Indian jaguars capability............

[honour]

India which purchased about 38 of jaguar aircraft and also acquired the license to manufacture 140 of them locally. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, India's leading aerospace agency, manufactured 140 Jaguars under the name Shamsher.
* No. 5 Squadron 'Tuskers', IAF Ambala ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from August 1981
* No. 6 Squadron 'Dragons', IAF Jamnagar ( Jaguar IM, IS, IB ) from 1987
* No. 14 Squadron 'Bulls', IAF Ambala ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from March 1981
* No. 16 Squadron 'Rattlers', IAF Gorakhpur ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from October 1986
* No. 27 Squadron 'Flaming Arrows', IAF Gorakhpur ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from June 1985
* No.224 Squadron 'Warlords', IAF Jamnagar ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from July 1983


* Crew: One
* Length: 16.83 m (55 ft 3 in)
* Wingspan: 8.69 m (28 ft 6 in)
* Height: 4.92 m (16 ft 1 in)
* Wing area: 24 m² (258 ft²)
* Empty weight: 7,000 kg (15,400 lb)
* Loaded weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb)
* Max takeoff weight: 15,700 kg (34,600 lb)
* Powerplant: 2× Rolls-Royce/Turbomeca Adour Mk 102 turbofans, 32.5 kN (7,305 lbf) each

Performance

* Maximum speed: 1,593 km/h or 1055 miles/h (Mach 1.6)
* Range: 535 km combat, 3,525 km ferry (335 mi / 2,190 mi)
* Service ceiling: 14,000 m (46,000 ft)
* Rate of climb: m/s (ft/min)
* Wing loading: kg/m² (lb/ft²)
* Thrust/weight: 0.60

Armament

* Guns: 2× 30 mm (1.18 in) ADEN cannons OR DEFA cannons, 150 rounds/gun
* Rockets: 8× Matra rocket pods with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each
* Missiles: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders OR Matra R550 Magics on overwing pylons (Jaguar International and RAF Jaguars only)
* Bombs: 10,000 lb (4,540 kg) of payload on five external hardpoints, including a variety of bombs, reconnaissance pods (such as the Joint Reconnaissance Pod), Drop tanks or the Anglo-French AS-37 Martel missiles

any view on the beast...............any info on its replacement/up gradation....
also comparison to other similar aircraft welcomed.............

 

[KS]

Since u asked for related fighter...here i gothough this is a bit overkill for the above one)

My Favourite which is one fighter i wuld love to c in Indian colors:


The Su-34 FullBack fighter/bomber.

Sukhoi Su-32/Su-34 Fullback


ALUTSISTA : ALAT UTAMA SISTEM SENJATA: Sukhoi Su-34 Fullback

 

[jha]

India which purchased about 38 of jaguar aircraft and also acquired the license to manufacture 140 of them locally. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, India's leading aerospace agency, manufactured 140 Jaguars under the name Shamsher.
* No. 5 Squadron 'Tuskers', IAF Ambala ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from August 1981
* No. 6 Squadron 'Dragons', IAF Jamnagar ( Jaguar IM, IS, IB ) from 1987
* No. 14 Squadron 'Bulls', IAF Ambala ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from March 1981
* No. 16 Squadron 'Rattlers', IAF Gorakhpur ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from October 1986
* No. 27 Squadron 'Flaming Arrows', IAF Gorakhpur ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from June 1985
* No.224 Squadron 'Warlords', IAF Jamnagar ( Jaguar IS, IB ) from July 1983


* Crew: One
* Length: 16.83 m (55 ft 3 in)
* Wingspan: 8.69 m (28 ft 6 in)
* Height: 4.92 m (16 ft 1 in)
* Wing area: 24 m² (258 ft²)
* Empty weight: 7,000 kg (15,400 lb)
* Loaded weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb)
* Max takeoff weight: 15,700 kg (34,600 lb)
* Powerplant: 2× Rolls-Royce/Turbomeca Adour Mk 102 turbofans, 32.5 kN (7,305 lbf) each

Performance

* Maximum speed: 1,593 km/h or 1055 miles/h (Mach 1.6)
* Range: 535 km combat, 3,525 km ferry (335 mi / 2,190 mi)
* Service ceiling: 14,000 m (46,000 ft)
* Rate of climb: m/s (ft/min)
* Wing loading: kg/m² (lb/ft²)
* Thrust/weight: 0.60

Armament

* Guns: 2× 30 mm (1.18 in) ADEN cannons OR DEFA cannons, 150 rounds/gun
* Rockets: 8× Matra rocket pods with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each
* Missiles: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders OR Matra R550 Magics on overwing pylons (Jaguar International and RAF Jaguars only)
* Bombs: 10,000 lb (4,540 kg) of payload on five external hardpoints, including a variety of bombs, reconnaissance pods (such as the Joint Reconnaissance Pod), Drop tanks or the Anglo-French AS-37 Martel missiles

any view on the beast...............any info on its replacement/up gradation....
also comparison to other similar aircraft welcomed.............

i believe there were some talks going on for DARIN-3 upgrades for this...however nothing heard since last dec. ...considering our bureaucracy this is just normal...
however would be grateful if some one sheds some light on the scope of this upgrade..

