruled Pakistan-India at the time) and the Afghan government. There was no coercion (some accounts indicate the Afghan ruler in fact approached the British to demarcate the border).

Pakistan, as a successor State to British India, inherits the Afghan-Pakistan border demarcation agreement under established international law. Therefore there is absolutely no comparison to be made between KP and K&K, and I'm not sure why you're even attempting to make a comparison between the Indian occupied territory of J&K and the province of KP that became a part of Pakistan legally.]

I am just pointing out the simple fact that occupying sovereign state land, just to fulfill your agenda is not a good thing. you quoted greeks, which was a ridiculous comparison, thus, I had to come up with a similar one.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I am just pointing out the simple fact that occupying sovereign state land, just to fulfill your agenda is not a good thing. you quoted greeks, which was a ridiculous comparison, thus, I had to come up with a similar one.

I'm not supporting the occupation of sovereign land. My original post to you may not have been clear so let me clarify - I was encouraging you to make a logical, civil rebuttal to the argument that Pakistan take over the Wakhan corridor through military force.

I personally support the approach of Pakistan peacefully influencing Afghanistan to accept the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and expanding economic and cultural ties. The only way that is going to be successful is if Pakistan develops herself and her economy expands significantly, and we cannot do that if we go around invading little pieces of land here and there.

 

[H. Dawary]

Afghanistan was also part of the Greek Empire (along with others) - that does not give the Greeks the right to claim any part of Afghanistan or Pakistan. This kind of stupidity is why you're being told to calm down.

KP is part of Pakistan and the UN and entire international community recognizes the Afghan-Pakistan border. There are twice as many Pashtun in Pakistan as there are in all of Afghanistan.

How come I never see you criticise Iran, but when it comes to Afghanistan suddenly we are Afghandus?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

How come I never see you criticise Iran, but when it comes to Afghanistan suddenly we are Afghandus?

I apologize for that - I lost my temper. I edited my post right after I posted it but obviously not quick enough. It was uncalled for and unacceptable on my part.

I will however accept that I am more bitter towards Afghanistan than Iran, primarily because Afghanistan claims Pakistani territory, supports groups like the PTM and has supported various terrorist/insurgent movements in Pakistan over the decades with the specific intent to break apart Pakistan and take over her territory. The Iranians have supported terrorist organizations in Pakistan too, but they don't make any outright claims over Pakistani territory. I still don't trust the Iranians (I don't think they want a strong Pakistan on their border) but the emotions are weaker because the dynamics are different compared to Afghanistan.

 

[RealNapster]

lets first point out the knowledge gap you have on history.
1. KP was a province of Afghanistan before Ranjit Singh occupied it when Pashtoon made him its caretaker, its the same thing as Pakistan asking for Kashmir.
2. Now Afghanistan is a war-torn country, easier to hide their, now if anyone is hiding them is NDS, tell me who controls NDS.
3. same reason as 1.
4. Who controls NDS?

and teach that other guy, who spits abuse? i was indirect, he is direct

You deliberately skipped my question and instead tagged me in something else but I will take you back for sometime. Let's repeat what you said when someone said we should annex wakhan. You said we people of Kp won't allow that .

Here I ask WHY ? What's the issue ? Why won't we allow that to happen ? Sta da tror kor dy pakki sa ? Ka nya di da wakhan na rawada wa ? Q urta tree apni tue me Lena hy ?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

the army didn't do jack shit, general Gracey said sit, and the slave army back then wagging its tail to the colonial masters.

Skardu scouts dropped from the sky? they were getting directions by Pakistan Army.
do you know who was Colonel Aslam Khan? FC had a huge role back then..
Pakistan army had more role than than your brain could absorb and i dotn have energy to go further in details so you better stick to what you are good at..troll posts..

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[Mr Happy]

How come I never see you criticise Iran, but when it comes to Afghanistan suddenly we are Afghandus?

We all have our views. Some people claim Punjabi is spoken in many states in India. Next, they will state Nepali is also Punjabi. Whenever you ask these people to bring evidence, they bring virtually nothing. Too many wannabe scholars on the internet.

Ludhiana in Indian Punjab is even named after the Pashtun Lodhi tribe.

Lodhi-ana> Ludhiana. The place or town of Lodhis.

https://ludhiana.nic.in/about-district/

As most people know "Punjab" is from Persian panj + aab= five rivers. Aab also denoting water in Persian.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Punjab

 

[ChennaiDude]

Instead of thinking only about Wakhan, we should be thinking about bringing all of Afghanistan into our fold. The attraction of jobs, economy, education, medical care, and our own vibrant Pukhtoon culture is too much for Afghans to resist.

This is the best case scenario- Hopefully this is implemented - Its sad that the people of Afghanistan have been played by all for their benefits- Finally who ever is responsible for this devastation will be answerable to GOD-(All religions included).

 

[doorstar]

Well as soon as COVID-19 Pandemic is over. The USA would be back to the agenda of leaving Afghanistan.

so USA spends 20 years and 100s of billions to establish a foothold on China and Pakistan borders then suddenly leaves without having achieved its objectives?

PDFers are just amazing. you should all be in the PDF think-tank

 

[H. Dawary]

We all have our views. Some people claim Punjabi is spoken in many states in India. Next, they will state Nepali is also Punjabi. Whenever you ask these people to bring evidence, they bring virtually nothing. Too many wannabe scholars on the internet.

Its whatever... But what I have realised with some members here who belong to a certain faith jump up and criticise Afghanistan but don't do so when the heat is on Iran. I won't name those members but they know who they are. And in a way I am a bit jealous that Iran has such influence within Pakistan while we Afghans don't.

 

[ChennaiDude]

India and Pakistan went to the UNSC and had UNSC Resolutions passed clearly stating that the status of J&K was disputed and to be resolved via plebiscite.

https://mea.gov.in/in-focus-article...+book+quotThe+Kashmir+Storyquot+by+B+L+Sharma