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Indian artillery roles reflect a shift in doctrine. Pravin Sawhney
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India's military planners are at the centre of a major doctrinal
shift that has been influenced by the possible nuclear capabilities
of India and Pakistan and the imminent introduction of ballistic
missiles into the Indian artillery.

The ability to inflict attrition has now assumed a greater
importance than manoeuvre in the Indian Army's doctrinal thinking.
Instead of seeking deep thrusts with mechanised forces, senior
officers are developing a doctrine which combines maximum attrition
of enemy forces, limited manoeuvre and attacks on strategic and
operational targets. As firepower is central to attrition, there is
a growing dependence on artillery.

ln operational terms the role of the artillery is being redefined
from a combat support arm to a combat arm. The artillery has
traditionally been employed to support infantry and armoured forces.
India's artillery will now have a more balanced policy between
direct support and counter-bombardment and will be employed on
independent operational taskings. Artillery can easily be switched
between a general support role and close support of the tactical
battle.

This has spurred the introduction of "strike complexes". This is a
Soviet Russian Army concept that was put to good use by the US Army
and other coalition forces during the 1990-91 Gulf War. Fire
planning is done on the basis of four to six artillery brigades. To
bring this concept on-line the Indian Army's first artillery
division will become operational in December.

Given the evolution of the artillery within the army's operational
thinking it was decided that the Regiment of Artillery, the umbrella
organisation to which all operational artillery regiments belonged,
was becoming unmanageable and no longer necessary. Its units have
been divided between the Field Artillery; the Corps of Air Defence
Artillery (CADA) formed in January 1994; and the Army Aviation Corps
(AAC), formed in November 1993. The Field Artillery with about 190
regiments retains the largest chunk of the distributed assets, but
no longer accounts for one-sixth of the 1.2 million-strong army.
In addition to its new role, the organisation and employment of
artillery has been influenced by four other considerations:

- The changes in potential targets in Pakistan as linear defences
and supporting field works along the border with India are heavily
reinforced with concrete fortifications. A successful engagement of
hardened defences is possible only with heavier calibre shells with
high terminal velocities.

- The expansion of mechanised forces within the armies of India and
Pakistan has underscored the need for larger calibre artillery
systems and higher rates of fire.

- A determination to reduce the logistics complexities of operating
guns of 14 different calibres through a programme of rationalisation.

- The development of better roads and tracks in India's mountains
means that many mountain guns can be dispensed with although some
systems which can be transported by pack animals will be retained.

The guiding philosophy of the Field Artillery is to standardise the
calibre of weapons in service and to seek ammunition compatibility
with guns of the same calibre but from different countries of
origin.

The Field Artillery has in service:

- One regiment each of 7.2 in and 5.5 in guns for general support;
both weapons are expected to be taken out of service by 1998.

- The Bofors 155 mm FH-77B howitzer is used for general support and
counter-bombardment. This weapon is also deployed in the mountains
with six howitzers in Siachen and an 18-weapon regiment in both
Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh. A total of 410 FH-77s against a
projected requirement of over 2,000 were procured in 1986. The
programme came into disrepute because of alleged bribes to
politicians.

- The towed 130 mm M-46 field gun and the 130 mm Catapult
self-propelled gun (which equips only one regiment) are used for
close support and general support and for counter battery fire.
India procured about 400 Russian M-46s between 1992-95 for around
Rs100,000 ($2,800) apiece. The Field Artillery now has 720 M-46s in
36 regiments and plans to have 60 regiments equipped by 2000.

- The 122 mm D-30 towed howitzer is used for close support by
regiments deployed on India's plains.

- Many regiments now equipped with the 105 mm Indian Field Gun are
earmarked to convert to the M-46.

- The 105 mm Light Field Gun equips regiments deployed in the
mountains. - The last regiment of 105 mm Abbot self-propelled guns
will soon be phased out.

- The 75 mm Pack Gun-Howitzer is used to provide close support in
mountainous regions. While the splinter effect of its shells is
greater than the 25 pounder gun its effect on defensive positions is
unsatisfactory.

- The 160 mm M58 Tampella heavy mortar is now only used by one
regiment and is expected to be phased out by next year. The Field
Artillery is also equipped with the 120 mm AM-50 Brand smoothbore
which can be used to a range of 9,000 m with PEPA/LP extended range
ammunition.

