Indian Media Discloses Dismal Performance of SU-30MKI Fighters During Kashmir Skirmish

[crankthatskunk]

1) You didn't 'bomb' 6 different locations but dropped some off the targets with defused fuses as a message. If you had actually bombed...We would have BOILED the teams that did it
2) No Su 30 was shot down. That's just the fantasy of people like @Windjammer . Mig 21 was asked NOT to cross over. Dude got a little too enthusiastic. Happens. Our boys can be like that at time.

Why o Why the Indians didn't learn to keep their gobs shut!!

1- The mere fact that Pakistani jets came, jammed your communications, made your jets blind, bombed Indian controlled areas of Kashmir. Sent a message to your Army Chief that they could have easily taken his life if they wanted to, is not enough reasons!!

2- How have you boiled the teams who did the bombing!! By asking your best fighters to avoid the missiles!!!

3- Or by asking them to shield from the air theatre!!

4- You did try to give the vibes through 3rd countries that you will launch missiles strikes against Pakistan. After getting the response back from Pakistan that 6 missile for one sent by India, you decided to run from that threat too.

How exactly you could have boiled the teams who did, while your best jets were running away!!

 

[Taimoor Khan]

rape#6: Beni Israil haven’t been disgraced this much since the time of the Firaun!! Thanks to India, their SOM mislanded, radars got jammed, AD misfired, jets modified with their electronic systems got shot down etc. Even their LAST TEMPTATION of jacking up the Indians into firing a couple of missiles toward Pak got compromised.

HAHAHAHA. Brutal!!


I have been focusing on this vary point for sometime now, but people by and large are still not realising the deep post swift retort repercussions on the world.

 

[Windjammer]

If you want to know the end result of the skirmish, the best give away is how the two nations reacted after the incident.
India did not budge and acted responsibly. Su 30 dodged the the AMRAAMs, MIG 21 shot down an F16.

Pakistan in panic after the incident, imposed no fly zone for months for the fear of Indian attack, spread propaganda in panic which looked like they are hiding loses, went to China to get new air to air missiles, did air to air exercises with China.

half of you F16’s would have been lost on that day if India had replied to Pakistani adventure. Pakistan missed all their bombing target which showed they did not even come close and unloaded their ammunition in a hurry.

So the brilliant Bharti mind thinks that any said party needs permission to attack their enemy and by imposing a no fly zone you deny this permission....incredible, pity you could have sold this idea to say Sadam Hussain.....he could have imposed no fly zone over Iraq thus preventing America and it's allies from attacking.
And according to you, India acted responsibly by Modi crying out for Rafales, Indian warlords crying to America that they have been abused by an AMRAAM....and oh yes the Indian ground defences indeed acted responsibly by not hurting anyone else and tested the SAM on self to prove it can be done.
And one wonders why after PAF paid a courtesy call to Indian Brigade HQ and other targets, why the IAF decided to stay away and India instead threatened to use missiles only to crawl back under the rock once Pakistan promised to hit back with three for every missile launched by India.
BTW, did your Bipin ever disclosed why he refused to fly that day, and decided to travel by train to Delhi.
Lastly kudos to IAF for flying it's entire fleet of Two SU-30s and Three Mirage-2000s to convince it's rattled and gullible public that none were lost to the PAF.
Hence, It's now obvious that when God was distributing brains, Indians were still missing the Skull.

nonsense.
a) Anyone with a working brain knows that if the fight is around Kashmir F 16 can fire AIM into our skies without entring and bring down a Sukhoi
b) So IAF asked Sukhoi not to stay out of their range and away from all battle areas
c) Abhi was also asked to not follow any jets into Pak but he lost track when he got too focused on the battle

The decision was to not create a military situation in Kashmir because when Art 370 was getting scrapped we didn't want Pak to get any spotlight. The last thing we wanted was world media saying 'situation tense- hughe military situation' when we scrap it.

Rest is just fantasy people like @Windjammer make up. We come in force, you will lose. Period.


The sukois were asked not to engage.

Next time you want to splash your brains, make sure to put on your thinking cap.