 

[honour]

just read a magazine called FORCE....I saw two adds in it by Honeywell and Rolls Royce for engines for jaguars....Rolls currently provides the engine....but Honeywell promiseS to provide its R-345C engine with higher thrust.......

 

[jha]

yes...jaguar is under powered no doubt...and engines will be upgraded but what else will be there can you please dig out...?

 

[honour]

Since u asked for related fighter...here i gothough this is a bit overkill for the above one)

My Favourite which is one fighter i wuld love to c in Indian colors:


The Su-34 FullBack fighter/bomber.

Sukhoi Su-32/Su-34 Fullback


ALUTSISTA : ALAT UTAMA SISTEM SENJATA: Sukhoi Su-34 Fullback

Looks good but we already have a lot of Russian in our inventory like- Su-30mki,
MIG-29kub ,
Mig-21 ,
Mig-27 ,
Mig-29k/ub,
T-90 Bhishma,
T-72 Ajeya,
AK-104/105/103/47
Akula submarine
Dragunov sniper rifle,
M-46 artillery,
Smerch MBRLS.. ..
Sukhoi-PAK/FA,
FUTURE MTA,
INS Vikramaditya
Frigates

i feel now is the time India should shift its balance from russia to neutral ground........
F-15 strike/silent eagle will be a better choice

 

[jha]

^^ F-15SE will be no doubt a great item in our kitty but what about the strings attached with it.....

 

[KS]

Looks good but we already have a lot of Russian in our inventory like- Su-30mki,
MIG-29kub ,
Mig-21 ,
Mig-27 ,
Mig-29k/ub,
T-90 Bhishma,
T-72 Ajeya,
AK-104/105/103/47
Akula submarine
Dragunov sniper rifle,
M-46 artillery,
Smerch MBRLS.. ..
Sukhoi-PAK/FA,
FUTURE MTA,
INS Vikramaditya
Frigates

i feel now is the time India should shift its balance from russia to neutral ground........
F-15 strike/silent eagle will be a better choice

No buddy the strike eagle is like the MKI...Strike Aircraft (primarily air superiority but can do decent A2G missions).

But this one is an out and out Fighter/Bomber (entirely difffernt class) like the Jaguars and Mig 27 but overperforming them too much
and since we have the MKI for strike role we can buy 2 0r 3 sq of these for dedicated attack missions.

just look at the ferry range in the specification - 14000 km.

And the fact that we have Russian doesnt mean we have to forcefully go to western tech for everything.
We buy which is good in perfomance,load,cost everything.

 

[ironman]

any view on the beast...............any info on its replacement/up gradation....
also comparison to other similar aircraft welcomed.............

You can dig out any info from here itself. Just use the search option properly...

Jaguar: Battle Royal​

This promises to be the mother of all combat aircraft-specific upgrades: up to 120 existing SEPECAT/HAL-built Jaguar IS interdictor/strike aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF) will be re-engined as well as re-equipped with a fourth-generation combined cockpit/mission avionics suite along with a related defensive aids suite, all of which will result in the twin-engined Jaguar IS being reborn as a formidable all-weather platform with enhanced technical service life, enhanced weapons carriage capability (especially precision-guided munitions, or PGM), and also a platform capable of undertaking dedicated suppression of enemy air defence (SEADF) missions.