Under the Field Artillery's rationalisation plan towed artillery
will be based primarily on the 130 mm M46, the 155 mm FH-77B and a
select number of M46s upgraded to 155 mm calibre. Three contenders
are offering to undertake upgrades: India's own Defence Research and
Development Organisation (DRDO); Soltam of Israel; and the Russians
who have offered to supply 152 mm systems upgraded to 155 mm. Senior
Field Artillery officers prefer the Israeli offer, while the
government also wants to look at Russian systems. The Israeli
modification has been tested. The modification kit, which can be
fitted at the army's base workshops, has a semi-automatic breech and
no change in the M46's recoil system is required. With extended
range ammunition the modified system has a range of 39 km. Moreover,
with a different range and elevation table, the modified weapon can
fire the same ammunition as the Bofors FH-77B.

Divisional artillery deployed on India's plains is expected to have
a mix of 130 mm and 155 mm systems. This could be a combination of
three 130 mm regiments and one regiment of 155 mm guns or two
regiments of each calibre, depending both on threat perceptions and
whether the division is intended to be employed for offensive or
defensive operations. The 105 mm Light Field Gun, which is of
limited effectiveness in offensive operations or against concrete
bunkers, will continue to be employed in the mountains.

With the phasing out of the 105 mm Abbot and the 130 mm Catapult the
Field Artillery requires a new self- propelled system. Last year
four systems were tested on Indian-made T-72 MBT chassis. The
systems were: the French Giat Industries 155 mm/40 cal GCT turret;
the Slovakian ZTS 155 mm/45 cal Zuzana turret; the South African LIW
155 mm/52 cal T6 turret and the UK VSEL 155 mm AS90 turret with both
39 and 52 cal ordnance. It now appears the army favours purchasing
six to nine regiments of Russian 152 mm self-propelled systems with
an option for upgrading them to 155 mm calibre. Although this means
introducing yet another calibre when standard- isation is being
sought the army appreciates that the government's support for the
programme has been weakened because of budget constraints and is
anxious for a cheap solution.

There is complete ammunition compatibility for the army's 105 mm
systems. Local production of 105 mm HESH and a 130 mm anti-tank
round is underway. Production has also begun of 155 mm HE
ammunition. Attention is focused on producing extended range 155 mm
ammunition and carrier shells. The main problem is expected in the
manufacture of fuzes for 155 mm ammunition. However, indigenous
electronic time fuzes for the 75 mm, 105 mm and 130 mm shell have
been produced.

The Soviet-designed 122 mm BM-21 Grad is the only multiple rocket
launcher (MRL) used by the Field Artillery. With a range of 20.4 km
it is used for general support and counter battery missions. The
Indian Defence Research and Development Organisation has developed
the 212 mm 12 barrel Pinaka MRL with a range of 40 km. The system is
in an advanced stage of user trials and is expected to enter service
next year. Ammunition for the Grad is produced in India and a 100 kg
warhead has been produced for the Pinaka's 212 mm rocket.
Development of an HE fragmentation warhead and a cluster submunition
is underway.

The Field Artillery's longest range weapon is the Prithvi SS-150
surface-to-surface missile which is to equip the newly formed 333
Missile Group stationed at Secunderabad. The missile has a range of
150 km with a 1,000 kg payload.

Among specialised equipment for the Field Artillery's new role, top
priority is procurement of unmanned air vehicles (UAVs), a few of
which are being purchased from Israel. The UAV command posts will be
co-located with the divisional and/or corps counter-bombardment
command posts. As the procurement of artillery locating radars is
not a high priority with the government, the Field Artillery is
seeking better means for target analysis and standardisation of maps
and computer-based C{2} systems.

* Pravin Sawhney is a visiting Fellow at the Royal United Services
Institute, London.
 
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Army sets out to seek 140 ultra-light Howitzer guns

January 14, 2008 18:33 IST

Setting in motion the delayed Rs 10,000 crore artillery modernisation programme, the Army on Monday invited proposals for procurement of 140 ultra-light Howitzer guns.

This was announced by Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor during an interaction with the media on the eve of the 60th Army Day.

