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Sipahi Maqbool Hussain, who was injured and taken prisoner by the Indian Army in the 1965 war, spent 40 years in Indian jails. He was released as a civilian prisoner in 2005. During his imprisonment, Hussain was subjected to terrible human rights abuses.
Hussain, bearing army No 335139, hit by enemy fire on the Line of Control at the start of the 1965 war. Subsequently, he was taken prisoner by the Indian army, who deny him Prisoner of War status. Trained in the traditions of the Pakistan Army, Hussain faced all the suffering and refused to share any information about his country with his captors — so much so that when they cut out his tongue, he writes ‘Pakistan Zindabad’ (long live Pakistan) in his own blood. Hussain also becomes mentally ill during his four decades of incarceration.
Hussain, bearing army No 335139, hit by enemy fire on the Line of Control at the start of the 1965 war. Subsequently, he was taken prisoner by the Indian army, who deny him Prisoner of War status. Trained in the traditions of the Pakistan Army, Hussain faced all the suffering and refused to share any information about his country with his captors — so much so that when they cut out his tongue, he writes ‘Pakistan Zindabad’ (long live Pakistan) in his own blood. Hussain also becomes mentally ill during his four decades of incarceration.
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It's really ironic because in Bollywood war films (especially in "Mission Kashmir" I think it's called), Indian army is presented as a moral and humane army with so much honor and care for prisoners of war and detainees.
But all that is utter nonsense for the Indian domestic cattle (metaphor) to consume.
It is stories such as these (like Sipahi Maqbool Hussain's) that expose the truth of Indian torture and human rights violations, and violations of the Geneva convention and shows India's true character in a time of war.
But all that is utter nonsense for the Indian domestic cattle (metaphor) to consume.
It is stories such as these (like Sipahi Maqbool Hussain's) that expose the truth of Indian torture and human rights violations, and violations of the Geneva convention and shows India's true character in a time of war.
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A true Pakistani Patriot.I think he returned to Pakistan in 2007 and was given VIP housing near General Headquaters by General Musharraf but he could not sleep on bed so he slept on floor.There is a show about him on youtube.
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Kashmir Singh admitted he was an Indian spy in Pakistan. He languished thirty-five years in Pakistani jail. He is back in India now. But he made some statements that can be the biggest shame for India and Indian political leaders.
He deplored that successive governments at the Centre did nothing for his family. "After my arrest in 1974, the successive governments did nothing for my family. I did the duty assigned to me as a spy. The government after my arrest did not bother to spend a single penny for my family," said Singh and his wife.
It is a shame for India. The politicians care little about Indian heroes and military personnel sacrificing their life for the nation. It is all about money and servicing the 100 or so oligarch families in India that control 75% of the economy and 100% of central, federal and local governments.
India paid me Rs 400 per month as salary ($10), I went to serve the country. When I was caught and thrown into jail the Indian politicians of all the parties looked the other way.
A healthy well-fed Kashmir Singh after released from a Pakistani jail.
He deplored that successive governments at the Centre did nothing for his family. "After my arrest in 1974, the successive governments did nothing for my family. I did the duty assigned to me as a spy. The government after my arrest did not bother to spend a single penny for my family," said Singh and his wife.
It is a shame for India. The politicians care little about Indian heroes and military personnel sacrificing their life for the nation. It is all about money and servicing the 100 or so oligarch families in India that control 75% of the economy and 100% of central, federal and local governments.
India paid me Rs 400 per month as salary ($10), I went to serve the country. When I was caught and thrown into jail the Indian politicians of all the parties looked the other way.
A healthy well-fed Kashmir Singh after released from a Pakistani jail.
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Khalid Mehmood, Kashmir Singh reflect Pak, Indian mindsets
* Media reports point to difference between treatment meted out to Indian and Pakistani ‘spies’ in jails
* Say 48 Pakistani prisoners languish in Indian jails even after serving their sentences
ISLAMABAD: As the dead body of ill-fated Pakistani prisoner Khalid Mehmood arrived back home on Monday, harsh questions are being asked by media over the Pakistani government’s pardoning and release of an Indian spy, Kashmir Singh.
