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Indian SEALs Seek Competitive Gear

November 24, 2011: The Indian Navy is seeking modern infantry equipment for its elite MARCOS unit (India's SEAL teams which perform special ops on the high seas). MARCOS wants equipment similar to what other commandos, especially the U.S. Navy SEALs have. The Indian government and defense procurement bureaucracy is aware of this need, not just from MARCOS and other special operations troops, but for all Indian infantry as well.
The government tries. Two years ago, with great fanfare, India announced an effort to design and create its own version of the U.S. Army Land Warrior system. Countries around the world (including Britain, France, and Germany) have been designing, trying out, and testing similar combat systems for over ten years now. The Indian effort is not going well. The Indians version is INSAS (Infantry-Soldier-As-A-System). One of the major things the Indians want to build as part of the program is a domestically produced multi-caliber individual weapon and a programmable airbursting grenade launcher for the infantry. This is basically the exact same thing that the U.S. Army's OICW (Objective Individual Combat Weapon) was supposed to be. The Indians are hoping their weapon will be more successful. But so far, progress, much less success, has been scarce.

Other plans include introducing new anti-tank weaponry, laser rangefinders, a new carbine/submachine gun, new combat uniforms for the infantry, better communications, and improved body armor. The new platform, the Indians are hoping, will reduce the load carried by the individual soldier by 50 percent. The helmet device the Indians are designing is equipped with video cameras, thermal sensors, and a visor set-up that contains two computer monitors. Plans to issue each infantryman with a "palmtop" computer are a high priority. But there's little to show for all these ambitious plans.

The first set of INAS equipment is supposed to appear next year, and by the end of the decade, some 500 infantry, paramilitary and special operations battalions will have this gear. But MARCOS knows that these projects never deliver on schedule, and are instead seeking foreign sources. There are several, including the U.S., France, Germany and several other European nations. If MARCOS gets away with this, it will encourage other Indian special operations forces to do the same.

India actually has lots of special operations outfits. These include;

Para Commandos form the parachute infantry of the Army, but have been given additional training and equipment to enable them to carry out commando type operations.

The Special Protection Group is assigned the task of protection for India's Prime Minister and VIPs from terrorist attacks.

The primary counter-terror unit in the country, however, is the 15,000 National Security Guards and the ones who have borne most of the responsibility for tackling India's persistent insurgent problems over the last couple of decades.

The army has created a force of over 7,200 commandos so that each of the 359 infantry battalions in the army has a twenty man Ghatak (commando) platoon. While this gives each battalion some shock troops, it also increases discontent among the rest of the troops, who now see modern equipment up close, and wonder why they don't have it.


India has been increasing spending on equipment for its ground forces over the last decade, but these efforts have been uneven. Some of this has been caused by corruption. Like many other nations, India has long had problems with kickbacks and favoritism in defense procurement. But it's been worse with India, which ranks 87 (out of 180) in an international survey of least corrupt nations. Last year India was 84. India has responded with a major effort to halt corruption in defense matters, but this has stalled some procurement efforts.

The end result of this is that India is under increasing pressure, from below, to honor promises to upgrade the weapons and equipment of the infantry forces. These troops have fallen far behind other armies, and the troops, and especially their officers, are not being quiet about it. But government plans to upgrade infantry weapons and equipment have not amounted to much. The troops are not happy with this.

While India spends a lot of money on its fighter aircraft, naval vessels, and heavy ground equipment like tanks and APCs, very little is spent on taking care of the infantry. This isn't unique to the Indians, it just happens that the infantry historically doesn't get first grab at funds within the military and are usually at the bottom of the list when it comes to spending in general.
 
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ewww,calling SPG and Ghataks as SF.

Anyhow I just received new pics of SEALs from a friend and mind you it is the regular SEAL Teams no DEVGRU and boy their equipment is outstanding,amazing configurations of M4 platforms,HK416,LWRC weapons with state of the art ACOG's,EOtechs.

Well the three Indian SF - Para(SF),MARCOS & Garuds should get foreign equipment as after firing indian ordinance made guns I'd say better get those foreign made guns they are anyday much better.They also deserve other things in the Jai Jawan with 1 Para(SF) i saw no gloves on the commando's hands I have never seen SEALS,QP's,D-Boys,SAS without gloves.

