Indian is worried about PAk-Afghan Intellegence Sharing

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Indian is worried about PAk-Afghan Intellegence Sharing

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[The Great One]

As is most of Afghanistan.

 

[Levina]

And who said that???
A pakistani channel... Lolzz

 

[Sipahi]

Pakistan is currently on something like "Butt Hurt" Mission but it is becoming "Butt buster"

 

[Dubious]

Indian is worried about PAk-Afghan Intellegence Sharing

Nothing new

Another day another roast burnt

 

[Path-Finder]

Hussain Haqqani called India "an imaginary threat" during his lecture, alleging that rhetoric rather than reality is the basis of enmity between the two neighbours.
Husain Haqqani calls for 'decisive shift' on Kashmir - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

yea he speaks for the entire country.
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Well now we know seeing the investment going to waste must be

 

[Indus Falcon]

And who said that???
A pakistani channel... Lolzz

Here is evidence of Indian's going nuts from Indian media:

ISI-Afghan agreement: An undeclared war on India
Written by: Vicky Nanjappa Updated: Wednesday, June 3, 2015

The controversial agreement between Pakistan's ISI and the Afghan Intelligence has worried India. Although the same has been put on the back burner following several voices of dissent in Afghanistan, the idea of preparing such an agreement itself is very questionable. ADVERTISEMENT Portions of the agreement that have been leaked suggest that there is an attempt made to put India in very bad light. If this agreement does see the light of the day then it would mean Afghanistan will put the ISI in very good light. It also would ensure that the intelligene wings of both countries will not deal with hostile nations.

The curious clauses in the Af-Pak agreement: Recently the intelligence agencies of Pakistan and Afghanistan entered into an agreement aimed at improving ties and cooperation. Among the various clauses that are part of the agreement, the one which states that the intelligence agencies of both countries shall not cooperate with hostile nations comes as a surprise to India.

India had built a rapport with Afghanistan and had been indulging in intelligence sharing. A large part of the Afghanistan establishment saw Pakistan as the hostile nation. However now India suspects that some meddling done by the United Kingdom was a result of this agreement being reached. Since Ashraf Ghani took over as the President of Afghanistan, he has titled more towards Pakistan. Moreover Indian officials suspect that he could have been coaxed by the British to go ahead with such an agreement. India however wonders what interest the UK could have in having such an agreement signed between the intelligence agencies of Pakistan and Afghanistan. ISI has already started feeding false information: The Taliban had recently launched its spring offensive. The spring offensive is launched every April by the Taliban and as part of this operation they carry out a spate of attacks. One got to witness a series of attacks that were carried out by the Taliban. However it was the ISI which fed the Afghanistan intelligence with information suggesting that it was India which was behind these attacks. Knowing fully well that the Taliban carries out attacks with the help of the ISI, the Afghan intelligence remained mute. This is largely due to one clause in the agreement that states that the intelligence agencies of Afghanistan and Pakistan shall not criticize each other in public. Moreover the ISI is trying to ensure that for Afghanistan, India becomes the hostile nation. If Afghanistan is to go forward with the agreement with the ISI, then there will be no intelligence sharing with India. For India the intelligence from Afghanistan is very crucial since most of the activities carried out terrorist groups there affects India.

Did UK play a role?
Since the agreement became public, there have been voices of dissent in Afghanistan too. Ashraf Ghani who was supporting this agreement had to backtrack under pressure and keep the agreement at bay. Indian suspects that there was a hand of the United Kingdom in putting together this agreement. India is watching closely these developments. An official in the Intelligence Bureau in India says that it is hard to understand what the UK stands to gain out of this exercise. There is information that this controversial agreement was prepared with the help of the UK.

ISI-Afghan agreement: An undeclared war on India - Oneindia
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India suspects British backing of Pak-Afghan intel cooperation
Indrani Bagchi,TNN | Jun 3, 2015,

NEW DELHI: India suspects British involvement in putting together a controversial agreement between Pakistan's ISI and Afghan intelligence service, NDS. India's annoyance could impact a possible visit to the UK by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, tentatively being planned for the end of the year.