 

[Windjammer]

1) You didn't 'bomb' 6 different locations but dropped some off the targets with defused fuses as a message. If you had actually bombed...We would have BOILED the teams that did it
2) No Su 30 was shot down. That's just the fantasy of people like @Windjammer . Mig 21 was asked NOT to cross over. Dude got a little too enthusiastic. Happens. Our boys can be like that at time.

Boiled is only half cooked, we actually made you fry six of your own. That was double the pleasure as it happened without us even having to waste a bullet on this one.....we actually cleared some ground next to your supply depot giving your Mi-17 a chance to land and save it from getting toasted.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

That didnt work, "tea is fantastic" now a global meme.



PAF deliberately bomb around the Indian military installation, release the footage of one of its SOWs onboard camera clearly showing Indian army depo in its cross hair, Indian AVM on camera admitting Pakistani actions as "act of war".

If you are to be believed with your utterance, only one word comes into mind..... COWARDS.

Correct. We were ok with 'Tea is fantastic' becoming Global Meme'. 'Save kashmir' etc. didn't when we scrapped Article 370.

As for Su engagement- it's called using brain to engage for the higher objective. Something both the Pak govt and PAF didn't seem to have in feb. They engaged in theatrics and lost Kashmir.

Boil is only half cooked, we actually made you fry six of your own. That was double the pleasure as it happened without us even having to waste a bullet on this one.....we actually cleared some ground next to your supply depot giving your Mi-17 a chance to land and save it from getting toasted.

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I can photoshop that to look like your parliamet.

So the brilliant Bharti mind thinks that any said party needs permission to attack their enemy and by imposing a no fly zone you deny this permission....incredible, pity you could have sold this idea to say Sadam Hussain.....he could have imposed no fly zone over Iraq thus preventing America and it's allies from attacking.
And according to you, India acted responsibly by Modi crying out for Rafales, Indian warlords crying to America that they have been abused by an AMRAAM....and oh yes the Indian ground defences indeed acted responsibly by not hurting anyone else and tested the SAM on self to prove it can be done.
And one wonders why after PAF paid a courtesy call to Indian Brigade HQ and other targets, why the IAF decided to stay away and India instead threatened to use missiles only to crawl back under the rock once Pakistan promised to hit back with three for every missile launched by India.
BTW, did your Bipin ever disclosed why he refused to fly that day, and decided to travel by train to Delhi.
Lastly kudos to IAF for flying it's entire fleet of Two SU-30s and Three Mirage-2000s to convince it's rattled and gullible public that none were lost to the PAF.
Hence, It's now obvious that when God was distributing brains, Indians were still missing the Skull.

Next time you want to splash your brains, make sure to put on your thinking cap.

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That stuff belongs to an IAF hero. Make sure you return it with the respect it deserves.

 

[Baibars_1260]

Interesting...Indian media has been trashing their Sukhoi 30s since one year back

Extracts from the article below :

Not much has changed for IAF a year after it was outgunned by Pakistan

India has made some progress in moving to acquire fighters, tech and equipment but it is yet to get its hands on any.

theprint.in

"Pakistan was armed with better fighter planes, Beyond Visual Range air-to-air missiles like AMRAAMs and backed by state-of-the-art SAAB airborne warning and control systems (AWACS), and left the Indian Air Force wanting in many places."

"From limitations of the Su 30 MKI radar to pick up enemy fighters properly to the technical issue faced by the Mirage 2000 aircraft over firing their Mica air-to-air missile, the list of the shortcomings that the IAF experienced is long."

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The lack of more AWACS was felt during the 27 February aerial dual when Pakistan, which operates about 10 such systems, took advantage of the changeover of the IAF’s eye in the sky.

The only actual change that has taken place on the ground is that the MiG 29 has been replaced with the Su 30 MKI as the additional fighter at the Srinagar base that houses the 51 Squadron of the MiG 21 Bisons.

However, plans to permanently base the Su 30 MKI cannot be implemented immediately because the hangars in Srinagar can’t accommodate the giant Russian fighters, defence sources told ThePrint."

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The Sukhois with their R-77 missiles, which have a range that’s shorter than the AMRAAMs, were no match for the F-16s that had better air-to-air weapons.
( Are not the R77 and AMRAAMs in the same class ?- 160 km range )

Sources said one Sukhoi was fired upon by the F-16s and had to take high-speed maneouvres to outgun the AMRAAMs.