A lot needs to be done for these men and for f***s sake give the Army SF its own SF regiment time and again some whacko general from 5,6,7 PARA becomes colonel of the regiment and then dicks around with the training system of the SF and keeps saying PARA and PARA(SF) are equal(yeah,nice joke mate)

Our sniper's specially need better weapon i'd never use the dragunov,galil as part of a sniper team,the MSG-90 is good but better systems are coming in like the M-110,then there is the SAKO TRG in .338 LM,Accuracy International L96 in .308.
 
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Its an old news...
As far as weapons are concerned our M4 is not as good as Tavor which is been ordered for all our SF...For Sniper the guns that we have are good but yeah i heard alot about M-110 may be we should atleast test them and then decide...
 
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ewww,calling SPG and Ghataks as SF.

Anyhow I just received new pics of SEALs from a friend and mind you it is the regular SEAL Teams no DEVGRU and boy their equipment is outstanding,amazing configurations of M4 platforms,HK416,LWRC weapons with state of the art ACOG's,EOtechs.

Well the three Indian SF - Para(SF),MARCOS & Garuds should get foreign equipment as after firing indian ordinance made guns I'd say better get those foreign made guns they are anyday much better.They also deserve other things in the Jai Jawan with 1 Para(SF) i saw no gloves on the commando's hands I have never seen SEALS,QP's,D-Boys,SAS without gloves.

A lot needs to be done for these men and for f***s sake give the Army SF its own SF regiment time and again some whacko general from 5,6,7 PARA becomes colonel of the regiment and then dicks around with the training system of the SF and keeps saying PARA and PARA(SF) are equal(yeah,nice joke mate)

Our sniper's specially need better weapon i'd never use the dragunov,galil as part of a sniper team,the MSG-90 is good but better systems are coming in like the M-110,then there is the SAKO TRG in .338 LM,Accuracy International L96 in .308.

Agreed, saw a lot of holes in the article. I hate it when SPG are called a SF, they are purely a very professional, well trained and well equipped protective agency. If you look up the definition of SF you will see the SPG does not fall under this category at all. Also 100% behind you in the need for a separate PARA SF regiment, but this article gets it wrong by saying PARA SF are PARAs with some commando training, the PARA SF training syllabus is VERY different to regular PARA regime (which is gruelling anyway). Also Ghataks AREN'T SF by a long shot, purely very well trained infantrymen but are pretty well equipped. No mention of SFF though (although I suppose technically they aren't SF more comparable to SAD of CIA).

I'd also push for a JSOC and fast tracking of dedicated aerial assets which have been on the drawing board for too long.


Tbh though I have very high hopes for Indian SOFs as we nave seen the equipment and tactics of Indian SOFs come a long way in a very short period of time. As shown in recent Jai Jawan and HEROS program they are pretty well equipped and have extensive up gradation plans. We will soon see (as we are seeing to some extent right now) the awesome marriage of the best trained SOFs in the world with some of the best equipment available in the world.


Agree with the article that once MARCOs get this (F-INSAS like) kit the other Indian SOFs will likely follow suit regardless of progress of F-INSAS. Glad to see though that MARCOs are foreword thinking enough to get suck kit.
 
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Agree with the article that once MARCOs get this (F-INSAS like) kit the other Indian SOFs will likely follow suit regardless of progress of F-INSAS. Glad to see though that MARCOs are foreword thinking enough to get suck kit.
I also think if there's a possibility of delays in FINSAS, i think we should keep our SF out of FINSAS program. For our SF either we should go for US equipment or French FÉLIN is also good...
 
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I also think if there's a possibility of delays in FINSAS, i think we should keep our SF out of FINSAS program. For our SF either we should go for US equipment or French FÉLIN is also good...

Agreed, I'd say once IA SF/IAF SF (and others) see MARCOs new gear they will soon want in and I'd say they'd likely get similar non F-INSAS related gear.

I think Israelis could be of help in this field aswell as US whose SOFs are ridiculously well equipped.
 
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