Indian Brahmos missle crashes in Mian Channo

[Khalil-PTI]

Which Indians ... the keyboard warriors who said they shot down our F16. I am not gonna rebut this as I find this argument to be .. tbh childish.

If I said they fired a missile because they wanted that particular missile to be delivered to Iran and wanted to avoid sanctions would you believe me. Come on !!!

Official sources from GOI have said it was unintentional. I would agree with that as it actually hurts them accepting their incompetence. It does not matter what their keyboard warrior thinks most of them have peanuts for a brain.


Again with the abusive language. Behaving like an illiterate and using abusive language to convey a point doesn't hurt Bajwa (I am sure he doesn't give 1 f. u.ck about your vast & humongous experience in military strategy and single minded opinions) but does represent your mindset and mentality.

I've already reveiced a warning from Admin won't use gainda abusive word again, but sir bajwa has turned out to be a disaster.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Please spare some Samosas (Tejas) for our JF-17

Oh, THOSE samosas are too hot for you to handle!

 

[sal29]

95% Indian beleive that it was a intentional fire, but somehow we have to convince them that your mil incompetency lead this disaster. Do you really think 4th most powerful military would fire a missile by a mistake and will forget to inform its nuclear advresry that it they have bombed us by a mistake? It took 6 mintues missile to land in Pakistan but it took 48 Bharat mata to admit that it was a misfire. No one will buy this argument except those are looking for a face saving

I really don't give a rats *** what 95% Indians believe. I don't bring myself to their level and neither should you. I believe what their decisions maker think and they have explained their intent. All we have to do now is to raise this up on every international forum and let others know how dangerous their incompetency is. We can maybe also highlight rouge element angle which helps us as well.

Do you really think 4th most powerfull ...

Man read some history .... even the most powerful militaries have done that including loosing actual nuclear weapons out of which couple of them are still unaccounted for. So yes incompetent military like the Indians are definitely capable of this.

We don't need to convince the Indian public. Let them stay on their high horse it only helps us, we are not here to compete whose di. c.k is bigger.

Firing a lone stick does not tell anything about our military readiness or deployments so this argument is quite futile and to be honest debunked by many including me here on this forum several times now.

 

[Joe Shearer]

The missile, which came to Pakistan, was of "kachori" type, but without the infilling of minced meat.

I can see you specialise in biryani and are in need of friendly hands to take you through the rest.

You received (unintentionally) a sheekh kabab.

 

[Mav3rick]

No not totally useless. What mayhem would have been caused if all those missiles would have passed through because of non-existent air defense and hit the intended targets there. Riyadh wouldn't be looking any different from Syria right now!

So all those interceptions saved lives, property and relative peace in the country. Israel is another example, which has extensive air defense systems and their casualties were not more than a couple of dozen in recent conflict in Gaza. They intercepted hundreds if not thousands of make-shift rockets fired at them. The mere existence of a tiny state of Israel is due to the effectiveness of their continuously evolving iron dome system. So you can't regard them completely useless especially in low intensity conflicts, they are there to maintain peace and stability of the country.

I do agree to your points. But please also consider scenarios where missiles are Nuclear tipped, even a single missile going through means curtains and it is a possibility in a severe conflict between Nuclear Armed countries. You may also appreciate that the rockets which are fired at Israel are so basic, they are like something which you fire and pray that it hits something. Hundreds of these rockets have landed in Israel going through their Iron Dome systems but were not able to cause significant damage because of their very limited payload and because of lack of precision. Precise rockets with decent payloads would have caused a lot more damage despite Iron Dome and other systems.

 

[sal29]

Territorial integrity of the country takes precedence over fatherly instincts of a Pir, Mureed or a Witch Doctor.

This ain't domestic abuse. This is straight up foreign aggression.

India shall not be given any favors of any doubt. Cynicism comes naturally to an Indian.



What changed from post 1351 when you decided to react with a laugh?

This is dangerous, incompetent and many other things but cannot be considered an act of aggression if the other side accepts its mistake. If proof is found otherwise e.g rouge elements then it is a bit different but still will not be an act of aggression from official GOI.

Acceptance by Indian of this incompetence on government level goes really bad for them internationally but they accepted albeit late to prevent any aggression from Pakistan. We should behave responsibly rather than a close minded tit for tat response.

 

[Khalil-PTI]

I really don't give a rats *** what 95% Indians believe. I don't bring myself to their level and neither should you. I believe what their decisions maker think and they have explained their intent. All we have to do now is to raise this up on every international forum and let others know how dangerous their incompetency is. We can maybe also highlight rouge element angle which helps us as well.


