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Indian space program more advanced than Chinese: Scientist

Out of major space technologies:

Heavy lift vehicles - China has lead in and much more experience and years more developing, building and using than India.

Manned space flight - China has lead in and much more experience and decades more doing than India which hasn't even done it once yet so maybe not just decades but possibly will be centuries or millennia etc more experience than India assuming India ever passes this.

EVA - China has lead in and much more experience and years more developing, improving and doing than India.

Docking tech - China has lead in and much more experience and years more doing than India.

Rocket engines - China has lead in and heavier thrust, more types, both solid and liquid fuel technologies (cryogenic which India brags a lot about even though it's so basic and common) compared to India's very low tech engines and only a few types.

Testing facilities - China has lead in and much more investment over decades longer than India.

Orbiting and satellite warfare technologies - China has relay types and movable types which India lacks still. Take a look at this link.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...ellite-shows-space-warfare-prowess-dodging-us
For a long time China has been improving satellite warfare tech and they can all take advantage of extremely difficult lagrangian orbits which Indian ones are not yet capable of. Again years more experience in doing. Decades more experience in development and testing. American and Chinese satellites have been at war maneuvers in space for years now. Indian satellites don't even work well while ours are performing maneuvers only two nations on earth can do currently.

Lander technology - China has performed 3 major and difficult soft landings with success. India has yet to perform one successfully.

Rover technology - China has successfully operated 3 rovers with two on the moon and one on Mars. India has zero.

Space station technology - China operated space lab Tiangong 1 for nearly 7 years before deorbiting that trial station and starting the current space station program which has many modules already and several missions. India has not yet deployed even a space lab with one small module.

Launch facilities - China has much more launch facilities than India and building more than India at a faster rate than India. It also is developing several ship launchers with already many built and used for years while India has yet to develop a single ship launcher.

Spacecraft - China has Shenzhou spacecraft developed from Soyuz, since 1999. India has yet to develop a single spacecraft. It is already more than 20 years behind China just on this. Shenzhou is much larger and more modern and advanced than Soyuz despite being developed using Soyuz technology purchased from Russia. But this is 22 years old as a launched spacecraft but over 30 years old as a piece of technology that was developed back then. China now has flown the Next Generation Spacecraft (one of the world's most modern and advanced multi crew spacecraft) two times successfully once in 2016 and once in 2020 with unmanned trials and landing them back safely inside China. India only has powerpoint spacecraft programs.

Deep Space Network - China has it's own since 1980s and India to this day still requires US and European assistance with deep space network and borrow others to perform any space mission that requires DSN.

All of these are the main components of space technologies and China is ahead of India in development, building, testing, and using. India offers few launch services and no one is buying Indian space launch services these days, only one customer every few years. Not even Indian government buys many Indian space launch services.

Private or non-national space sector, China has over 10 organizations involved and have been launching and developing multiple techs on their own for years now. Some affiliated with government have access to national space technologies and suppliers but many are doing it all themselves. It is young but it is far ahead of India's in developing and doing.

Oh and Beidou/Compass is many times more advanced than the Indian failed project GNS which is not even functioning properly while our coverage for Asia region is superior to even GPS of US with even more accuracy and allows for active multiway direct communication with even ground commercial user level which GPS still does not yet offer.

India has not even been able to develop something similar to Longmarch 3 level, it will need decades more to get to Longmarch 7 and Longmarch 5 level.
 
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By the moment I'm writing the thread, China has:
- a rover on the Mars
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- a rover on the far side of the moon
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- three taikonauts working and living in China's own space station;
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Since supa India is a "flee media" country, these news must have been reported there.
 
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lol, how can this people be so shameless?
Because absolute number wise, China's failure launch is 2x of India's!

Let me tell you who has the world's best space technology! It's Bhutan! Because Bhutan has ZERO failure launch records in the past 100 years! Amazing!
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Shouldn't measures be taken to improve the depth of your pockets instead of using it as an excuse?
But that's too difficult and painful. By blabla on the internet, supa Indian can achieve anything!
 
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Out of major space technologies:

Heavy lift vehicles - China has lead in and much more experience and years more developing, building and using than India.

Manned space flight - China has lead in and much more experience and decades more doing than India which hasn't even done it once yet so maybe not just decades but possibly will be centuries or millennia etc more experience than India assuming India ever passes this.

EVA - China has lead in and much more experience and years more developing, improving and doing than India.

Docking tech - China has lead in and much more experience and years more doing than India.

Rocket engines - China has lead in and heavier thrust, more types, both solid and liquid fuel technologies (cryogenic which India brags a lot about even though it's so basic and common) compared to India's very low tech engines and only a few types.

Testing facilities - China has lead in and much more investment over decades longer than India.

Orbiting and satellite warfare technologies - China has relay types and movable types which India lacks still. Take a look at this link.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...ellite-shows-space-warfare-prowess-dodging-us
For a long time China has been improving satellite warfare tech and they can all take advantage of extremely difficult lagrangian orbits which Indian ones are not yet capable of. Again years more experience in doing. Decades more experience in development and testing. American and Chinese satellites have been at war maneuvers in space for years now. Indian satellites don't even work well while ours are performing maneuvers only two nations on earth can do currently.

Lander technology - China has performed 3 major and difficult soft landings with success. India has yet to perform one successfully.

Rover technology - China has successfully operated 3 rovers with two on the moon and one on Mars. India has zero.

Space station technology - China operated space lab Tiangong 1 for nearly 7 years before deorbiting that trial station and starting the current space station program which has many modules already and several missions. India has not yet deployed even a space lab with one small module.

Launch facilities - China has much more launch facilities than India and building more than India at a faster rate than India. It also is developing several ship launchers with already many built and used for years while India has yet to develop a single ship launcher.