Having seen off Kashmir Singh at Wagah Border last week amid joy and laughter, Pakistanis assembled again yesterday at the same point to receive the body of an innocent Pakistani cricket-lover amid tears and greif.
Mehmood had visited India to watch the Pak-India cricket series, and was reportedly picked up by Indian secret agencies. Indian media reported that Mehmood had died of severe torture at the hands of Indian jail officials.
The arrival of his body in Pakistan puts a question mark over India’s human rights groups.
Bhago Begum, the Pakistani citizen who was freed last year from an Indian jail, described as “dreadful” the conditions suffered by Pakistani prisoners.
She termed the authorities of Indian jails “heartless”, as Pakistani prisoners remained a target of routine “physical abuse” and verbal humiliation at the hands of Indian officials.
There are many other Pakistani nationals who continue to suffer at the hands of the Indian authorities without trial.
On the other side of the border, an Indian national, Kashmir Singh, was pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf and was released from a Pakistani jail last week.
On his way home from Wagah, Singh carried memories of humane treatment in Pakistani jails, despite his being a spy - a fact he admitted as soon as he returned to India after his 35-year imprisonment.
The grey-haired Singh looked physically fit and cheerful after his release, in sharp contrast to the miserable condition of Pakistani prisoners languishing in Indian jails, who unlike Singh do not catch the attention of human rights activists.
Talking to the media, Singh termed his release a “humanitarian gift from President Pervez Musharraf.” The internationally publicised release and the jubilation in Singh’s home village raised questions about the plight of Pakistani prisoners languishing in Indian jails.
The comparison of his figure and complexion with that of Bhago Begum speaks volumes about the treatment meted out to Pakistani prisoners in India.
48 Pakistanis in Indian jails: According to reports, as many as 48 Pakistani prisoners are languishing in jails across Indian Punjab, all of whom have completed their prison terms.
Many of the prisoners have not even been granted consular access, which is mandatory under international conventions that both Pakistan and India are signatory to.
The Asian Age reported that 60-year-old Pakistani Mukhtar Ahmad of Kasur, currently in Amritsar’s high-security central jail, has spent 17 years in various prisons across India.
The jail officials said that they were “helpless” and could not release the 48 detainees since they would be “guilty” of violating the Foreigners Act the minute the prisoners were permitted to step out of the jail premises.
“We have no ulterior interest in retaining these people. But we can only follow the instructions from Delhi,” said Superintendent SP Singh.
And past experience shows that Delhi could well remain silent for years. The apparent lethargy on the part of the Indian bureaucracy in processing the cases of the 48 Pakistanis in Amritsar Jail is surprising.
Ranjan Lakhanpal, a Chandigarh-based lawyer and civil liberties activist, fought for three years for the release of Fida Hussain and five other Pakistanis who had languished in Indian jails years beyond their sentences.
By contrast, a jail reformation process is being pursued in Pakistan and the Ministry of Human Rights is taking various initiatives, an official told APP.
As many as 550 juvenile prisoners in Balochistan province were recently released on the directives of Caretaker Human Rights Minister Ansar Burney, he added. Similarly, the cases of a large number of people imprisoned for the last 15 to 30 years, have been expedited. app
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* Media reports point to difference between treatment meted out to Indian and Pakistani ‘spies’ in jails
* Say 48 Pakistani prisoners languish in Indian jails even after serving their sentences
ISLAMABAD: As the dead body of ill-fated Pakistani prisoner Khalid Mehmood arrived back home on Monday, harsh questions are being asked by media over the Pakistani government’s pardoning and release of an Indian spy, Kashmir Singh.
Having seen off Kashmir Singh at Wagah Border last week amid joy and laughter, Pakistanis assembled again yesterday at the same point to receive the body of an innocent Pakistani cricket-lover amid tears and greif.
Mehmood had visited India to watch the Pak-India cricket series, and was reportedly picked up by Indian secret agencies. Indian media reported that Mehmood had died of severe torture at the hands of Indian jail officials.