Man read some history .... even the most powerful militaries have done that including loosing actual nuclear weapons out of which couple of them are still unaccounted for. So yes incompetent military like the Indians are definitely capable of this.

We don't need to convince the Indian public. Let them stay on their high horse it only helps us, we are not here to compete whose di. c.k is bigger.

Firing a lone stick does not tell anything about our military readiness or deployments so this argument is quite futile and to be honest debunked by many including me here on this forum several times now.

All can say is You should be awarded with Padma shri. But think for a second why would GOI admit that it was intentional fire ? We are not in war we should have Informed immediately in order to disuse the situation. But they didn't it show their intent. Mark my words intentional community wouldn't take any action, but since GOI knows that we won't retaliate so expect they might give us good face saving.

 

[Rank]

What if it's been done by Pakistan? You would see the following versions from the Indians

- Pakistan kay paas Chinese maaal hai kudhe chal jatay hain
- Pakistan kay paas low-quality weapon shishtum hey
- Pakistani Phoooj incompetent hey
- dekha baap say dargaya isliye hamsay maafi maangi hey
- Pakistan ko ham flaan karsakhtay thay par Pakistan Modi G say darta hey



After observing the majority of Indian reactions (not all again), these idiots don't even know that no one can test an advisory defense system like this. It was fired when IAF top airforce higherups were there in the field at the time of maintenance. Check out the level of unprofessionalism, when their missile malfunction and veered off, they didn't even bother to inform the adversary though PAF monitored and tracked it from the beginning even when it was in the Indian airspace. Every missile has self-destruct capability and can be neutralized once it goes off the coordinates. However, the unprofessional armed forces didn't follow any SOP and rules of business.

Why PAF not intercepted or ignored this thingy can be debatable however so far no country in the world intercepted Supersonic projectile. Also, no country can cover 100% of its territory from the batteries. There are blank spots. . Anyway, the military discussion needs quality of knowledge in the battlespace infosphere. You can't win arguments or convince the highest order of illiterates esp those who awarded their pilots and celebrated so-called victory after got global level humiliation with the following results:

40 CRF + 1 Heli shot-down + 6 Crew killed + 2 fighter jets shot-down + 1 POW + Brigade HQ bombed by the adversary VS ? ZERO

Any sane mind with a bit of sense can understand the consequences and easily speculate the outcome without going into if and buts. It is indeed considered the highest level of incompetency and inability of handling sophisticated weapons. And here the world actually added India into MTCR. May I ask this BS organization aka IAEA, where the **** these guys are now? the projectile wasn't just a random missile, it was a nuclear-capable missile with Mach speed.

Instead of understanding the situation, how dangerous it could be what if Pakistan fired tactical missiles in retaliation? Pakistan has shown the highest level of maturity in both cases (26 Feb and now again).

The history busted them every time. They laughed and made fun after IAF intruded Pakistan's airspace on 26 Feb. Within 24 hours, they got banged by PAF in the broad daylight. Their entire western airspace was at the mercy of PAF. IAF was nowhere in the skies and in btw they shot down their own heli in panic killed 6 of their own crew. And at last, the entire Indian nation, from politicians to celebrities to media end it up begging Pakistan "Please return our pilot please please, you have already humiliated us against our act of aggression". If you have any doubt go and check the social media, news, and their celeb tweets on 26 and 27Fen 2019 both you will see the 90-degree narrative lol

These idiots have not even carefully listened what their own Tri-Chiefs stated on the same day. They were not just admitted what I articulated above but also admitted that PAF targetted IA military installations + included "Pakistan will return their POW pilot under the Geneva Convention rules not any other way" Air Vice Marshal R G K Kapoor.

Another recent example. They laughed on the entire social media when two Pakistani pilots were killed in a heli crash somewhere in the north area and exactly within I guess 24 - 48 hours, their CDS Bipin roasted along with his family. The entire Indian public suddenly changed the stance and emotions ho ha he to ro raa ri crying everywhere, lectured others about morality and respect for dead soldiers..... ye tu haal hey inka....

Thus, you can't argue or debate with such a mindset but a good defense debate and discussion is a cool thingy.

PS: Inko us shit PMLN traitor (hamari opposition party) kay us third-grade minister ke last may statement he mili apnay defence may woh b kaye months baad kyonkay apnay claims ka tu koi evidence tha nahe lol what if we take the explanations, comments and questions raised by their opposition party's head Rahul Gandhi? inke tu pipi nikal jani hey agar ham inke opposition party kay logoon ki statements ko laykar inke maa behan eek karna shru kardain though uska tu evidence b hey lol

 

[El Sidd]

This is dangerous, incompetent and many other things but cannot be considered an act of aggression if the other side accepts its mistake. If proof is found otherwise e.g rouge elements then it is a bit different but still will not be an act of aggression from official GOI.