Spacecraft - China has Shenzhou spacecraft developed from Soyuz, since 1999. India has yet to develop a single spacecraft. It is already more than 20 years behind China just on this. Shenzhou is much larger and more modern and advanced than Soyuz despite being developed using Soyuz technology purchased from Russia. But this is 22 years old as a launched spacecraft but over 30 years old as a piece of technology that was developed back then. China now has flown the Next Generation Spacecraft (one of the world's most modern and advanced multi crew spacecraft) two times successfully once in 2016 and once in 2020 with unmanned trials and landing them back safely inside China. India only has powerpoint spacecraft programs.

Deep Space Network - China has it's own since 1980s and India to this day still requires US and European assistance with deep space network and borrow others to perform any space mission that requires DSN.

All of these are the main components of space technologies and China is ahead of India in development, building, testing, and using. India offers few launch services and no one is buying Indian space launch services these days, only one customer every few years. Not even Indian government buys many Indian space launch services.

Private or non-national space sector, China has over 10 organizations involved and have been launching and developing multiple techs on their own for years now. Some affiliated with government have access to national space technologies and suppliers but many are doing it all themselves. It is young but it is far ahead of India's in developing and doing.

Oh and Beidou/Compass is many times more advanced than the Indian failed project GNS which is not even functioning properly while our coverage for Asia region is superior to even GPS of US with even more accuracy and allows for active multiway direct communication with even ground commercial user level which GPS still does not yet offer.

India has not even been able to develop something similar to Longmarch 3 level, it will need decades more to get to Longmarch 7 and Longmarch 5 level.
Yes, not to mention all the constellations China owns in the orbits, from Infra-red to Gaofen to Fengyun to Beidou ... I've lost count!
 
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Because absolute number wise, China's failure launch is 2x of India's!

Let me tell you who has the world's best space technology! It's Bhutan! Because Bhutan has ZERO failure launch records in the past 100 years! Amazing!
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But that's too difficult and painful. By blabla on the internet, supa Indian can achieve anything!

CNSA’s budget is a pitiful fraction of NASA or even Musk’s, but that doesn’t stop them from making record number of launches this year. Budget is no excuse for incompetence.
 
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I wont say we are ahead in space but we are equal in space technology..... However China have a deep pockets so the outcome seen from their space program is faster than India's.....

Indian stupidity and shameless know bounds, :cheesy:

a country pays French to launch heavy satellites say we are equal with China, which landed a Mars rover and collected and returned Moon sample

indians will say supa powa india is the same as nasa in terms of technology , it’s just we are shitty poor , so the outcome looks USA is faster

All these Pajeets IQ

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Equal what equal? You mean your crash turtle on Moon can compare to our Intact Yutu 2 on far side of the moon?

and how about space station? Can you build a space core module? Can you know how to dock? Then our Beidou 3 is worldwide service and can provide better accuracy than US GPS and signal can penetrate underground.

You are talking nonsense. Tell me one you think India space is equal with China.. China and India space are not on the same level.
China is space power while India is just trying to be a rising space fairing nation and south asia regional lead.

You are misunderstanding my post.... We too have such technology like building space station etc but budget stops us.... For china budget is no issue.....
You have an auto rickshaw and I drive a BMW, so we are equal in "transportation technology"? :crazy:

Off course if question is about "transportation technology"..... Auto rickshaw can drop me at the location where BMW can......
 
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You are misunderstanding my post.... We too have such technology like building space station etc but budget stops us.... For china budget is no issue.....
Budget is everything though...
Many countries can have technology if they're determined
Pak was one of the pioneers in spaceflights atleast in Asia, now not a lot on space front even though infrastructure is probably there that if you decide to truly focus and be dedicated something can come out of it , graduates of aranautical programs are still graduating and getting hired by foreign companies, so basics of a space program is always there in most decent countries

You need 2 things to be a space country massive.will and massive amounts of money
 
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You are misunderstanding my post.... We too have such technology like building space station etc but budget stops us.... For china budget is no issue.....


Off course if question is about "transportation technology"..... Auto rickshaw can drop me at the location where BMW can......

no money bullshit? Supa powa 2012 not super power?
Build a heavy rocket first, no money :rofl:
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massive amounts of money
There are two ways of getting monies.

Easy way, you scramble the money printer. Buy whatever needed, rocket boosters, components/parts, tools, as well as immigrants from all over the world bringing their ideas/techs to you. See how a South African build his private space company in the the world's largest money printer/exporter. You only need to make sure what you print is good as gold.

Or do it the hard way, build a competitive economy to earn the money. Even better if it's a Hi-Tech economy, cos during the process you may have amassed some if not all technological knowhow useful for your future space business. This path is tough but perhaps the only choice for most countries, yours and mine included. China Hi-Tech exports amounted to $757 billion last year, more than the next 5 industrial powers (US, Japan, Germany, South Korea, France) combined, or over 5 times that of US, that even excludes HKSAR's $340 billion (partly re-export). A Hi-Tech economy is the foundation for space business.

 
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As I’ve been saying, dumbest group of humans on earth. Their political elite, their military elite, their scientific elite are all no different to your average Indian internet trolls.

It's like they were from an entirely different species of Homo sapiens, different thought process, different logic, different common sense, different work ethic, defferent honor code, defferent inspiration........

We work our axx out, and they TALK their axx out.
 
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You are misunderstanding my post.... We too have such technology like building space station etc but budget stops us.... For china budget is no issue.....


Off course if question is about "transportation technology"..... Auto rickshaw can drop me at the location where BMW can......
India's space program is not sustainable without a solid foundation.
 
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