The second Sukhoi too took tactical action keeping in mind that they were told by the Barnala-based Integrated Air Command and Control System (IACCS) that AMRAAMs were being fired.

The second Sukhoi had also failed to properly pick up the enemy fighters through its radars.

Sources said one Sukhoi was fired upon by the F-16s and had to take high-speed maneouvres to outgun the AMRAAMs.

The second Sukhoi too took tactical action keeping in mind that they were told by the Barnala-based Integrated Air Command and Control System (IACCS) that AMRAAMs were being fired.

The second Sukhoi had also failed to properly pick up the enemy fighters through its radars.

 

[Baibars_1260]

That stuff belongs to an IAF hero. Make sure you return it with the respect it deserves.

Nope, that's the property of our Air Force Museum where it is respectfully preserved like this little bird. ( Link )

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Reality is that your so famous JF17 were far away the battle,
The sole potent fighters in the PAF inventory are the now old F16,
You fired the AMRAAM out of their range, in a shy attitude. Seems that an AMRAAM cost very few for you !
India lose a mig 21 and PAF a F16. End of the story.
I see no victory, nor for PAF nor for IAF.

Strike Package had Mirages and JF17s and Amraam were fired in an attacking manner not shying manner and PAF 9 targets locked only 2 were engaged..

And PAF lost F16 ? Only according to indian propaganda..

America along with many western analysts/organisations denied it based on factual data biggest being all of the mig21 missiles being unfired..

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Correct. We were ok with 'Tea is fantastic' becoming Global Meme'. 'Save kashmir' etc. didn't when we scrapped Article 370.

Fantastic tea was provided in "Azad" Kashmir by Kashmiris themselves

As for Su engagement- it's called using brain to engage for the higher objective. Something both the Pak govt and PAF didn't seem to have in feb. They engaged in theatrics and lost Kashmir.

And PAKISTAN used its brain properly and gave a befitting response to lungidharis

I can photoshop that to look like your parliamet.

That's the only thing indians are good at scamming and "photoshopping"

That stuff belongs to an IAF hero. Make sure you return it with the respect it deserves.

IAF hero landed in Pakistan out of fear

 

[Windjammer]

Correct. We were ok with 'Tea is fantastic' becoming Global Meme'. 'Save kashmir' etc. didn't when we scrapped Article 370.

As for Su engagement- it's called using brain to engage for the higher objective. Something both the Pak govt and PAF didn't seem to have in feb. They engaged in theatrics and lost Kashmir.

Lost Kashmir....Lol......do your soldiers even have the nerve to hoist the Taranga openly.....not to mention Pakistani flags giving the Indian soldiers a two finger salute all over IOK.

I can photoshop that to look like your parliamet.

Well you better first teach your Agni Pankh Patils who failed miserably on their Balakot photoshop efforts.
Hell, even a female like Christine Fair gave it to you like there's no tomorrow.

That stuff belongs to an IAF hero. Make sure you return it with the respect it deserves.

Obviously after Brij Pal Singh Sikand , only Abhinandan qualifies to be Indian hero.
Btw, don't worry the stuff is kept safe along with his uniform and MiG wreckage in a museum where thousands visit and witness what kind of respect PAF gave to the IAF.

 

[Khanate]

The illiterate Prime Minister of India thought, "clouds could actually help our planes escape the radars."

This comedy only got better when India shot down its own helicopter, killing 6 servicemen 1 civilian on the ground, and then had two IAF jets shot down by PAF for the sake of a hot cup of fantastic tea.

 

[Dac O Dac]

No F-16s have been lost.

Every one except some pak people denied that. Is it your wet dream ?

 

[Windjammer]

Every one except some pak people denied that. Is it your wet dream ?

Never seen a French man give such a bad example, however there are other shameless creatures too embarrassed to display their real flags.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Check with your ISPR and Airforce personal in this regard, they will explain what exactly happened on that day and why Pakistani establishment went on back foot and scarmbled for new missiles and tech

Lolx new missile and tech ? Rafale hota to Natija kuch or hota was also said by ISPR right..?