Last month, the IAF set up a high-level systems evaluation committee whose first task will be to identify a suitable turbofan for the re-engining component of the massive upgrade-cum-service life extension programme. The engine evaluation-sum-selection process will be overseen by K V L Rao, the former Project Director (propulsion systems) of the Defence Research & Development Organisation’s (DRDO) Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), which is leading the R & D efforts of the Tejas Mk1 and projected Mk2 light combat aircraft (LCA). Bidding for supplying up to 280 turbofans (including 40 spare engines) are UK-based Rolls-Royce and US-based Honeywell, with the competitive evaluation process being expected to reach its conclusion by next month. Honeywell is offering its F125IN, a 43.8kN thrust (with afterburning) turbofan, while Rolls-Royce, whose Adour Mk811 (rated at 32.5kN thrust with afterburning) presently powers the Jaguars, has proposed its Adour Mk821 turbofan. Honeywell, which first showcased the F125IN at the Aero India 2009 expo in Bangalore last February, claims that its proposed solution boasts “improved pilot safety, lower maintenance costs and outstanding reliability”. Honeywell has also since stated that the F125IN’s modular construction and integral dual full-authority digital engine control system (FADEC) would save the IAF US$1.5billion in life-cycle costs as compared to its competitor. Rolls-Royce, on the other hand, claims that its Mk821, which is built on the proven technology of the preceeding Adour engines, “offers a low-risk route to the twin benefits of greater thrust and lower life-cycle costs”. According to the aero-engine manufacturer, choosing the Mk821 will also offer a high degree of commonality with the Adour Mk871 turbofan that currently powers the BAE Systems/HAL Hawk Mk132 lead-in fighter trainers now in delivery to the IAF. Rolls-Royce recently demonstrated the successfull installation and ground-testing of an Adour Mk821 engine in an ex-Royal Air Force Jaguar at Cosford, which was witnessed by IAF officials. During these tests the Adour Mk821 ran at full reheat and reportedly passed all performance targets set down by the IAF. The tests were conducted by Rolls-Royce’s Chief Test Pilot Phill O’Dell, who said: “As a former RAF Jaguar pilot myself I was impressed with the performance and functionality that the Mk821 delivered. This had no adverse affect on the aircraft, highlighting the ease of the integration process and the compatibility of the engine with the airframe. This is no real surprise as they were literally made for each other”. Martin Fausset, Managing Director of Rolls-Royce Defence Aerospace, said: “As the only engine certified for the Jaguar we were always confident that the Adour Mk821 could be successfully installed without any aircraft modification, even with the new technologies and enhanced performance, but this exercise has allowed us to demonstrate this high level of compatibility to the IAF. We believe that we have proved that the Adour Mk821 meets all IAF performance requirements at the lowest risk”. The Mk821, according to Rolls-Royce, includes several technology inserts from other civil and military programmes and has been specifically designed for the IAF’s operational requirements, offering the twin benefits of greater thrust and lower life-cycle costs.
Vicki Panhuise, Honeywell’s Vice President for Military Aircraft, claimed that the F125N “will transform the IAF Jaguars by improving mission performance, enhancing pilot safety, reducing pilot workload, and reducing maintenance events and costs”. “The F125IN powerplant is significantly lighter and much more powerful than the aircraft’s current engine. It has an advanced FADEC system, modular construction, integrated engine health monitoring system and best-in-class thrust-to-weight ratio—all designed to give the IAF the best engine with the lowest operating and maintenance costs,” Panhuise added. It was in 2007 that the F125IN was successfully demonstrated to the IAF in Bangalore on board an existing IAF Jaguar IS. Its on-condition engine maintenance design leads to maximum time-on-wing, extending the first off-wing inspection interval to more than 10 years of service.

As far as the to-be-upgraded Jaguar IS’ cockpit/mission avionics go, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) last February revealed a prototype DARIN-3 suite at the Aero India 2009 expo, which includes an all-glass cockpit, HOTAS controls, core avionics computer, new-generation stores management system and digital map generator, wide-angle HUD, and an integrated defensive aids suite (IDAS) now being co-developed by the DRDO’s Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE) and EADS Defence Electronics. The IDAS will include a radar/laser warning receiver, full multi-spectral detection-capable missile approach warning system, and a towed-decoy, this being the Ariel Mk3 high-power, fibre-optic linked system. Once a threat has been detected, located, and identified by the on-board radar warning receiver, a jamming signal is generated by the towed-decoy by using a techniques generator based on digital-RF-memory (DRFM) components, which will produce a full range of noise and deception signals between 4.5GHz and 18GHz. The RF signal is converted into modulated laser pulses and transmitted down the 100 metre-long fibre-optic cable to the decoy, which contains a transmitter. The Ariel Mk3 also incorporates a phased-array beam-steering device, providing full spherical coverage with 1.2 kW of power. The twin modular lightweight countermeasures dispensing systems will probably be pylon-mounted. As for mission avionics, the Jaguar IS will be retrofitted with a modified nose section (like that on board the IAF’s existing Jaguar IM maritime strike aircraft) to accommodate a lightweight active phased-array multi-mode radar (like the Vixen 500e from Selex Galileo or SABR from Northrop Grumman) for both scanning for and tracking hostile airborne targets, as well as moving ground target indication. In addition, for engaging in all-weather precision strikes as part of effects-based air operations, the upgraded jaguar IS will be equipped with two pod-mounted sensors: the 196kg EL/M-20600 radar targetting pod (RTP) from Israel Aerospace Industries’ ELTA Systems Division, and RAFAEL Advanced Defence Systems’ Litening-3 laser designator pod. The former integrates synthetic aperture radar (SAR) imaging, ground moving target indication (GMTI) and precision target tracking into a single sensor. The RTP thus provides high-quality radar images of ground targets and terrain from standoff ranges, even through clouds, rain, fog, battlefield smoke and man-made camouflage, thus also catering for immediate post-strike bomb damage assessment (BDA). For undertaking SEAD missions, the upgraded Jaguar IS will be equipped with twin wide-band jammers and up to four high-speed anti-radiation missiles of an as yet undetermined type.