While the MoU itself has not yet been made public, a couple of clauses which have leaked out have added to India's anger. One of them is that each spy service would "refrain" from criticizing the other in public, among other things. More important, they agreed to "refrain" from cooperating with "hostile foreign agencies". For years, that was Afghan description for ISI itself. Post the agreement, the "foreign agencies" said sources, indicate India.

Pakistan, sources said, has already started a steady flow of reports to Afghanistan about alleged Indian "hand" in recent violent incidents, many of which though bearing clear hand of the Taliban, have not been claimed by anybody. This is in addition to a sustained media campaign within Pakistan blaming the Indian agency, RAW, for blasts and killings in the country. Over the past decade, India has built significant ties with Afghanistan's security establishment, which the MoU seeks to actively destroy, Indians believe.

A second inclusion is even more curious - asking Afghanistan to present Pakistan and the ISI in a "favourable" light. Sources here said countries routinely engage in intelligence cooperation with other countries, but they don't involve MoUs, nor do they involve a public relations activity.

If implemented, India fears it would mean that the NDS would have to engage in domestic political activity in the same way the ISI does inside Pakistan. Many in the security establishment here are joining the dots - and coming up with some uncomfortable conclusions that much of this is intended to target India itself.

The question Indians are asking is what does the UK or other "external" forces hope to get out of this exercise? The MoU has created a popular backlash inside Afghanistan forcing President Ashraf Ghani to backtrack after it became public that even the NDS chief had opposed it. It has lowered his standing both inside Pakistan (because he will not be able to deliver on the MoU) and inside his own country. It has also brought his predecessor Hamid Karzai out of a self-imposed silence to become a powerful opposition voice.

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As a damage control, Ghani took recourse to some hardline rhetoric against Pakistan, by accusing it of waging an "undeclared war". "The Taliban have declared their spring offensive, massive terrorist attacks have been carried out," he said in a letter released to the media at an international security conference in Doha. "The public is asking whether there has been any return from President Ghani's efforts to secure enduring peace and cooperation with Pakistan?" the letter states.

While publicly India has maintained a stoic front, New Delhi has privately been very critical of the Afghans for allowing themselves to be conned by Pakistan in this manner. Modi met Karzai, who stopped by New Delhi en route to Beijing for a CICA conference last week, indicating India's continued support for him, and even a silent endorsement of his criticism of Ghani's actions.

India suspects British backing of Pak-Afghan intel cooperation - The Times of India

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NSA Doval finds faults with Pak-Afghan spy agencies' deal
Last Updated: Saturday, May 23, 2015

New Delhi: National Security Advisor Ajit Doval on Friday said that Pakistan's spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) deal with Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security (NDS) was based on wrong assumptions.

"What Pakistan wanted was to take assurance and pressurize Afghanistan that they will not allow their territory to be used for any security related work by India. That is the crux of it. This is based on a faulty assumption that India probably uses Afghan soil or Afghan nationals for its security purposes," Doval told the media here.

The ISI and NDS had earlier signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for 'intelligence sharing and complimentary and coordinated intelligence operations'.

The announcement followed a visit by the Pakistan intelligence chief, Chief of Army Staff and the Prime Minister to Kabul last week.

Talking about a Land Boundary Agreement with Bangladesh, Doval said the two governments have agreed on the conditionalities needed for transfer of people.

"Deliberations have been done on both sides and the revenue officials of the two countries have met and finalised it. Next week, revenue officials are meeting again. As far as transfer of people are concerned, there is an agreed principle between the two countries. I don't think there are any problems about that," said Doval.

"On rehabilitation, if required, people will be rehabilitated if they want to come to India as long as they meet the conditions," he added.
NSA Doval finds faults with Pak-Afghan spy agencies' deal | Zee News
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Hussain Haqqani called India "an imaginary threat" during his lecture, alleging that rhetoric rather than reality is the basis of enmity between the two neighbours.
Husain Haqqani calls for 'decisive shift' on Kashmir - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Whatever minuscule credibility you had on this forum, you just lost it by quoting Hussain Haqqani. Good going, keep it up!

 

[GR!FF!N]

Mohtarma,pehle Deal to final hone do..TRP ka itna zarooraat par gaya kya??