"As I am interacting with you right now, the RFP (Request for proposal) for procurement of the Ultra-Light Howitzer guns has been issued," Gen Kapoor said, while admitting delays in the modernisation of the artillery programme.

There has been no fresh induction of artillery guns since the infamous Rs 1,437-crore Bofors deal, under which 410 155mm 39-calibre field Howitzers were bought in 1986.

Now taking the issue at a war footing, the Army plans to issue fresh global tenders for procurement of the 155mm 52-calibre guns 'shortly' and for 155 advanced gun in 'a month or so,' the army chief said.

Armies in some of the developed countries have been giving preference to the ultra-light Howitzers since it can be transported to battle-zone by air, much faster than the conventional heavy artillery guns.

In 2001, India floated a global tender for acquisition of 400 towed 155mm 52-calibre artillery guns, valued upwards of $1.5 billion. This process was to be followed by licensed production in India.

But earlier this year, it was scrapped after an unprecedented four rounds of trials -- 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2006 -- during which the Bofors gun (now owned by BAe Systems) performed better than the guns of Israeli firm Soltam and the now-blacklisted South African Denel company.

While the arms market was full of speculation that the UPA government developed cold feet due to the Bofors name associated with the BAe Systems, the Army maintained that none of the guns could meet all the laid-down general staff qualitative requirements.

To a question as to whether the Army had accepted or rejected the anti-aircraft Akash Missile, Gen Kapoor said the army has not attended any trial of the missile system so far.

"We have certain requirements and aspects. We would like them to be met before we take any decision," the Army Chief said.

Referring to land attack super-sonic cruise missile BrahMos, multi-barrel rocket system Pinaka and Russian-made Smerch's induction into the army, Gen Kapoor said that everything was going as per schedule.

"As far as Smerch was concerned, some of the system had been inducted from Russia [Images] while other was in the pipeline and would be coming soon," he said.

To a question about the T-90 tanks, Gen Kapoor said the government had in principle agreed for induction of 347 more such tanks in the Army and the process would be completed soon.

When asked about the delay in Transfer of Technology from Russia on T-90 tanks which was pushing the deadline of its indigenous production, Gen Kapoor said ToT is a 'complex process.'

Sometimes, the transferor of technology is not able to put it clearly and sometimes the receiver of technology does not understand it properly.

"The process of ToT has been delayed but it will happen and will be completed," Gen Kapoor added.

Army sets out to seek 140 Howitzer guns
 
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I read your article fatman17, its a verry old article i think. Please post the link and dates.
 
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Rs 12k-cr artillery boost for Army?


NEW DELHI: In what will cost a whopping Rs 12,000 crore, the Army's plans to acquire high-volume artillery firepower as well as modernise its elite special forces for "irregular warfare" are finally gathering steam now after years of excruciating delay.

If you add Army's proposal to acquire 197 light helicopters for around Rs 4,000 crore to this, coupled with several Navy and IAF procurements in the pipeline, including the mammoth Rs 42,000-crore project for 126 multi-role fighters, it's no wonder that countries like US, UK, France, Israel and Russia are falling over each other to grab a piece of the action.

India, after all, plans to spend around Rs 120,000 crore ($30 billion) in importing military hardware and software over the next five years, and in doing so will continue to be one of the biggest arms importer in the world.

General Deepak Kapoor on Monday declared that while the global tender for ultra-light howitzers was being floated "right now", the ones for 155mm 52-calibre towed and wheeled self-propelled artillery guns would follow "soon" after.

As for the derailed modernisation of the seven Para-SF (Special Forces) and three Para-SF (airborne) battalions, tasked with conducting clandestine operations deep behind enemy lines, Gen Kapoor said, "It has come on track now. The Cabinet Committee on Security cleared it just a week to 10 days ago."

Though Gen Kapoor did not get into specifics, sources said the Army was going in for 140 ultra-light howitzers for around Rs 2,900 crore, 400 towed guns for Rs 4,000 crore and 180 wheeled self-propelled guns for Rs 4,700 crore.

Similarly, the list of around 40 specialised weapons and other equipment for the special forces — including TAR-21 Tavor assault rifles and M4A1 carbines, all-terrain multi-utility vehicles and GPS navigation systems, laser range-finders and combat free-fall parachutes — are being sourced from countries like US, Israel, France and Sweden under an initial Rs 700-crore plan.