A wide range of PGMs will available for the upgraded Jaguar IS, including the AASM from SAGEM (belonging to France’s SAFRAN Group), Raytheon’s JSOW, MBDA’s Diamond Back, Israel Military Industries’ (IMI) modular standoff vehicle (MSOV) and Delilah multi-role cruise missile, and Raytheon’s Paveway 4 or Israel Aerospace Industries’ Griffin-3 laser-guided bombs. The Diamond Back features a unique joined tandem-wing design that extends the wings from a compact storage position. The deployed wings provide a diamond-shaped platform with excellent manoeuvrability and glide characteristics. The Diamond Back’s wing assembly has successfully demonstrated low-cost range extension technology that can triple the standoff range of of direct-attack munitions. This unique wing assembly, when integrated with tail-controlled GPSW-guided weapons like smaller diameter bombs, provides standoff and cross-track manoeuvrability for a significantly expanded footprint. The larger footprint not only provides additional survivability for the delivery aircraft, but also allows the attack of multiple, widely separated targets from a single release point, and attacks against multiple targets from a single release point. The MSOV is a glide weapon using GPS navigation to reach a pre-planned target at maximum range before dispersing its load of sub-munitions or exploding a unitary warhead. Weighing 1,050kg (2,310lb), including a payload of up to 700kg, the MSOV is 3.97 metres (13 feet) long and has a deployed wingspan of 2.7 metres. The weapon is designed for release from an altitude of up to 35,000 feet ASL, and has a maximum range greater than 120km (65nm). Raytheon, meanwhile, has started integrating its munitions control unit (MCU) on an existing IAF Jaguar IS testbed.
The MCU is a plug-and-play system that enables integration of modern weapons on legacy aircraft with minimal modifications to aircraft wiring and no changes to the flight and stores management software. Once the MCU is integrated on an aircraft, aircrews can employ both existing standofff PGMs and air combat missiles while using the aircraft’s existing weapons management system. Raytheon began integrating its MCU on the Jaguar IS in the second quarter of 2009 and plans to finish the work in less than 24 months. For self-protection, a wide range of within visual range air combat missiles are available, these including RAFAEL’s Python 5 (already on board the Jaguar IM), Raytheon’s AIM-9X, DIEHL/BGT’s Iris-T, and MBDA’s AIM-132 ASRAAM.

Last Updated ( Monday, 27 July 2009 )

 

[sancho]

yes...jaguar is under powered no doubt...and engines will be upgraded but what else will be there can you please dig out...?

Not really clear, different sources reporting different things. Some say engine, new weapons (PGM and WVR missiles), some say also new radars.

^^ F-15SE will be no doubt a great item in our kitty but what about the strings attached with it.....

Don't fall on speculations without sources, IAF won't buy any F15 because we have the MKI for the same roles in the same class. The Mig 27 will simply be replaced by MKI in the heavy ground attack roles and can even use the same weapons the Migs used. If any Jaguars will be phased out, it most likely will be replaced by MMRCAs and with Rafale and F18SH, there are very capable alternatives.

 

[Chanakyaa]

F18 is a far better choice in a2g mode.

Its quite relieving to know that both Rafale and F18 , both of which are main contenders for mmrca, fit this role.

Btw, i wish IAF now looks for something like B52s as well.

 

[Indiarox]

Looks good but we already have a lot of Russian in our inventory like- Su-30mki,
MIG-29kub ,
Mig-21 ,
Mig-27 ,
Mig-29k/ub,
T-90 Bhishma,
T-72 Ajeya,
AK-104/105/103/47
Akula submarine
Dragunov sniper rifle,
M-46 artillery,
Smerch MBRLS.. ..
Sukhoi-PAK/FA,
FUTURE MTA,
INS Vikramaditya
Frigates

i feel now is the time India should shift its balance from russia to neutral ground........
F-15 strike/silent eagle will be a better choice

In the name of diversification we should not go for a less capable aircraft
Fullback/Su35BM would be a good replacement for The Jaguars

 

[Indiarox]

just look at the ferry range in the specification - 14000 km.

what r you talking about

 

[gogbot]

JAGUAR is ageing gracefully,
much like the F-16, its been around for a while.

it still have some decent life in it.

For at least one more decade , we have a 99 reliable strike aircraft , that can also deliver Nuclear payloads.

With the early retirement of the Mig-27 this is especially more valuable.

 

[harrymohan]

SU 34 would be very costly as compared to Jaguars, so replacing it with sheer numbers of SU 34 would be an expensive game!