The arrival of his body in Pakistan puts a question mark over India’s human rights groups.
Bhago Begum, the Pakistani citizen who was freed last year from an Indian jail, described as “dreadful” the conditions suffered by Pakistani prisoners.
She termed the authorities of Indian jails “heartless”, as Pakistani prisoners remained a target of routine “physical abuse” and verbal humiliation at the hands of Indian officials.
There are many other Pakistani nationals who continue to suffer at the hands of the Indian authorities without trial.
On the other side of the border, an Indian national, Kashmir Singh, was pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf and was released from a Pakistani jail last week.
On his way home from Wagah, Singh carried memories of humane treatment in Pakistani jails, despite his being a spy - a fact he admitted as soon as he returned to India after his 35-year imprisonment.
The grey-haired Singh looked physically fit and cheerful after his release, in sharp contrast to the miserable condition of Pakistani prisoners languishing in Indian jails, who unlike Singh do not catch the attention of human rights activists.
Talking to the media, Singh termed his release a “humanitarian gift from President Pervez Musharraf.” The internationally publicised release and the jubilation in Singh’s home village raised questions about the plight of Pakistani prisoners languishing in Indian jails.
The comparison of his figure and complexion with that of Bhago Begum speaks volumes about the treatment meted out to Pakistani prisoners in India.
48 Pakistanis in Indian jails: According to reports, as many as 48 Pakistani prisoners are languishing in jails across Indian Punjab, all of whom have completed their prison terms.
Many of the prisoners have not even been granted consular access, which is mandatory under international conventions that both Pakistan and India are signatory to.
The Asian Age reported that 60-year-old Pakistani Mukhtar Ahmad of Kasur, currently in Amritsar’s high-security central jail, has spent 17 years in various prisons across India.
The jail officials said that they were “helpless” and could not release the 48 detainees since they would be “guilty” of violating the Foreigners Act the minute the prisoners were permitted to step out of the jail premises.
“We have no ulterior interest in retaining these people. But we can only follow the instructions from Delhi,” said Superintendent SP Singh.
And past experience shows that Delhi could well remain silent for years. The apparent lethargy on the part of the Indian bureaucracy in processing the cases of the 48 Pakistanis in Amritsar Jail is surprising.
Ranjan Lakhanpal, a Chandigarh-based lawyer and civil liberties activist, fought for three years for the release of Fida Hussain and five other Pakistanis who had languished in Indian jails years beyond their sentences.
By contrast, a jail reformation process is being pursued in Pakistan and the Ministry of Human Rights is taking various initiatives, an official told APP.
As many as 550 juvenile prisoners in Balochistan province were recently released on the directives of Caretaker Human Rights Minister Ansar Burney, he added. Similarly, the cases of a large number of people imprisoned for the last 15 to 30 years, have been expedited. app
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Yes here's the show thats based on the true story about Sipahi Maqbool Hussain, it was really too sad made my entire family cry
Double click the video below, to see the entire show, there's 20 parts.
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Blanket statements are for demagogues. If you think you are one, I have no objections.
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Theres no blanket statements here. Just search the stories of each of these men, and see for yourself how each were treated and what happened to each of these men.
Search:
1. Sipahi Maqbool Hussain
2. Khalid Mahmood cricket fan
3. Kashmir singh indian spy
In this day and age of internet, no one can make up blanket statements.
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101 Indians return from Pak jails with horror stories - Express India
Burney calls for probe into Indian prisoners death in Pak jail
Freed Prisoners bring home torture tales from Pak jails
These videos does nothing but create hate,There are stories of toruture of prisoners in pak jail too..!!! So trying to create an impression that pak good india evil is foolish..!!! I would say an effort should be taken to see the big picture else our views will be always influenced by half baked facts..!!!
However i fully agree with the concept that every prisoner should be treated with dignity. And such an principle if it is prevalent in majority of Pakistan then that is commendable.
Burney calls for probe into Indian prisoners death in Pak jail
Freed Prisoners bring home torture tales from Pak jails
These videos does nothing but create hate,There are stories of toruture of prisoners in pak jail too..!!! So trying to create an impression that pak good india evil is foolish..!!! I would say an effort should be taken to see the big picture else our views will be always influenced by half baked facts..!!!