Rs 12k-cr artillery boost for Army?-India-The Times of India
 
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BAE joins race to clinch $2.5bn India artillery deal

* Rival firms to exhibit their guns at annual arms fair in Delhi today​

NEW DELHI: British defence group BAE Systems has joined the race to win part of a 2.5-billion-dollar artillery shopping spree by the Indian military, defence officials in New Delhi said Friday.

India last month invited proposals from global arms manufacturers for the purchase of 140 ultra-light artillery guns. BAE Systems joins a field including firms from Russia - India’s main defence supplier - and Soltam Systems of Israel, a country which last year moved up to become the second biggest arms supplier to New Delhi. “It’s going to be a close thing,” a senior defence ministry official said. New Delhi is also expected to open a separate tender for 155 heavy guns by the end of March, Indian defence sources said.

Arms fair: Rival firms will be showing off their guns at DefExpo, an annual arms fair which starts in New Delhi today. The tenders are part of India’s plans to spend 30 billion dollars by 2012 to modernise a military currently mainly armed with vintage, Soviet-era weaponry. Indian security officials have also been discussing buying Israeli anti-aircraft missiles, as well as a contract to upgrade a fleet of Russian-built MiG-29 fighters.

A source from the office of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh confirmed the two projects were raised in talks late Thursday, and said the deals - with a combined value of 1.13 billion dollars - had been approved. India in 2001 floated global tenders for 400 guns, but scrapped the contract last year after testing hardware sent by Israeli, British and South African firms vying for the deal.

South Africa’s state-owned Denel armament firm was later blacklisted by India on charges of corruption in a separate arms deal. The Indian army has not bought artillery since 1986 when the purchase of 410 howitzer guns for 1.23 billion dollars from then-Swedish firm Bofors sparked allegations that politicians took bribes to clinch the deal. The scandal contributed to the collapse of the government of then-prime minister Rajiv Gandhi in 1989.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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do the indians actually make anythikng?

Oh yeah, Babies. Lots of Babies.

India has been putting off purchasing big guns for quite a while now.
Hopefully this time they will get their act together before its too late.
 
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Its definately a very good gun system and the US Army is also adopting it. A hallmark of good old British Engineering.

Regards
 
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do the indians actually make anythikng?

The only indegenous artillery is the Pinaka, and ofcourse, and prithvi serires ballistic missiles, if u count them as artillery
 
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The only indegenous artillery is the Pinaka, and ofcourse, and prithvi serires ballistic missiles, if u count them as artillery

Su-47, DRDO has already produced the Indian Field Gun, a 105 mm field gun was developed for the Indian Army and is in production at the Ordnance Factory Board which has a range of 17 km and another thing is that it is light and it can also be hellilifted. Just problem is that there is not a specific name was being earmarked to this gun like we have Arjun, Pinaka, Dhurv to the DRDO's product. And hence field gun developed by DRDO is only known with the name of Indian Field Gun or Light field Gun.
 
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do the indians actually make anythikng?

Well mate, we have homegrown 105 mm field gun, as well as in the development we have Bhim which is Towaed Artillary on Arjun Chasis.

Still we have huge C3I network develop by DRDO which connect all artillary on the battlefield for better coordination as well as it has master in the production of several ammunition for its field gun such as Bofors.
 
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thanx, then why buy these from bae?
The artillery units put out so far by India's Ordinance Factory Board (OFB) and DRDO are either outdated reverse engineered hybrids of vintage European and soviet systems or units produced under manufacturing license. The Indian army's front line howitzer for over the past 20 years has been the FH77 155mm Bofors system (which are now being upgraded in a indo-swedish JV).

However, the kind of howitzer and light guns that the Indian army wants now are far more sophisticated than anything the DRDO or OFB has ever produced under license or reverse engineered. Hence, the only options are to either buy them from an established artillery manufacturer (like BAe, Soltam etc) or invest hundreds of millions and oodles of time to start R&D from scratch. Obviously the first option seems to have won out.

My guess is that only one vendor will be selected to provide both systems. BAe has entered their Archer system into the 155mm heavy gun competition.
 
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