 

[coffee_cup]

Hussain Haqqani called India "an imaginary threat" during his lecture, alleging that rhetoric rather than reality is the basis of enmity between the two neighbours.
Husain Haqqani calls for 'decisive shift' on Kashmir - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

You surely know what the Indian intellectuals such as Arundhti Roy says about the state of affairs in India? And how dangerous it is for the regional and world peace to have an extremist hindu like Modi as a PM.

Should I help you here or you just want to remain selective about what a sell out like Hussain Haqani has to say to keep his job?

 

[Levina]

You surely know what the Indian intellectuals such as Arundhti Roy says about the state of affairs in India? And how dangerous it is for the regional and world peace to have an extremist hindu like Modi as a PM.

Should I help you here or you just want to remain selective about what a sell out like Hussain Haqani has to say to keep his job?

If you thought I hate Arundhati then you're mistaken. Me and her have same POV when it comes to Mr.Gandhi.
And if it was really dangerous to live in Modi's India then she would have fled the country long back.
Use your common sense next time.

Whatever minuscule credibility you had on this forum, you just lost it by quoting Hussain Haqqani. Good going, keep it up!

He was a Pakistani ambassador to US isn't it??
And to me he makes sense.

India is indeed your imaginary enemy, an enemy who has never been offensive.

 

[Hindustani78]

Afghan intel arrests militants who plotted guest house attack
Kabul, Jun 3, 2015 (PTI)
Afghanistan's intelligence agency has arrested a group of Haqqani network militants who plotted terror attack from Pakistan on a popular guest house here last month that killed 14 people, including four Indians.

The arrested militants have confessed that the attack on the Park Palace Guesthouse, frequented by foreigners, was plotted by the Haqqani network commander Qari Abdullah who is based in Peshawar, the capital of Pakistan's Khyber- Pakhtunkhwa province, Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security (NDS) said today.

One of the suspects was identified as Abdul Wakil who was working for an NGO called Madera, the Khaama Press reported, citing the statement.

It added that the other suspect has been identified as Ghulam Aziz who was appointed to carry out a suicide attack.

"NGO worker Abdul Wakil helped Qari Abdullah to plot the attack by preparing a fake USAID ID card for Ghulam Aziz who then visited the Park Palace guest house in Shahr-e-Naw area and prepared a sketch of the guest house for the attack," the statement said.

The attack was finally carried out by another militant identified as Idris who was deployed from Peshawar, it added.

Three gunmen stormed the guest house and started firing on May 13 night. All the attackers were killed in the siege that lasted for about seven hours.

Four Indians, two Pakistanis and an American were among 14 people killed in the attack.
Soon after the attack, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani's special envoy for good governance Ahmad Zia Massoud had said the militants attacked the guest house thinking Indian Ambassador Amar Sinha was present in the compound.

 

[Star Wars]

He was a Pakistani ambassador to US isn't it??
And to me he makes sense.
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PA needs an enemy to stay relevant in that country. There will never be peace.

 

[Star Wars]

Her dusky complexion....and her chola.

Kati !!!

Unfortunately it's the poor and innocent populace which pays price for the fatuous and impetuous decisions taken by the government institutions.

Taken by the Elite and the Generals, the poor stay poor. Its beneficial to them that way.

This is a pretty good book. It applies to both India and Pakistan and kinda tells whats really going on.

 

[I.R.A]

May be may be some of the Afghans a handful of them fell in love with Indians and the dreams India has shown them.

But the real question is does India or do Indians really care about Afghanistan? After all Afghanistan is majority Muslims and I got a chance to read comments on thread here on "Citizenship being offered by India to Hindus of Pakistan" and love for Muslims in hearts of Indian Hindus.

 

[coffee_cup]

If you thought I hate Arundhati then you're mistaken. Me and her have same POV when it comes to Mr.Gandhi.
And if it was really dangerous to live in Modi's India then she would have fled the country long back.
Use your common sense next time.

Thanks for endorsing Arundhati's views that India is a threat to regional and world peace under hindu extremists.

And also about why Kashmir is not part of India.