However i fully agree with the concept that every prisoner should be treated with dignity. And such an principle if it is prevalent in majority of Pakistan then that is commendable.
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These are all fake stories, because unlike the case with Maqbool Hussein, their is no evidence where these statements are coming from. Most likely some Hindutva propaganda!
It's terrible what the Savage Indians did to this man, may Allah (SWT) bless him, and give strength to others who are in a similar position.
Zaid Hamid talks about this great hero much of his videos... Some of the statements can be found in this video:
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There are many indian Sipahi Maqbool Hussain langushing in pakistnai jails for many decades.
We released ur Sipahi Maqbool Hussain.I guess now its ur turn to release ours.
54 Indian PoWs of 1971 war still in Pakistan
By Shahnawaz Khan
LAHORE: The families of 54 missing Indian defence personnel are still waiting to meet their loved ones, who for the past 33 years are believed to be in Pakistani jails as prisoner of war (POW) Daily Times learnt on Monday.
Seventy-year-old Nirmal Kore, the wife of Assa Singh, is still waiting for her husband to return from a war that took place 34 years back. Assa Singh, a Subedar in the 5-Sikh regiment, is believed to be in Pakistan as a POW since 1971.
Assa Singh’s son, Harcharan Singh, is convinced that his father is still alive. Harcharan Singh said that Bhogal Ram, another soldier, was released from Pakistan in 2000 and had seen Assa Singh alive at the Kot Lakhpat jail. Harcharan was five when his father left for war and the growing up was hard. He said, “My mother had to undergo a lot of suffering. The landlord snatched away our land and the government provided no financial aid, job or land.” He added, “My mother is suffering from health problems. The government has done nothing to ensure the release of my father. But what happened has happened I have lost my childhood, my family has undergone pain and agony; now my only wish is to meet my father and embrace him.”
Sixty-year-old Kanta Devi echoes such a story of waiting, longing and desperation. Her husband Subedar Kali Das has not been seen since the 1971 but, after the war, she heard on Pakistan Radio that he was caught alive. Kanta is confident that her husband will return one day. She said, “I will offer a heavy gold ring at the Kali temple, go to Vaishno Devi and take a dip in the river Ganges with my family upon his return”.
“Raising four sons and two daughters was not easy. I got my children educated and married from the Rs 300 pension that I received. There was no other support from the government,” said Kanti.
That Rs 300 has been increased to Rs 5,000 but that is little consolation to Kanti’s family of two widowed daughters and two unemployed sons. “It is ironical that the country for which my husband fought has no time to listen to us,” she said. Her son, Ramesh Kumar, 39, remembers the days without a father. “I used to work in shops overtime so that I could pay my school and college fees. The Kargil heroes were given millions in addition to other benefits like lands and jobs but what about the heroes of the 1971 war?” he asked.
Bansi Lal, the son-in-law of Jagdish Lal of the 2nd Mahar regiment, showed a letter from the Mahar regiment written in 1972 to prove how insensitive the government has been. The letter reads: “Application for grant from the disabled army personnel widows and orphan fund was placed before the welfare committee but regrettably because of lack of funds, your case has been rejected.”
An official of the Missing Defence Personnel Relatives Association (MDPRA) said, “After the war 2,238 Indian defence personnel were missing. After the Simla Agreement of 1972, India returned all the 93,000 Pakistani POWs. However, only 617 Indian POWs were returned by Pakistan.”
He said that the treatment of Indian POWs was the ‘biggest violation of international human rights by Pakistan’. MK Paul, the vice president of MDPRA, has filed a petition for their release with the International Red Cross in Geneva and with Human Rights Watch in New York.
Rajesh, a relative of an Indian POW, said that in September 1996, the then minister of External Affairs IK Gujral had said 54 missing Indian defence personnel are believed to be in Pakistan. He added that Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee noted in the Sainik Samachar journal of September 2004: It is estimated that 17 army officers, two junior commissioned officers and 19 other ranks (ORs) are currently in Pakistan jails.