Yes an Su 30 MKI was shot down and three pilots were caught on that day and one is an Israeli. Delusions at best dude. Pakistan invested in heavily on propaganda to counter India, even the propaganda dept. failed in this case.

3 pilots one 1 nandu.. 1 dead in Pakistan and 3rd one which was to be rescued by Mi17.. and delusions ? Indians saying Pakistan did propaganda is biggest propaganda by delusional propaganda.. and indian propaganda has been busted in all cases not just by Pakistan but also by rest of world..

This is what your ISPR boasted, Indian generals lead from front. There is no shortage of capable individuals in India. Your F16's and JF17's did not even come close to border. They dumped their ammunition when India fighter jets maneuvered and tried to counter the offensive. In panic they dropped the ammunition and went back. On that day your signals were effectively jammed, both your air to air missles and radars were made ineffective.

Yeah indian generals lead from the front when running out of indian installations.. "moments before the attack"

And F16s and JF17 were nowhere near border once again a proof of indian delusions even in indian feku radar pictures they were near the LOC..

And PAF assets dumped their munition ? Maybe you should watch the video of your indian arses being attacked again its clear that munitions were launched and controlled till last moment..

And indian jets manoeuvred ? Indians had no balls to send from Srinagar and had to send jets from Halwara unprofessional IAF lacked a doctrine for neaely 50 years

And indians should not boast about jamming our signals as that never happened on other hand IAF called all mig21s back (even the Su30s as they had no mig21 to back Su30s) because of Pakistans EW attack.. nandu couldn't communicate with ground control and came into our airspace to get fried

And our radars and missiles were made ineffective? Then how did nandu get fried ?

India produced radar signatures, secondly it is upto Pakistan to acknowledge their soldier sacrifices not the job of Indian armed forces to prove a point. There will be some causalities of men and fighter jets in combat, There are numerous incidents where major powers lost both pilots and fighter jets in wars. India side wanted to calm down the situation after the Balakot raid and the Indian establishment did so.

Andhbhakti ki b koi seema geeta hoti he.. on one hand you talk about feku photos of radar signature on other hand deny Pakistan being near LOC sharam to ati hogi ?

And acknowledging casualties? India writes em off as suicide you talk about accepting casualties and ask indian army the reason for suspension of IAF commanders and also where the Mi17 going ?

And india calmed down the situation you mean boasting about 9 missile when nandu was being served tea

Just a minute there, I can cross LoC at a point of my choosing and I can also engage a stationary target for few minutes and run away and claim victory, just like the cowords who cross LoC to do attacks in Kashmir.

Abhi chased the aircraft even though he knows a large contingent of PAF is airborne and the rest of them are kept in ready mode, shot the enemy aircraft

Indians crossed LOC for 2 minutes during night engaged a preplanned target yet missed and ran away when a pair of F16 tried to engage em from Peshawar area
And PAF struck in the day at 6 points stayed in the area and fried nandu..

As for nandu his fellows turned back he crossed the LOC without knowing anything regarding the PAF jets as his coms and systems were jammed.. and nandu shot enemy jet ? Without even firing a missile ?

After the incident our army chief was shaking and sweating and release Abhinandan and also imposed no fly zone.

Again you proved the fact that indians are dumb andhbhakts who are easily fooled by propaganda Pakistan parliamentarian said something regarding Pak FM and indians potrayed it as it was for Pak COAS btw Nirvane ka depression kam hua ?

We raided Balakot and got our pilot back

Lolx yeah sure Balakot ki awam ne nandu ko ache se dhoya tha

Internal politics, targeted against opposition reminding them that they delayed the defense procurement.

And for their delays IAF got trashed

 

[Dustom999]

When i was in the academy, apart from advertising , things i was made to learn were - Bbs(Beg borrow steal), another thingy that ws predominant was - no one is better than you ( in my sqn it primarily meant cross-country running).
I am saying all this only because training is devised as you being invisible, knowing all, commanding all.
All forces work on making people believe things like invisibility , glory, and all that works very well in training environment! It dsnt work on actual D-day.
Both Indian and Pakistani ground forces are Deluded