Acceptance by Indian of this incompetence on government level goes really bad for them internationally but they accepted albeit late to prevent any aggression from Pakistan. We should behave responsibly rather than a close minded tit for tat response.

If a single bullet fired across that border is termed as aggression, a projectile moving at Mach 3 straight towards a strategic military installation when the whole world is on a knife edge of global conflict is child's mistake?

Pakistan reserves all rights to investigate the matter. There is a legal binding which cannot be absolved by anyone's urge to be a better person.

It's not some well kept secret that India has botched all attempts at restructuring her colonial army which is invested by design of pre world war games and darwinian doctrine of clash of civilisation.

 

[sal29]

All can say is You should be awarded with Padma shri. But think for a second why would GOI admit that it was intentional fire ? We are not in war we should have Informed immediately in order to disuse the situation. But they didn't it show their intent. Mark my words intentional community wouldn't take any action, but since GOI knows that we won't retaliate so expect they might give us good face saving.

Why did they admit on 26th Feb. I mean they could have said we unintentionally bombed Balakot our intention was for a training exercise ?

We are not in war we should have informed ...

Yes they should have if they are a competent military. But they are not. It could even be the top brass didn't even knew until ISPR press conference. These are kind of guys who shoot their commanding officers over roti what do expect from them ?

By no means I am diluting the gravity of the situation but saying we should fire few missiles their way is reckless and very childish response to something where more than 1 billion lives are at stake. The best course of action here is to press them hard internationally about their incompetence and not take kinetic action.

All can say is you should be awarded with Padma shri

I suggest you counter the argument with facts and reasoning. Writing sarcastic flattery is far from it and it certainly does not help your argument in any way whatsoever.

 

[SIPRA]

What if it was done by Pakistan? You would see the following versions from the Indians

• Pakistan kay paas Chinese maaal hai kudhe chal jatay hain
• Pakistan kay paas low-quality weapon shishtum hey
• Pakistani Phoooj incompetent hey
• dekha baap say dargaya isliye hamsay maafi maangi hey
• Pakistan ko ham flaan karsakhtay thay par Pakistan Modi G say darta hey

India is fundamentally a nation of jokers and shall be treated as such.

 

[sal29]

If a single bullet fired across that border is termed as aggression, a projectile moving at Mach 3 straight towards a strategic military installation when the whole world is on a knife edge of global conflict is child's mistake?

Pakistan reserves all rights to investigate the matter. There is a legal binding which cannot be absolved by anyone's urge to be a better person.

It's not some well kept secret that India has botched all attempts at restructuring her colonial army which is invested by design of pre world war games and darwinian doctrine of clash of civilisation.

For aggression there needs to be intent which they have said officially there was none.

I agree 100% that Pakistan reserves the right to investigate further. Not sure about legal bindings I doubt there will be any joint investigation.

 

[TheSolution]

Do you


Bro do you really think international community give a damn about Pakistan's concerns? Why we are beggining international community to take some actions, deep down we all know nothing will happen. Had it been India they would have retaliated 1st. We are begging international community for the sake of face saving.
Literally UAE had shown more courage during the hauthi missile fiasco than us. Are we really a nuclear State?

It builds a public narrative, even if they don't completely care about what we have to say.

Plus even if they don't care about our concerns, if we retaliate with force, they can easily twist it to make India seem like the victim after a "malfunction" during a missile test.

Rest assured, had this been openly claimed as an intentional strike, or even any significant damage done, we would have seen a full scope retaliation.

I mean some (somewhat credible) people here have already stated that Pakistan was preparing for retaliation during the aftermath already.

But it's not the right step to take after they are claiming innocence, we must act accordingly and appropriately.

 

[SIPRA]

I agree 100% that Pakistan reserves the right to investigate further. Not sure about legal bindings I doubt there will be any joint investigation.

India wouldn't agree to any joint investigation. They will do their own, which Pakistan may accept or reject, once pronounced.

 

[TheSolution]

95% Indian beleive that it was a intentional fire, but somehow we have to convince them that your mil incompetency lead this disaster. Do you really think 4th most powerful military would fire a missile by a mistake and will forget to inform its nuclear advresry that it they have bombed us by a mistake? It took 6 mintues missile to land in Pakistan but it took 48 Bharat mata to admit that it was a misfire. No one will buy this argument except those are looking for a face saving

Ignore what the Indians believe, majority of them are Andh Bhakts suffering from brain rot. They would do anything to deflect from their incompetency.

And you're also correct, it's entirely possible it was intentional, but don't rule out a genuine malfunction, Indians have shown their incompetency numerous times before.