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We released ur Sipahi Maqbool Hussain.I guess now its ur turn to release ours.
54 Indian PoWs of 1971 war still in Pakistan
By Shahnawaz Khan
LAHORE: The families of 54 missing Indian defence personnel are still waiting to meet their loved ones, who for the past 33 years are believed to be in Pakistani jails as prisoner of war (POW) Daily Times learnt on Monday.
Seventy-year-old Nirmal Kore, the wife of Assa Singh, is still waiting for her husband to return from a war that took place 34 years back. Assa Singh, a Subedar in the 5-Sikh regiment, is believed to be in Pakistan as a POW since 1971.
Assa Singh’s son, Harcharan Singh, is convinced that his father is still alive. Harcharan Singh said that Bhogal Ram, another soldier, was released from Pakistan in 2000 and had seen Assa Singh alive at the Kot Lakhpat jail. Harcharan was five when his father left for war and the growing up was hard. He said, “My mother had to undergo a lot of suffering. The landlord snatched away our land and the government provided no financial aid, job or land.” He added, “My mother is suffering from health problems. The government has done nothing to ensure the release of my father. But what happened has happened I have lost my childhood, my family has undergone pain and agony; now my only wish is to meet my father and embrace him.”
Sixty-year-old Kanta Devi echoes such a story of waiting, longing and desperation. Her husband Subedar Kali Das has not been seen since the 1971 but, after the war, she heard on Pakistan Radio that he was caught alive. Kanta is confident that her husband will return one day. She said, “I will offer a heavy gold ring at the Kali temple, go to Vaishno Devi and take a dip in the river Ganges with my family upon his return”.
“Raising four sons and two daughters was not easy. I got my children educated and married from the Rs 300 pension that I received. There was no other support from the government,” said Kanti.
That Rs 300 has been increased to Rs 5,000 but that is little consolation to Kanti’s family of two widowed daughters and two unemployed sons. “It is ironical that the country for which my husband fought has no time to listen to us,” she said. Her son, Ramesh Kumar, 39, remembers the days without a father. “I used to work in shops overtime so that I could pay my school and college fees. The Kargil heroes were given millions in addition to other benefits like lands and jobs but what about the heroes of the 1971 war?” he asked.
Bansi Lal, the son-in-law of Jagdish Lal of the 2nd Mahar regiment, showed a letter from the Mahar regiment written in 1972 to prove how insensitive the government has been. The letter reads: “Application for grant from the disabled army personnel widows and orphan fund was placed before the welfare committee but regrettably because of lack of funds, your case has been rejected.”
An official of the Missing Defence Personnel Relatives Association (MDPRA) said, “After the war 2,238 Indian defence personnel were missing. After the Simla Agreement of 1972, India returned all the 93,000 Pakistani POWs. However, only 617 Indian POWs were returned by Pakistan.”
He said that the treatment of Indian POWs was the ‘biggest violation of international human rights by Pakistan’. MK Paul, the vice president of MDPRA, has filed a petition for their release with the International Red Cross in Geneva and with Human Rights Watch in New York.
Rajesh, a relative of an Indian POW, said that in September 1996, the then minister of External Affairs IK Gujral had said 54 missing Indian defence personnel are believed to be in Pakistan. He added that Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee noted in the Sainik Samachar journal of September 2004: It is estimated that 17 army officers, two junior commissioned officers and 19 other ranks (ORs) are currently in Pakistan jails.
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Only after we tear out their tongues and toe nails like you tore out our soldier's tongue and toe nails.
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Also its terrible what they did to Khalid Mahmood, who was neither a Pakistani soldier or a spy, but a Pakistani CRICKET FAN who went to India to watch a match. May his soul rest in peace.
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IF these are your intentions then why do you keep on blaming India s for everything....if you have no mercy ....why do you want others to be merciful.....
Read This before you start shouting anti India slogans....
Indian POWs from the 1971 War ******* IN TSP JAILS! Have we forgetten them!!
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...alls-war-and-pakistan-captivity_10071229.html
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